What Are You Doing Right Now
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@kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@QuixoticJeremy @QuixoticJustin Maybe this needs to have its own thread, but how are you funding your tools? I'm always interested in working with new tools, but the world of FOSS is littered with abandonware.
We are funded by a private equity group in Texas that invests in technology-related businesses, primarily. I doubt that we will be going anywhere, we have no venture capital type people to answer to, and our backers have been around for a long time and are just changing their investment style. Traditional VC is churn and burn (build it up, get market, sell it) but ours are long term growth investors - they specialize in building long running businesses focused on revenues years out and make their returns from operational success, not selling to a larger player like California style VC focuses on.
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Exporting everything I care about in the XS6.5 home lab install and downloading them before making the switch to Fedora Minimal + KVM/remote Virtual Machine Manager.
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@travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Exporting everything I care about in the XS6.5 home lab install and downloading them before making the switch to Fedora Minimal + KVM/remote Virtual Machine Manager.
Why didn't up update to XS 7.1?
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@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Exporting everything I care about in the XS6.5 home lab install and downloading them before making the switch to Fedora Minimal + KVM/remote Virtual Machine Manager.
Why didn't up update to XS 7.1?
Difficult to do that upgrade when I don't have access to the remote management platform (it's hosted at wholesaleinternet.com). I'd pay almost as much just to power something I'd have at home. They offered 6.5 but not 7, why, I have no idea.
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This is an interesting thread. Overprovisioning the servers to six instead of two led to getting four SANs instead of zero. So the cascade of overprovisioning led to something like a 500% over-purchasing of gear. Ten boxes instead of two.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
This is an interesting thread. Overprovisioning the servers to six instead of two led to getting four SANs instead of zero. So the cascade of overprovisioning led to something like a 500% over-purchasing of gear. Ten boxes instead of two.
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@quixoticjustin said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@QuixoticJeremy @QuixoticJustin Maybe this needs to have its own thread, but how are you funding your tools? I'm always interested in working with new tools, but the world of FOSS is littered with abandonware.
We are funded by a private equity group in Texas that invests in technology-related businesses, primarily. I doubt that we will be going anywhere, we have no venture capital type people to answer to, and our backers have been around for a long time and are just changing their investment style. Traditional VC is churn and burn (build it up, get market, sell it) but ours are long term growth investors - they specialize in building long running businesses focused on revenues years out and make their returns from operational success, not selling to a larger player like California style VC focuses on.
I find the highlighted thing hard/impossible to believe. They might not be leaning on you, but I'm assuming they own enough of the company to make your life difficult at minimum, bad at worse.
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@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@quixoticjustin said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@QuixoticJeremy @QuixoticJustin Maybe this needs to have its own thread, but how are you funding your tools? I'm always interested in working with new tools, but the world of FOSS is littered with abandonware.
We are funded by a private equity group in Texas that invests in technology-related businesses, primarily. I doubt that we will be going anywhere, we have no venture capital type people to answer to, and our backers have been around for a long time and are just changing their investment style. Traditional VC is churn and burn (build it up, get market, sell it) but ours are long term growth investors - they specialize in building long running businesses focused on revenues years out and make their returns from operational success, not selling to a larger player like California style VC focuses on.
I find the highlighted thing hard/impossible to believe. They might not be leaning on you, but I'm assuming they own enough of the company to make your life difficult at minimum, bad at worse.
Maybe I worded that poorly. I meant that there are NO venture capital people to answer to. Not that the ones we have don't ask for answers. I mean we aren't VC funded, no VCs in site. Because we have no VCs, there are none to answer to at all.
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@quixoticjustin said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@quixoticjustin said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@QuixoticJeremy @QuixoticJustin Maybe this needs to have its own thread, but how are you funding your tools? I'm always interested in working with new tools, but the world of FOSS is littered with abandonware.
We are funded by a private equity group in Texas that invests in technology-related businesses, primarily. I doubt that we will be going anywhere, we have no venture capital type people to answer to, and our backers have been around for a long time and are just changing their investment style. Traditional VC is churn and burn (build it up, get market, sell it) but ours are long term growth investors - they specialize in building long running businesses focused on revenues years out and make their returns from operational success, not selling to a larger player like California style VC focuses on.
I find the highlighted thing hard/impossible to believe. They might not be leaning on you, but I'm assuming they own enough of the company to make your life difficult at minimum, bad at worse.
Maybe I worded that poorly. I meant that there are NO venture capital people to answer to. Not that the ones we have don't ask for answers. I mean we aren't VC funded, no VCs in site. Because we have no VCs, there are none to answer to at all.
Aww, well then you're either part owners yourself or employees, But I'm assuming there is still a CEO to answer to.
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@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@quixoticjustin said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@quixoticjustin said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@QuixoticJeremy @QuixoticJustin Maybe this needs to have its own thread, but how are you funding your tools? I'm always interested in working with new tools, but the world of FOSS is littered with abandonware.
We are funded by a private equity group in Texas that invests in technology-related businesses, primarily. I doubt that we will be going anywhere, we have no venture capital type people to answer to, and our backers have been around for a long time and are just changing their investment style. Traditional VC is churn and burn (build it up, get market, sell it) but ours are long term growth investors - they specialize in building long running businesses focused on revenues years out and make their returns from operational success, not selling to a larger player like California style VC focuses on.
I find the highlighted thing hard/impossible to believe. They might not be leaning on you, but I'm assuming they own enough of the company to make your life difficult at minimum, bad at worse.
Maybe I worded that poorly. I meant that there are NO venture capital people to answer to. Not that the ones we have don't ask for answers. I mean we aren't VC funded, no VCs in site. Because we have no VCs, there are none to answer to at all.
Aww, well then you're either part owners yourself or employees, But I'm assuming there is still a CEO to answer to.
I'm not sure I follow the logic here. A CEO is not like a VC. And why would all staff be owners if there aren't VCs? Maybe I'm being unclear, but a VC is an extremely specific type of investor that normal companies do not use. Do you have VCs investing in your workplace that expect to build and sell the company off in just a couple of years? Assuming you don't, does that then make you a part owner of that company?
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@quixoticjustin said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@quixoticjustin said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@quixoticjustin said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@QuixoticJeremy @QuixoticJustin Maybe this needs to have its own thread, but how are you funding your tools? I'm always interested in working with new tools, but the world of FOSS is littered with abandonware.
We are funded by a private equity group in Texas that invests in technology-related businesses, primarily. I doubt that we will be going anywhere, we have no venture capital type people to answer to, and our backers have been around for a long time and are just changing their investment style. Traditional VC is churn and burn (build it up, get market, sell it) but ours are long term growth investors - they specialize in building long running businesses focused on revenues years out and make their returns from operational success, not selling to a larger player like California style VC focuses on.
I find the highlighted thing hard/impossible to believe. They might not be leaning on you, but I'm assuming they own enough of the company to make your life difficult at minimum, bad at worse.
Maybe I worded that poorly. I meant that there are NO venture capital people to answer to. Not that the ones we have don't ask for answers. I mean we aren't VC funded, no VCs in site. Because we have no VCs, there are none to answer to at all.
Aww, well then you're either part owners yourself or employees, But I'm assuming there is still a CEO to answer to.
I'm not sure I follow the logic here. A CEO is not like a VC. And why would all staff be owners if there aren't VCs? Maybe I'm being unclear, but a VC is an extremely specific type of investor that normal companies do not use. Do you have VCs investing in your workplace that expect to build and sell the company off in just a couple of years? Assuming you don't, does that then make you a part owner of that company?
Well you're stuck on the VC thing - I was more talking about 'people to answer to' part. You have people to answer to, they just aren't VCs. That's true even if the people you're answering to is yourself.
This whole sub-topic came from:
@kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@QuixoticJeremy @QuixoticJustin Maybe this needs to have its own thread, but how are you funding your tools? I'm always interested in working with new tools, but the world of FOSS is littered with abandonware.
Your answer brought in VCs, not his question. So getting back to his question - where does funding come from? If not from VCs, then where?
I'm also curious what tools @Kelly is talking about? Is he talking about you purchasing software to help you make your software? i.e. IDEs (though many are free) or is he talking about who's paying you to make Sodium, or another way to look at it, how are you surviving financially while making this? Which we already know the answer to that second part - you still have a full time day job. You're writing Sodium on your own time after hours. So other than hosting, I'm wondering what expenses you have? Considering the people involved, I'd be very surprised if the entire thing isn't being written in FOSS solutions to keep you out of any lock-in.
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@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@quixoticjustin said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@quixoticjustin said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@quixoticjustin said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@QuixoticJeremy @QuixoticJustin Maybe this needs to have its own thread, but how are you funding your tools? I'm always interested in working with new tools, but the world of FOSS is littered with abandonware.
We are funded by a private equity group in Texas that invests in technology-related businesses, primarily. I doubt that we will be going anywhere, we have no venture capital type people to answer to, and our backers have been around for a long time and are just changing their investment style. Traditional VC is churn and burn (build it up, get market, sell it) but ours are long term growth investors - they specialize in building long running businesses focused on revenues years out and make their returns from operational success, not selling to a larger player like California style VC focuses on.
I find the highlighted thing hard/impossible to believe. They might not be leaning on you, but I'm assuming they own enough of the company to make your life difficult at minimum, bad at worse.
Maybe I worded that poorly. I meant that there are NO venture capital people to answer to. Not that the ones we have don't ask for answers. I mean we aren't VC funded, no VCs in site. Because we have no VCs, there are none to answer to at all.
Aww, well then you're either part owners yourself or employees, But I'm assuming there is still a CEO to answer to.
I'm not sure I follow the logic here. A CEO is not like a VC. And why would all staff be owners if there aren't VCs? Maybe I'm being unclear, but a VC is an extremely specific type of investor that normal companies do not use. Do you have VCs investing in your workplace that expect to build and sell the company off in just a couple of years? Assuming you don't, does that then make you a part owner of that company?
Well you're stuck on the VC thing - I was more talking about 'people to answer to' part. You have people to answer to, they just aren't VCs. That's true even if the people you're answering to is yourself.
This whole sub-topic came from:
@kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@QuixoticJeremy @QuixoticJustin Maybe this needs to have its own thread, but how are you funding your tools? I'm always interested in working with new tools, but the world of FOSS is littered with abandonware.
Your answer brought in VCs, not his question. So getting back to his question - where does funding come from? If not from VCs, then where?
I'm also curious what tools @Kelly is talking about? Is he talking about you purchasing software to help you make your software? i.e. IDEs (though many are free) or is he talking about who's paying you to make Sodium, or another way to look at it, how are you surviving financially while making this? Which we already know the answer to that second part - you still have a full time day job. You're writing Sodium on your own time after hours. So other than hosting, I'm wondering what expenses you have? Considering the people involved, I'd be very surprised if the entire thing isn't being written in FOSS solutions to keep you out of any lock-in.
I was curious about their business model to keep the products moving forward when they're free and hosted. Those two are much harder to combine and be at least revenue neutral.
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Think Im Gonna make a few Linux Live USB's starting with the Deepin 15.4.1 Amd 32 bit ( Couldnt find the 64 bit) for my desktop i got from my dads.. any tips? What should i do for the other 2 towers I have? All just need to be wiped and a new OS then they should be fine.
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@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Think Im Gonna make a few Linux Live USB's starting with the Deepin 15.4.1 Amd 32 bit ( Couldnt find the 64 bit) for my desktop i got from my dads.. any tips? What should i do for the other 2 towers I have? All just need to be wiped and a new OS then they should be fine.
Thinking about Korora for one, but what about the thrid? any suggestions will be greatly appreciated
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@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Think Im Gonna make a few Linux Live USB's starting with the Deepin 15.4.1 Amd 32 bit ( Couldnt find the 64 bit) for my desktop i got from my dads.. any tips? What should i do for the other 2 towers I have? All just need to be wiped and a new OS then they should be fine.
Thinking about Korora for one, but what about the thrid? any suggestions will be greatly appreciated
How about just pure Fedora?
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@nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Think Im Gonna make a few Linux Live USB's starting with the Deepin 15.4.1 Amd 32 bit ( Couldnt find the 64 bit) for my desktop i got from my dads.. any tips? What should i do for the other 2 towers I have? All just need to be wiped and a new OS then they should be fine.
Thinking about Korora for one, but what about the thrid? any suggestions will be greatly appreciated
How about just pure Fedora?
Is that what you use currently? Its defiantly something i can do.
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Waiting on MARTA train to depart for Hartsfield.
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@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Think Im Gonna make a few Linux Live USB's starting with the Deepin 15.4.1 Amd 32 bit ( Couldnt find the 64 bit) for my desktop i got from my dads.. any tips? What should i do for the other 2 towers I have? All just need to be wiped and a new OS then they should be fine.
Thinking about Korora for one, but what about the thrid? any suggestions will be greatly appreciated
How about just pure Fedora?
Is that what you use currently? Its defiantly something i can do.
I'm not dedicated to anything right now, but think it is something good to compare it to. See Fedora and Korora side by side to see how they compare.
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@nerdydad Thanks!
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@kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@quixoticjustin said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@quixoticjustin said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@quixoticjustin said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@QuixoticJeremy @QuixoticJustin Maybe this needs to have its own thread, but how are you funding your tools? I'm always interested in working with new tools, but the world of FOSS is littered with abandonware.
We are funded by a private equity group in Texas that invests in technology-related businesses, primarily. I doubt that we will be going anywhere, we have no venture capital type people to answer to, and our backers have been around for a long time and are just changing their investment style. Traditional VC is churn and burn (build it up, get market, sell it) but ours are long term growth investors - they specialize in building long running businesses focused on revenues years out and make their returns from operational success, not selling to a larger player like California style VC focuses on.
I find the highlighted thing hard/impossible to believe. They might not be leaning on you, but I'm assuming they own enough of the company to make your life difficult at minimum, bad at worse.
Maybe I worded that poorly. I meant that there are NO venture capital people to answer to. Not that the ones we have don't ask for answers. I mean we aren't VC funded, no VCs in site. Because we have no VCs, there are none to answer to at all.
Aww, well then you're either part owners yourself or employees, But I'm assuming there is still a CEO to answer to.
I'm not sure I follow the logic here. A CEO is not like a VC. And why would all staff be owners if there aren't VCs? Maybe I'm being unclear, but a VC is an extremely specific type of investor that normal companies do not use. Do you have VCs investing in your workplace that expect to build and sell the company off in just a couple of years? Assuming you don't, does that then make you a part owner of that company?
Well you're stuck on the VC thing - I was more talking about 'people to answer to' part. You have people to answer to, they just aren't VCs. That's true even if the people you're answering to is yourself.
This whole sub-topic came from:
@kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@QuixoticJeremy @QuixoticJustin Maybe this needs to have its own thread, but how are you funding your tools? I'm always interested in working with new tools, but the world of FOSS is littered with abandonware.
Your answer brought in VCs, not his question. So getting back to his question - where does funding come from? If not from VCs, then where?
I'm also curious what tools @Kelly is talking about? Is he talking about you purchasing software to help you make your software? i.e. IDEs (though many are free) or is he talking about who's paying you to make Sodium, or another way to look at it, how are you surviving financially while making this? Which we already know the answer to that second part - you still have a full time day job. You're writing Sodium on your own time after hours. So other than hosting, I'm wondering what expenses you have? Considering the people involved, I'd be very surprised if the entire thing isn't being written in FOSS solutions to keep you out of any lock-in.
I was curious about their business model to keep the products moving forward when they're free and hosted. Those two are much harder to combine and be at least revenue neutral.
Things like this are typically either using Ads or selling data (or both) to earn revenue.
