What Are You Doing Right Now

scottalanmiller

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

So you're a 8-5 shop.. not open outside those hours - if a restaurant has a problem at 7PM, they're just screwed until the next day?

that's where the On-call comes in.

Sounds like a solution right there.

Explain?

Take call on your days that you have to leave.

Yeah, cover the hours that others don't cover.

WrCombs

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

So you're a 8-5 shop.. not open outside those hours - if a restaurant has a problem at 7PM, they're just screwed until the next day?

that's where the On-call comes in.

Sounds like a solution right there.

Explain?

Take call on your days that you have to leave.

Then we wouldn't have an on call rotation -
I.e I would be on call every other week bascially and still still have to do my on call rotation.

Dashrender

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

So you're a 8-5 shop.. not open outside those hours - if a restaurant has a problem at 7PM, they're just screwed until the next day?

that's where the On-call comes in.

Sounds like a solution right there.

Explain?

Take call on your days that you have to leave.

Then we wouldn't have an on call rotation -
I.e I would be on call every other week bascially and still still have to do my on call rotation.

seriously - did you read what you just wrote?

No - you propose to be oncall on your early weeks, and everyone else splits the other week - at least until you get different child care.

are you salary? if you are, you are likely getting screwed.

WrCombs

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

So you're a 8-5 shop.. not open outside those hours - if a restaurant has a problem at 7PM, they're just screwed until the next day?

that's where the On-call comes in.

Sounds like a solution right there.

Explain?

Take call on your days that you have to leave.

Then we wouldn't have an on call rotation -
I.e I would be on call every other week bascially and still still have to do my on call rotation.

seriously - did you read what you just wrote?

No - you propose to be oncall on your early weeks, and everyone else splits the other week - at least until you get different child care.

are you salary? if you are, you are likely getting screwed.

Yep sure did- thanks for checking though.

Hourly employee - you ask me that every time we talk about my job.

Dashrender

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

So you're a 8-5 shop.. not open outside those hours - if a restaurant has a problem at 7PM, they're just screwed until the next day?

that's where the On-call comes in.

Sounds like a solution right there.

Explain?

Take call on your days that you have to leave.

Then we wouldn't have an on call rotation -
I.e I would be on call every other week bascially and still still have to do my on call rotation.

seriously - did you read what you just wrote?

No - you propose to be oncall on your early weeks, and everyone else splits the other week - at least until you get different child care.

are you salary? if you are, you are likely getting screwed.

Yep sure did- thanks for checking though.

Hourly employee - you ask me that every time we talk about my job.

yet you don't punch a clock - uh, what?

I guess JB doesn't punch one either... Though I don't know how much time he bills direct to his company versus billing to clients...

WrCombs

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

So you're a 8-5 shop.. not open outside those hours - if a restaurant has a problem at 7PM, they're just screwed until the next day?

that's where the On-call comes in.

Sounds like a solution right there.

Explain?

Take call on your days that you have to leave.

Then we wouldn't have an on call rotation -
I.e I would be on call every other week bascially and still still have to do my on call rotation.

seriously - did you read what you just wrote?

No - you propose to be oncall on your early weeks, and everyone else splits the other week - at least until you get different child care.

are you salary? if you are, you are likely getting screwed.

Yep sure did- thanks for checking though.

Hourly employee - you ask me that every time we talk about my job.

yet you don't punch a clock - uh, what?

I guess JB doesn't punch one either... Though I don't know how much time he bills direct to his company versus billing to clients...

I fill out a time sheet - But no clocking in or out is not a thing.

Dashrender

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

So you're a 8-5 shop.. not open outside those hours - if a restaurant has a problem at 7PM, they're just screwed until the next day?

that's where the On-call comes in.

Sounds like a solution right there.

Explain?

Take call on your days that you have to leave.

Then we wouldn't have an on call rotation -
I.e I would be on call every other week bascially and still still have to do my on call rotation.

seriously - did you read what you just wrote?

No - you propose to be oncall on your early weeks, and everyone else splits the other week - at least until you get different child care.

are you salary? if you are, you are likely getting screwed.

Yep sure did- thanks for checking though.

Hourly employee - you ask me that every time we talk about my job.

yet you don't punch a clock - uh, what?

I guess JB doesn't punch one either... Though I don't know how much time he bills direct to his company versus billing to clients...

I fill out a time sheet - But no clocking in or out is not a thing.

so they trust that, but not your ability to work from home.. /sigh.

WrCombs

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

So you're a 8-5 shop.. not open outside those hours - if a restaurant has a problem at 7PM, they're just screwed until the next day?

that's where the On-call comes in.

Sounds like a solution right there.

Explain?

Take call on your days that you have to leave.

Then we wouldn't have an on call rotation -
I.e I would be on call every other week bascially and still still have to do my on call rotation.

seriously - did you read what you just wrote?

No - you propose to be oncall on your early weeks, and everyone else splits the other week - at least until you get different child care.

are you salary? if you are, you are likely getting screwed.

Yep sure did- thanks for checking though.

Hourly employee - you ask me that every time we talk about my job.

yet you don't punch a clock - uh, what?

I guess JB doesn't punch one either... Though I don't know how much time he bills direct to his company versus billing to clients...

I fill out a time sheet - But no clocking in or out is not a thing.

so they trust that, but not your ability to work from home.. /sigh.

They never gave me an answer on working from home on those days.

Where did you get that they don't trust me to work from home?

I've worked from home in the past..

Dashrender

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

So you're a 8-5 shop.. not open outside those hours - if a restaurant has a problem at 7PM, they're just screwed until the next day?

that's where the On-call comes in.

Sounds like a solution right there.

Explain?

Take call on your days that you have to leave.

Then we wouldn't have an on call rotation -
I.e I would be on call every other week bascially and still still have to do my on call rotation.

seriously - did you read what you just wrote?

No - you propose to be oncall on your early weeks, and everyone else splits the other week - at least until you get different child care.

are you salary? if you are, you are likely getting screwed.

Yep sure did- thanks for checking though.

Hourly employee - you ask me that every time we talk about my job.

yet you don't punch a clock - uh, what?

I guess JB doesn't punch one either... Though I don't know how much time he bills direct to his company versus billing to clients...

I fill out a time sheet - But no clocking in or out is not a thing.

so they trust that, but not your ability to work from home.. /sigh.

They never gave me an answer on working from home on those days.

Where did you get that they don't trust me to work from home?

I've worked from home in the past..

really I don't see a reason for you to be in the office at all.

get the whole company on a live chat service - tons to choose from, some free some cost.. and get a phone system that allows you to have phones anywhere, have a phone at home - and a client for the phone system on your cell - done. Life is easy.
at least it should be.

WrCombs

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

So you're a 8-5 shop.. not open outside those hours - if a restaurant has a problem at 7PM, they're just screwed until the next day?

that's where the On-call comes in.

Sounds like a solution right there.

Explain?

Take call on your days that you have to leave.

Then we wouldn't have an on call rotation -
I.e I would be on call every other week bascially and still still have to do my on call rotation.

seriously - did you read what you just wrote?

No - you propose to be oncall on your early weeks, and everyone else splits the other week - at least until you get different child care.

are you salary? if you are, you are likely getting screwed.

Yep sure did- thanks for checking though.

Hourly employee - you ask me that every time we talk about my job.

yet you don't punch a clock - uh, what?

I guess JB doesn't punch one either... Though I don't know how much time he bills direct to his company versus billing to clients...

I fill out a time sheet - But no clocking in or out is not a thing.

so they trust that, but not your ability to work from home.. /sigh.

They never gave me an answer on working from home on those days.

Where did you get that they don't trust me to work from home?

I've worked from home in the past..

really I don't see a reason for you to be in the office at all.

get the whole company on a live chat service - tons to choose from, some free some cost.. and get a phone system that allows you to have phones anywhere, have a phone at home - and a client for the phone system on your cell - done. Life is easy.
at least it should be.

I don't either, During my interview I even brought Soft Phone that we could use to dial into the PBX and use our extension rather than Using our own cell phone, Didnt go anywhere .
The more I think about it, The love for the work does not out weigh the ridiculous procedures - I get that.
But for the time being, This is what I am doing , It is my Job/career at this time and I'm going to make the most out of it,because This is the only "Real Experience" I have that can be put into a resume.

scottalanmiller

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

really I don't see a reason for you to be in the office at all.

Generally there isn't. Probably nothing more than management that enjoys the feeling of power they get from controlling peoples' lives and not liking their employees very much.

As an employer, I can tell you, it takes a lot of dislike for people for me to want to spend money to screw with their lives just to make them suffer. They are happier and more productive at home, and cost less.

scottalanmiller

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

The more I think about it, The love for the work does not out weigh the ridiculous procedures - I get that.

It might, if the money also made up for it, advancement, or other factors. But you are early on in your career, have a child, and this job is putting your career at risk. That, I think, is the real factor we are all worried about, even if we don't always vocalize it well.

JaredBusch

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

a customer failed their trust-wave PCI test - literally because "PC could not be found"

LOL, quality PCI test there.

Typical actually. If the PCI scan cannot get a ping response from the IP, they fail it assuming you lied about the IP.

I have a firewall group setup to allow ping responses form the PCI scan netwokr specifically because of this.

set firewall group address-group Trustwave_Scanner address 64.37.231.0/24
set firewall group address-group Trustwave_Scanner address 111.108.90.138-111.108.90.139
set firewall group address-group Trustwave_Scanner address 124.211.46.74-124.211.46.75
set firewall group address-group Trustwave_Scanner address 204.225.91.58-204.225.91.59
set firewall group address-group Trustwave_Scanner address 209.90.139.122-209.90.139.123
set firewall group address-group Trustwave_Scanner address 220.101.105.8-220.101.105.9
set firewall group address-group Trustwave_Scanner address 220.101.107.8-220.101.107.9
set firewall group address-group Trustwave_Scanner description 'Trustwave PCI Scanner Addresses

On one network where I have NAT setup for a specific network, I only allow in ICMP, which is not blocked by the general firewall rules.

set service nat rule 3 inbound-interface eth0
set service nat rule 3 inside-address address 10.202.8.1
set service nat rule 3 log disable
set service nat rule 3 protocol icmp
set service nat rule 3 source group address-group Trustwave_Scanner
set service nat rule 3 type destination

On another network with no extra NAT I kill everything from the PCI scanner after allowing ICMP

set firewall name WAN_LOCAL rule 20 action accept
set firewall name WAN_LOCAL rule 20 description 'Allow ICMP'
set firewall name WAN_LOCAL rule 20 log disable
set firewall name WAN_LOCAL rule 20 protocol icmp
set firewall name WAN_LOCAL rule 30 action drop
set firewall name WAN_LOCAL rule 30 description 'Block Trustwave'
set firewall name WAN_LOCAL rule 30 log disable
set firewall name WAN_LOCAL rule 30 protocol all
set firewall name WAN_LOCAL rule 30 source group address-group Trustwave_Scanner

Dashrender

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

They are happier and more productive at home,

Proving this point can be harder for some.

JaredBusch

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

They are happier and more productive at home,

Proving this point can be harder for some.

This is also not a given. Many people cannot be more productive at home. They do not have the self discipline

WrCombs

@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

They are happier and more productive at home,

Proving this point can be harder for some.

This is also not a given. Many people cannot be more productive at home. They do not have the self discipline

Which may be where the issue is coming from - They've tried it in the past.

scottalanmiller

With the weather in Utah sending loads of people home early for the day, we are talking the chance to do some massive maintenance very impromptu. Going to be a very chill "routine work" kind of night with @valentina

scottalanmiller

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

They are happier and more productive at home,

Proving this point can be harder for some.

For those that don't believe in...

Gathering their own metrics and doing their own homework.
Using industry data
Common sense

scottalanmiller

@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

They are happier and more productive at home,

Proving this point can be harder for some.

This is also not a given. Many people cannot be more productive at home. They do not have the self discipline

Not a given on an individual basis. But on average, it is a given.

It's also misleading because they often find certain people to not be productive at home, but ignore that the same people were often not productive in the office, either.

scottalanmiller

Phone support positions are especially good for sending people home, because answering a phone is answering a phone.