Need audio cable help
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I have a digital piano that my daughter uses.
It has a 1/4 inch headphone jacks for output if desired.
I need to convert that to a mic input for a tablet on a standard mini jack.
She uses an app on her tablet that listens for her to play on the best correctly. But with the built in mic it misses notes often. The app recommends a direct connection to improve that.
I cannot find a cable for that. My search terms are simply returning various standard adapters. Standard adapters do not move the output audio to the mic input. Simply to the audio output of the new size.
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@gjacobse said in Need audio cable help:
Would this be close?
1/4 inch TS to 1/8 inch TRS Cable, 1/4" TS Mono to 1/8 inch(3.5mm) TRS Stereo Interconnect Adapter Cable,Mono to Stereo Patch Cord - 6.6 Feet/2 MetersOr the same thing from Monoprice for $2.99. https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=35793
I didn't look at shipping, so Monoprice might end up costing more.
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@travisdh1 said in Need audio cable help:
Or the same thing from Monoprice for $2.99. https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=35793
This seems like the wrong thing. Just a simple output.
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@gjacobse said in Need audio cable help:
Would this be close?
1/4 inch TS to 1/8 inch TRS Cable, 1/4" TS Mono to 1/8 inch(3.5mm) TRS Stereo Interconnect Adapter Cable,Mono to Stereo Patch Cord - 6.6 Feet/2 MetersAlso think this is the wrong way. Mono to Stereo doe snot seem like it goes to the mic of the minijack.
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I think What I need is two cables.
The standard 1/4 mono to 3/8 mini stereo as you both (and myself) found previously.
And then plug it in to the mic jack of this.
https://www.amazon.com/Kingtop-Adapter-Tablet-Headsets-Version/dp/B01I3A47I4 -
@jaredbusch said in Need audio cable help:
I think What I need is two cables.
The standard 1/4 mono to 3/8 mini stereo as you both (and myself) found previously.
And then plug it in to the mic jack of this.
https://www.amazon.com/Kingtop-Adapter-Tablet-Headsets-Version/dp/B01I3A47I4I would think that would work. When you have a separate mic input like we used to have, you could plug in headphones and use them as a mic. It's these new all input and output in one input jacks that are causing an issue, and I really don't know if you can find an input only one for phones these days.
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@flaxking just a matter of pin out alignment.
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@jaredbusch said in Need audio cable help:
I have a digital piano that my daughter uses.
It has a 1/4 inch headphone jacks for output if desired.
I need to convert that to a mic input for a tablet on a standard mini jack.
She uses an app on her tablet that listens for her to play on the best correctly. But with the built in mic it misses notes often. The app recommends a direct connection to improve that.
I cannot find a cable for that. My search terms are simply returning various standard adapters. Standard adapters do not move the output audio to the mic input. Simply to the audio output of the new size.
You have a mismatch of signals levels there.
The headphone output is for driving small speakers while a mic input is for picking up very low level voltage from a microphone.
Even if you made a cable the headphone output would overpower the mic input with a lot. It's a much, much stronger signal.
So besides cables you actually need some type of level converter.
Ideally you would want to avoid the headphone output and use the line output on the piano instead. I assume it has one. Usually 2 x RCA connectors. Normally when you plug something into the headphone output the speaker will be turned off. Hard to play the piano when you can't hear anything at all.
Anyway, search for audio adapters that musicians and streamers use for tablets and phones. For instance products from IK Multimedia like iRig Stream Solo. I think Rode has some as well. That will get you what you need in a complete package.
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@jaredbusch said in Need audio cable help:
I have a digital piano that my daughter uses.
It has a 1/4 inch headphone jacks for output if desired.
I need to convert that to a mic input for a tablet on a standard mini jack.
She uses an app on her tablet that listens for her to play on the best correctly. But with the built in mic it misses notes often. The app recommends a direct connection to improve that.
I cannot find a cable for that. My search terms are simply returning various standard adapters. Standard adapters do not move the output audio to the mic input. Simply to the audio output of the new size.
Are you sure the 1/4 output can be used as a signal input? On the keyboard we had before, there was a separate input for just this reason.
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@Pete-S @Obsolesce
I have a Pyle PDC22 that should handle the levels for me.
I realized, after posting, and searching more, I didn't have something to separate the minijack 4 pin mic port.
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@jaredbusch said in Need audio cable help:
@Pete-S @Obsolesce
I have a Pyle PDC22 that should handle the levels for me.
I realized, after posting, and searching more, I didn't have something to separate the minijack 4 pin mic port.
Just get out the soldering iron then. Buy any cable with a 3.5mm TRRS connector and cut off the other end and solder a 1/4" phono plug on it.
If you want to use adapters you're going to need several of them.
This is what the mic input into the tablet/phone should look like:
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@jaredbusch said in Need audio cable help:
I have a digital piano that my daughter uses.
It has a 1/4 inch headphone jacks for output if desired.
I need to convert that to a mic input for a tablet on a standard mini jack.
She uses an app on her tablet that listens for her to play on the best correctly. But with the built in mic it misses notes often. The app recommends a direct connection to improve that.
I cannot find a cable for that. My search terms are simply returning various standard adapters. Standard adapters do not move the output audio to the mic input. Simply to the audio output of the new size.
As an alternative to mucking about with all of that, a simple YETI Blue microphone close to the piano's speaker would work.
They are phenomenal mics. It could then be used for her to pick up voice if she wants to get into recording and playing around with creating music.
EDIT: Add a FocusRite Scarlett and ProTools if she gets serious and a few YETI Pro series mics.
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@phlipelder said in Need audio cable help:
@jaredbusch said in Need audio cable help:
I have a digital piano that my daughter uses.
It has a 1/4 inch headphone jacks for output if desired.
I need to convert that to a mic input for a tablet on a standard mini jack.
She uses an app on her tablet that listens for her to play on the best correctly. But with the built in mic it misses notes often. The app recommends a direct connection to improve that.
I cannot find a cable for that. My search terms are simply returning various standard adapters. Standard adapters do not move the output audio to the mic input. Simply to the audio output of the new size.
As an alternative to mucking about with all of that, a simple YETI Blue microphone close to the piano's speaker would work.
They are phenomenal mics. It could then be used for her to pick up voice if she wants to get into recording and playing around with creating music.
EDIT: Add a FocusRite Scarlett and ProTools if she gets serious and a few YETI Pro series mics.
Ya but nothing beats a direct signal. That's how we did it with ours before and was perfect compared to microphone to a speaker.
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Is there any way to use a BlueTooth transmitter?
Don't know if the app on her phone can receive input that way or not.
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I found an old Midi to USB cable over the weekend. ordered a USB to lightning adapter to try it out on her iPad.
