What Are You Doing Right Now
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@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
The part of confusion is you, has anyone piped in to state what I've shown you to be wrong?
I am certainly confused. But I can't be the main one confused, I've asked ONE question and you've never even hinted at answering it. WHY did you make a blank video knowing it would be blank? What were you trying to demonstrate showing a six second delay?
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It's only so confusing when I ask a question and get no answer. I'm confused as to why you are avoiding the answer. But that's the end of the confusion. There's nothing I'm confused on technically, but I'm confused as to why you keep mentioning irrelevant technical details as if you think I don't understand them or you think that they somehow matter.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
How do people use PowerShell? Just opening it takes so long I forget why I was opening it!
Like @dafyre - I don't seem to have this issue. But then again, I am on a Windows machine. Could it be a Linux issue (of sorts)?
It's FAR worse on Windows than on Linux. Like 10x longer, maybe?
Maybe Windows users are just used to things being so slow that they don't notice?
I'd wager you have something going on on that system. I click the Powershell icon and start typing.
same here...
I KNOW you see it as slow. Every machine we have, it's slow. Find me any one you can that isn't.
The Windows 7 desktop I am on right now,.. takes just about 3sec to load... I see now that I am also RDP to a 2102r2 server ... and that is near instant....
Yeah, 2012 R2 (which is 8.1) that I just tested was fast. Three seconds is insanely slow, even one second is slower than other shell options.
I cannot imagine that your brain can grasp milliseconds and that it can actually see it and distinguish it. Seconds is one thing but three seconds
I mean that is insanely slow? Next time games with high graphics that low slow is insanely slow too. -
@scottalanmiller said in
None of that explains the question of "why did you think that a blank video would be useful?"So your issue of confusion is that you aren't aware that when UAC appears on Windows 10, it is impossible to record the UAC prompt and thus blanks out the screen.
So your assumption here is I should setup a tripod with an external camera so you can see my entire screen, desk, coffee mug and everything else so you can watch my type in admin credentials to run an elevated powershell window.
Does that sound correct?
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@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in
None of that explains the question of "why did you think that a blank video would be useful?"So your issue of confusion is that you aren't aware that when UAC appears on Windows 10, ...
See how this in no way addresses the question? You aren't even in the same conversation.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in
None of that explains the question of "why did you think that a blank video would be useful?"So your issue of confusion is that you aren't aware that when UAC appears on Windows 10, ...
See how this in no way addresses the question? You aren't even in the same conversation.
You're trolling me right?
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@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
So your issue of confusion is that you aren't aware that when UAC appears on Windows 10, it is impossible to record the UAC prompt and thus blanks out the screen.
So your assumption here is I should setup a tripod with an external camera so you can see my entire screen, desk, coffee mug and everything else so you can watch my type in admin credentials to run an elevated powershell window.
Does that sound correct?
No, I assumed you had a point and were making the video for a reason. Instead, it showed nothing useful. WHY DID YOU MAKE THE VIDEO?
Can't you see, just one question to answer. But you'll mention Windows 10 or UAC again isntead of answering it.
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@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in
None of that explains the question of "why did you think that a blank video would be useful?"So your issue of confusion is that you aren't aware that when UAC appears on Windows 10, ...
See how this in no way addresses the question? You aren't even in the same conversation.
You're trolling me right?
I'm asking ONE QUESTION.
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It's this simple...
Why did you make a video that showed a blank screen?
Answer: I was....
- Confused and thought you'd see something.
- Didn't understand how videos worked.
- Thought you wouldn't notice.
- Didn't realize that six seconds of dead air wouldn't be useful
I can't be the one trolling, you are the one not answering the super duper simple question.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
So your issue of confusion is that you aren't aware that when UAC appears on Windows 10, it is impossible to record the UAC prompt and thus blanks out the screen.
So your assumption here is I should setup a tripod with an external camera so you can see my entire screen, desk, coffee mug and everything else so you can watch my type in admin credentials to run an elevated powershell window.
Does that sound correct?
No, I assumed you had a point and were making the video for a reason. Instead, it showed nothing useful. WHY DID YOU MAKE THE VIDEO?
Can't you see, just one question to answer. But you'll mention Windows 10 or UAC again isntead of answering it.
I made the video to show you how incorrect you are. That opening powershell on Windows is quick, regardless of the fact that it takes time to type credentials to elevate.
Just like running su, it takes time to enter your credentials. Do you call this slow? Your time to type?!
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@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
So your issue of confusion is that you aren't aware that when UAC appears on Windows 10, it is impossible to record the UAC prompt and thus blanks out the screen.
So your assumption here is I should setup a tripod with an external camera so you can see my entire screen, desk, coffee mug and everything else so you can watch my type in admin credentials to run an elevated powershell window.
Does that sound correct?
No, I assumed you had a point and were making the video for a reason. Instead, it showed nothing useful. WHY DID YOU MAKE THE VIDEO?
Can't you see, just one question to answer. But you'll mention Windows 10 or UAC again isntead of answering it.
I made the video to show you how incorrect you are. That opening powershell on Windows is quick, regardless of the fact that it takes time to type credentials to elevate.
but it took SIX SECONDS, exactly as I said. Yes, something was going on for some amount of time during the blank screen, but how much of that time, we have no idea. All we know is that the result was six seconds. It never showed anything being fast. It doesn't show it was slow, either. It showed nothing useful. Hence the question.
How long it takes for you to type credentials excuses why it MIGHT be slow. But given that it WAS slow means the video could not have any value in showing it to be fast unless we had an additional timer on you typing credentials. We didn't, so it doesn't show what you wanted to show at all.
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Also it is why I specifically made the second video, and highlighted the fact to you that in the longer video I have to type in credentials to elevate.
How you can't come to grasp with that bit of information and just stop already, and accept that you're wrong is mind boggling.
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@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Also it is why I specifically made the second video, and highlighted the fact to you that in the longer video I have to type in credentials to elevate.
Yes, when you didn't type the creds, it was fast. THAT video was useful.
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@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
How you can't come to grasp with that bit of information and just stop already, and accept that you're wrong is mind boggling.
You've never come up with something I was even remotely wrong about. The video showed it taking a long time, that didn't tell me it was fast, so why show it being slow?
And I just kept asking what you were trying to show, and you never answered. You actually got so lost that you thought I didn't know how UAC worked and confused that with wondering why you bothered to show a blank screen.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Also it is why I specifically made the second video, and highlighted the fact to you that in the longer video I have to type in credentials to elevate.
Yes, when you didn't type the creds, it was fast. THAT video was useful.
Even when I did type my credentials (and told you that I was doing so) it was still fast.
You can't say "Oh powershell is so slow compared to linux" because someone has to pass credentials to elevate.
I could just as easily argue that having to run SU over and over and over again is slower than powershell because I have to keep entering credentials over and over and over again.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
How you can't come to grasp with that bit of information and just stop already, and accept that you're wrong is mind boggling.
You've never come up with something I was even remotely wrong about. The video showed it taking a long time, that didn't tell me it was fast, so why show it being slow?
And I just kept asking what you were trying to show, and you never answered. You actually got so lost that you thought I didn't know how UAC worked and confused that with wondering why you bothered to show a blank screen.
You're clearly inexperienced with windows and thus need to come down to our trenches to continue to have this conversation.
The "6 seconds" (as if this was fucking watergate) was the same amount of time it would take most people to pass credentials into SU.
Why is this difficult to grasp?
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@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Also it is why I specifically made the second video, and highlighted the fact to you that in the longer video I have to type in credentials to elevate.
Yes, when you didn't type the creds, it was fast. THAT video was useful.
Even when I did type my credentials (and told you that I was doing so) it was still fast.
What? It was six seconds. How does anyone know it was fast? All we know ALL we know, is that it was six seconds. That's not fast. Maybe you take 5.9 seconds to type your creds, that's fine, then PS was fast, but whether you make the video or not, it comes down to you having to just say "it was fast". The video doesn't make it any more or less apparent than you just stating it.
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@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
How you can't come to grasp with that bit of information and just stop already, and accept that you're wrong is mind boggling.
You've never come up with something I was even remotely wrong about. The video showed it taking a long time, that didn't tell me it was fast, so why show it being slow?
And I just kept asking what you were trying to show, and you never answered. You actually got so lost that you thought I didn't know how UAC worked and confused that with wondering why you bothered to show a blank screen.
You're clearly inexperienced with windows and thus need to come down to our trenches to continue to have this conversation.
See, this is the problem. I want to know how a blank screen tells me something is fast, and you think that that implies knowledge or lack thereof of Windows. That Windows was underneath isn't even relevant to the conversation.
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@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
The "6 seconds" (as if this was fucking watergate) was the same amount of time it would take most people to pass credentials into SU.
Do you think that using Windows determines typing time? That's not OS dependent.
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@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
redentials into SU.Why is this difficult to grasp?
Why do you think it's being discussed? why is THAT difficult to grasp? You are talking about something unrelated to the topic. I'm talking abotu the video, you think that Windows is part of that. It's not.
