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    FreePBX - embedded queues, ring groups

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    • coliverC
      coliver @Dashrender
      last edited by

      @Dashrender said:

      If I have a queue that calls a ring group, how does the call get back into the proper order in the queue when the ring group goes to fail over?

      I'm thinking that if I send the ring group fail over to the queue that called it, it will start the queue over again from the beginning, the later people on the list will never get rung.

      I also didn't mention that after 5 mins in the queue, I need to hard fail the call to a voicemail.

      You're correct, if you set it up like I mentioned the ring group will need to be the last in the queue.

      Ah... the 5 minute thing, that would need to be handled by a queue with the failover being the voicemail.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @JaredBusch
        last edited by

        @JaredBusch said:

        @Dashrender said:

        If I have a queue that calls a ring group, how does the call get back into the proper order in the queue when the ring group goes to fail over?

        I'm thinking that if I send the ring group fail over to the queue that called it, it will start the queue over again from the beginning, the later people on the list will never get rung.

        I also didn't mention that after 5 mins in the queue, I need to hard fail the call to a voicemail.

        That is different than ringing until the call is answered

        lol you're right,

        But short of a ring group failing to itself, isn't a queue still a better place for many calls to stack up, instead of a ring group?

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said:

          But short of a ring group failing to itself, isn't a queue still a better place for many calls to stack up, instead of a ring group?

          yup. SO with the updated criteria in mind, yes. a Queue is the right thing to do.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @JaredBusch said:

            @Dashrender said:

            But short of a ring group failing to itself, isn't a queue still a better place for many calls to stack up, instead of a ring group?

            yup. SO with the updated criteria in mind, yes. a Queue is the right thing to do.

            OK - any thoughts how how I inject a four phone all ring group in the middle of my hunt style queue?

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            • coliverC
              coliver
              last edited by

              Are you still testing? I was thinking if you created a ring group with the extensions you want and place it as one of the static agents I wonder what would happen? I think the ring group would "answer" the channel and thus defeat the purpose of the queue... but it is worth a shot.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @coliver
                last edited by

                @coliver said:

                Are you still testing? I was thinking if you created a ring group with the extensions you want and place it as one of the static agents I wonder what would happen? I think the ring group would "answer" the channel and thus defeat the purpose of the queue... but it is worth a shot.

                I'm waiting for more phones to arrive, then yes I plan to test this, but I tend to agree with your logic.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch
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                  @Dashrender said:

                  1210, 1255, P0006, 1280, 1116

                  Screen Shot 2015-06-22 at 3.36.31 PM.png

                  Screen Shot 2015-06-22 at 3.39.28 PM.png

                  Screen Shot 2015-06-22 at 3.39.51 PM.png

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @JaredBusch said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    1210, 1255, P0006, 1280, 1116

                    Screen Shot 2015-06-22 at 3.36.31 PM.png

                    Screen Shot 2015-06-22 at 3.39.28 PM.png

                    Screen Shot 2015-06-22 at 3.39.51 PM.png

                    Can P0006 be a ring group? Or multiple numbers that ring at the same time?

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      All of the settings you have I agree with, it's the calling and returning of the secondary group that I don't understand how it would work differently than @coliver mentioned.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        should be yes. You can have external numbers in a queue if you want. As long as the external number does't go to voicemail of its own, the queue will retain the call.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @JaredBusch said:

                          should be yes. You can have external numbers in a queue if you want. As long as the external number does't go to voicemail of its own, the queue will retain the call.

                          That is good to know.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            Just so I understand this, if I setup a Ring Group to all ring, and there are no answer after my set Agent TimeOut, the Queue will pull the call back?

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
                              last edited by JaredBusch

                              Yes, because the Queue never actually sends the call to any destination until the ring is answered and the call established between the queue and the agent. then it brings the call in.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @JaredBusch
                                last edited by coliver

                                @JaredBusch said:

                                Yes, because the Queue never actually sends the call to any destination until the ring is answered and the call established between the queue and the agent. then it brings the call in.

                                Ok, so the Ring group never actually answers the call, unless someone picks up. That is good to know.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  Edited to have the right name in the title. FPBX is not a standard abbreviation of FreePBX.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    Edited to have the right name in the title. FPBX is not a standard abbreviation of FreePBX.

                                    Thanks - I only used it because I've seen it used other places.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      Thanks - I only used it because I've seen it used other places.

                                      Might be used some places I haven't seen. But in case someone is searching, they would search on FreePBX, not FPBX, I assume. Just in case others are looking for information later.

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                                      • NetworkNerdN
                                        NetworkNerd @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by NetworkNerd

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        Thanks - I only used it because I've seen it used other places.

                                        Might be used some places I haven't seen. But in case someone is searching, they would search on FreePBX, not FPBX, I assume. Just in case others are looking for information later.

                                        I can just picture someone saying "I can't get FPBX to work with my OBFN using a VM on ESXi running on OBR10 local disk." And it makes me chuckle a little.

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