What Are You Doing Right Now
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I am so confused.
@Dashrender can you produce a link that says that SQL is limited to 10 connections when hosted from windows 10? It sounds like you are claiming this, and I don't believe it.
It's in the EULA and is both a technical limit as well as a licensing limit. Also, SQL hosted from Windows 10 has other license issues if used like a server beyond the hard limits.
@Donahue - do you still need a link to the EULA or are a few others agreeing with me enough? serious here, not trying to be a dick.
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
downloaded and installed Wiztree on clients computer, Clicked scan and it's just sitting here..
@JaredBusch @DustinB3403 What should i expect to see here?It'll progress and show you every file and folder on the system. Assuming you scanned the "C:" partition. Or wherever your looking to free up space.
Trying to scan
Partition, But it's only letting me scan folder by folder which I dont have time to do.Run the app as a local admin.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
downloaded and installed Wiztree on clients computer, Clicked scan and it's just sitting here..
@JaredBusch @DustinB3403 What should i expect to see here?It'll progress and show you every file and folder on the system. Assuming you scanned the "C:" partition. Or wherever your looking to free up space.
Trying to scan
Partition, But it's only letting me scan folder by folder which I don't have time to do.Run the app as a local admin.
I did that to begin with.
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@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
It doesnt mention database connections, but it would logically fit here.
Correct, it is any connection.
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
downloaded and installed Wiztree on clients computer, Clicked scan and it's just sitting here..
@JaredBusch @DustinB3403 What should i expect to see here?It'll progress and show you every file and folder on the system. Assuming you scanned the "C:" partition. Or wherever your looking to free up space.
Trying to scan
Partition, But it's only letting me scan folder by folder which I don't have time to do.Run the app as a local admin.
I did that to begin with.
you have zero free space on the drive you are scanning? If thats true - try running Wiztree from a USB.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I am so confused.
@Dashrender can you produce a link that says that SQL is limited to 10 connections when hosted from windows 10? It sounds like you are claiming this, and I don't believe it.
It's in the EULA and is both a technical limit as well as a licensing limit. Also, SQL hosted from Windows 10 has other license issues if used like a server beyond the hard limits.
@Donahue - do you still need a link to the EULA or are a few others agreeing with me enough? serious here, not trying to be a dick.
see my post above yours
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
downloaded and installed Wiztree on clients computer, Clicked scan and it's just sitting here..
@JaredBusch @DustinB3403 What should i expect to see here?It'll progress and show you every file and folder on the system. Assuming you scanned the "C:" partition. Or wherever your looking to free up space.
Trying to scan
Partition, But it's only letting me scan folder by folder which I don't have time to do.Run the app as a local admin.
I did that to begin with.
you have zero free space on the drive you are scanning? If thats true - try running Wiztree from a USB.
that is correct ,I dont have the ability to go on site today - Was hoping to help them out remotely.
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@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I am so confused.
@Dashrender can you produce a link that says that SQL is limited to 10 connections when hosted from windows 10? It sounds like you are claiming this, and I don't believe it.
It's in the EULA and is both a technical limit as well as a licensing limit. Also, SQL hosted from Windows 10 has other license issues if used like a server beyond the hard limits.
can you guys explain more? I am unfamiliar with what you guys are trying to tell me. @scottalanmiller which EULA, windows 10 or SQL?
In the End User Licence Agreement, exist a clause that says you won't use a Microsoft Desktop platform to provide hosted services to more than X people.
(more or less)
And that you must purchase Microsoft Server and CALs if you need to host services above the stated limit.
Found it. From here, section 2.d.(iii)
2.c. is more important. That's the part that forbids SQL Server completely, even with just one connection. The 10 connection limit is only for allowed services. Since SQL is forbidden, that is the overriding factor.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
It doesnt mention database connections, but it would logically fit here.
Correct, it is any connection.
Agreed - connections - they enumerate several - but the gist is that you can't have more than 20 different connections from outside the computer connecting to it - because it's meant as an enduser device, not a server - you want unlimited connections - buy server for $800, plus CALs.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I am so confused.
@Dashrender can you produce a link that says that SQL is limited to 10 connections when hosted from windows 10? It sounds like you are claiming this, and I don't believe it.
It's in the EULA and is both a technical limit as well as a licensing limit. Also, SQL hosted from Windows 10 has other license issues if used like a server beyond the hard limits.
can you guys explain more? I am unfamiliar with what you guys are trying to tell me. @scottalanmiller which EULA, windows 10 or SQL?
In the End User Licence Agreement, exist a clause that says you won't use a Microsoft Desktop platform to provide hosted services to more than X people.
(more or less)
And that you must purchase Microsoft Server and CALs if you need to host services above the stated limit.
Found it. From here, section 2.d.(iii)
2.c. is more important. That's the part that forbids SQL Server completely, even with just one connection. The 10 connection limit is only for allowed services. Since SQL is forbidden, that is the overriding factor.
section v?
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@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I am so confused.
@Dashrender can you produce a link that says that SQL is limited to 10 connections when hosted from windows 10? It sounds like you are claiming this, and I don't believe it.
It's in the EULA and is both a technical limit as well as a licensing limit. Also, SQL hosted from Windows 10 has other license issues if used like a server beyond the hard limits.
@Donahue - do you still need a link to the EULA or are a few others agreeing with me enough? serious here, not trying to be a dick.
see my post above yours
yeah hadn't gotten that far yet.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I am so confused.
@Dashrender can you produce a link that says that SQL is limited to 10 connections when hosted from windows 10? It sounds like you are claiming this, and I don't believe it.
It's in the EULA and is both a technical limit as well as a licensing limit. Also, SQL hosted from Windows 10 has other license issues if used like a server beyond the hard limits.
can you guys explain more? I am unfamiliar with what you guys are trying to tell me. @scottalanmiller which EULA, windows 10 or SQL?
In the End User Licence Agreement, exist a clause that says you won't use a Microsoft Desktop platform to provide hosted services to more than X people.
(more or less)
And that you must purchase Microsoft Server and CALs if you need to host services above the stated limit.
Found it. From here, section 2.d.(iii)
2.c. is more important. That's the part that forbids SQL Server completely, even with just one connection. The 10 connection limit is only for allowed services. Since SQL is forbidden, that is the overriding factor.
Yeah this is the money statement here
c. Restrictions. The manufacturer or installer and Microsoft reserve all rights (such as rights under intellectual property laws) not expressly granted in this agreement. For example, this license does not give you any right to, and you may not:
v) use the software as server software, for commercial hosting, make the software available for simultaneous use by multiple users over a network, install the software on a server and allow users to access it remotely, or install the software on a device for use only by remote users;
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@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I am so confused.
@Dashrender can you produce a link that says that SQL is limited to 10 connections when hosted from windows 10? It sounds like you are claiming this, and I don't believe it.
It's in the EULA and is both a technical limit as well as a licensing limit. Also, SQL hosted from Windows 10 has other license issues if used like a server beyond the hard limits.
can you guys explain more? I am unfamiliar with what you guys are trying to tell me. @scottalanmiller which EULA, windows 10 or SQL?
In the End User Licence Agreement, exist a clause that says you won't use a Microsoft Desktop platform to provide hosted services to more than X people.
(more or less)
And that you must purchase Microsoft Server and CALs if you need to host services above the stated limit.
Found it. From here, section 2.d.(iii)
2.c. is more important. That's the part that forbids SQL Server completely, even with just one connection. The 10 connection limit is only for allowed services. Since SQL is forbidden, that is the overriding factor.
section v?
Correct
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
downloaded and installed Wiztree on clients computer, Clicked scan and it's just sitting here..
@JaredBusch @DustinB3403 What should i expect to see here?It'll progress and show you every file and folder on the system. Assuming you scanned the "C:" partition. Or wherever your looking to free up space.
Trying to scan
Partition, But it's only letting me scan folder by folder which I don't have time to do.Run the app as a local admin.
I did that to begin with.
you have zero free space on the drive you are scanning? If thats true - try running Wiztree from a USB.
that is correct ,I dont have the ability to go on site today - Was hoping to help them out remotely.
look in the main user's profile directory for the temp directory and see if you can delete some stuff.
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I wonder what else I am hosting from windows 10 breaks this clause then. Unifi? Various license servers for CAD? FM audit? Predator DNC?
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I am so confused.
@Dashrender can you produce a link that says that SQL is limited to 10 connections when hosted from windows 10? It sounds like you are claiming this, and I don't believe it.
It's in the EULA and is both a technical limit as well as a licensing limit. Also, SQL hosted from Windows 10 has other license issues if used like a server beyond the hard limits.
can you guys explain more? I am unfamiliar with what you guys are trying to tell me. @scottalanmiller which EULA, windows 10 or SQL?
In the End User Licence Agreement, exist a clause that says you won't use a Microsoft Desktop platform to provide hosted services to more than X people.
(more or less)
And that you must purchase Microsoft Server and CALs if you need to host services above the stated limit.
Found it. From here, section 2.d.(iii)
2.c. is more important. That's the part that forbids SQL Server completely, even with just one connection. The 10 connection limit is only for allowed services. Since SQL is forbidden, that is the overriding factor.
Yeah this is the money statement here
c. Restrictions. The manufacturer or installer and Microsoft reserve all rights (such as rights under intellectual property laws) not expressly granted in this agreement. For example, this license does not give you any right to, and you may not:
v) use the software as server software, for commercial hosting, make the software available for simultaneous use by multiple users over a network, install the software on a server and allow users to access it remotely, or install the software on a device for use only by remote users;
that says for commercial hosting - I assume that Scott and others are going to say - when you host to yourself, that is commercial hosting. OK I think I agree with that bit then...
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@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I wonder what else I am hosting from windows 10 breaks this clause then. Unifi? Various license servers for CAD? FM audit? Predator DNC?
The simpler answer is "anything". Windows 10 cannot be used as a server. There are extremely specific, and essentially useless, exceptions. You simply can't use Windows desktops as if they were cheap servers.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I am so confused.
@Dashrender can you produce a link that says that SQL is limited to 10 connections when hosted from windows 10? It sounds like you are claiming this, and I don't believe it.
It's in the EULA and is both a technical limit as well as a licensing limit. Also, SQL hosted from Windows 10 has other license issues if used like a server beyond the hard limits.
can you guys explain more? I am unfamiliar with what you guys are trying to tell me. @scottalanmiller which EULA, windows 10 or SQL?
In the End User Licence Agreement, exist a clause that says you won't use a Microsoft Desktop platform to provide hosted services to more than X people.
(more or less)
And that you must purchase Microsoft Server and CALs if you need to host services above the stated limit.
Found it. From here, section 2.d.(iii)
2.c. is more important. That's the part that forbids SQL Server completely, even with just one connection. The 10 connection limit is only for allowed services. Since SQL is forbidden, that is the overriding factor.
Yeah this is the money statement here
c. Restrictions. The manufacturer or installer and Microsoft reserve all rights (such as rights under intellectual property laws) not expressly granted in this agreement. For example, this license does not give you any right to, and you may not:
v) use the software as server software, for commercial hosting, make the software available for simultaneous use by multiple users over a network, install the software on a server and allow users to access it remotely, or install the software on a device for use only by remote users;
that says for commercial hosting - I assume that Scott and others are going to say - when you host to yourself, that is commercial hosting. OK I think I agree with that bit then...
The important bit to him is "server software." Everything he is describing is server software. Commercial hosting is on top of that, and not important here.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I wonder what else I am hosting from windows 10 breaks this clause then. Unifi? Various license servers for CAD? FM audit? Predator DNC?
You simply can't use Windows desktops as if they were cheap servers.
I agree that this is probably the point.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I am so confused.
@Dashrender can you produce a link that says that SQL is limited to 10 connections when hosted from windows 10? It sounds like you are claiming this, and I don't believe it.
It's in the EULA and is both a technical limit as well as a licensing limit. Also, SQL hosted from Windows 10 has other license issues if used like a server beyond the hard limits.
can you guys explain more? I am unfamiliar with what you guys are trying to tell me. @scottalanmiller which EULA, windows 10 or SQL?
In the End User Licence Agreement, exist a clause that says you won't use a Microsoft Desktop platform to provide hosted services to more than X people.
(more or less)
And that you must purchase Microsoft Server and CALs if you need to host services above the stated limit.
Found it. From here, section 2.d.(iii)
2.c. is more important. That's the part that forbids SQL Server completely, even with just one connection. The 10 connection limit is only for allowed services. Since SQL is forbidden, that is the overriding factor.
Yeah this is the money statement here
c. Restrictions. The manufacturer or installer and Microsoft reserve all rights (such as rights under intellectual property laws) not expressly granted in this agreement. For example, this license does not give you any right to, and you may not:
v) use the software as server software, for commercial hosting, make the software available for simultaneous use by multiple users over a network, install the software on a server and allow users to access it remotely, or install the software on a device for use only by remote users;
that says for commercial hosting - I assume that Scott and others are going to say - when you host to yourself, that is commercial hosting. OK I think I agree with that bit then...
The important bit to him is "server software." Everything he is describing is server software. Commercial hosting is on top of that, and not important here.
yep - these are the exceptions you're given.
Device connections. You may allow up to 20 other devices to access the software installed on the licensed device for the purpose of using the following software features: file services, print services, Internet information services, and Internet connection sharing and telephony services on the licensed device. You may allow any number of devices to access the software on the licensed device to synchronize data between devices. This section does not mean, however, that you have the right to install the software, or use the primary function of the software (other than the features listed in this section), on any of these other devices.
