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    Reconsidering ProxMox

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Doyler3000
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      @Doyler3000 said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

      and then SAM saying that he uses qcow2 on lvm-thin mostly and it was the default for Proxmox.

      I said that? I must have mispoke.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Doyler3000
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        @Doyler3000 said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

        As regards moving to an appliance - I'm comfortable with KVM but I run our VM infrastructure mostly on my own. On occasions where I'm on holiday or otherwise unavailable, it would be helpful if at least a couple of others could administer the system (particularly backups).

        Totally makes sense. I'm the same. We have a much larger pool of people for ProxMox support than we do for non-ProxMox KVM support. It's nice to let the bigger pool handle general tasks. And the web interface is really nice.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch
          last edited by

          So, looking at Proxmox for a new deployment. I'll be dropping it on a spare laptop tomorrow to kick the tires.

          Looking at Proxmox over KVM simply for the GUI backup features.

          Anyone have any comments since they have fully released the backup stuff?

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          • FATeknollogeeF
            FATeknollogee
            last edited by

            I have not tried the new Backup Server yet.
            I do use the built-in PVE backup.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch
              last edited by

              A comment about the default install. With 6.3 on a system with a single disk, it used ext4 by default.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch
                last edited by

                and logging in, it looks like LVM-thin is right there.
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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  Uploading an ISO was simplicity. Not sure how/why the entire dicsussion above happened about using a USB....
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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @JaredBusch Oh, I assume because of this option?
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                    Fuck that. No one does that anywhere. The feature exists in every Hypervisor. But seriously, no one uses it.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch
                      last edited by JaredBusch

                      So what is the confusion about storage. It is not like you have an option when making a VM.
                      These were the defaults I saw.
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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch
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                        Not sure why LSI is "default, but VirtIO was selected? I left it alone.
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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch
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                          Going to have to RTFM soon, but WTF with a firewall enabled?
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                          I do not want my hypervisor doing jack shit to my instances.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            Wonder what they could do about Firefox thinking it is a pop up.

                            When Vultr pops the console, Firefox does not bitch like this.
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                            • black3dynamiteB
                              black3dynamite
                              last edited by black3dynamite

                              I mainly used the built-in backup in PVE excluding a couple of VMs that is being backed up via Proxmox Backup Server.
                              For backups in PVE, I use the ZSTD for compression and Snapshots mode instead of supsend or stop.

                              For backups in PBS, I have garbage collection schedule set to run once week, prune is scheduled daily and it's set to keep the last 7 snapshots. I haven't tried its sync jobs (I assume its for syncing backups to another backup server. I have read the manual.).

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                              • black3dynamiteB
                                black3dynamite @JaredBusch
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                                @JaredBusch said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                Going to have to RTFM soon, but WTF with a firewall enabled?
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                                I do not want my hypervisor doing jack shit to my instances.

                                Although is selected, it's not active.
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                                • black3dynamiteB
                                  black3dynamite
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                                  There's a firewall setting at the Datacenter (cluster) level, for each PVE hosts and for each VM/Container.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @black3dynamite
                                    last edited by JaredBusch

                                    @black3dynamite said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                    There's a firewall setting at the Datacenter (cluster) level, for each PVE hosts and for each VM/Container.

                                    I get reasons that it could be beneficial. But for the typical SMB, that should never really happen.

                                    I did say I have not RTFM at all yet.

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                                    • jclambertJ
                                      jclambert
                                      last edited by

                                      I haven't played with it for over 5 years. I never got past a brief test, as I relocated to TX for a new position.

                                      It seems others have found it effective however.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @jclambert
                                        last edited by

                                        @jclambert said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                        I haven't played with it for over 5 years. I never got past a brief test, as I relocated to TX for a new position.

                                        It seems others have found it effective however.

                                        5 years ago I would not ever touch ProxMox. It was a pile of flaming garbage.

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                                        • hobbit666H
                                          hobbit666
                                          last edited by hobbit666

                                          Tried installing last night, but gave up. Don't think it likes my motherboard SATA.
                                          Complained about not finding HD

                                          Couldn't be bothered working it out so went back to ESXi :).

                                          May try again if i bring a Dell T server home with me in the new year.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @hobbit666
                                            last edited by

                                            @hobbit666 said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                            Tried installing last night, but gave up. Don't think it likes my motherboard SATA.
                                            Complained about not finding HD

                                            Couldn't be bothered working it out so went back to ESXi :).

                                            May try again if i bring a Dell T server home with me in the new year.

                                            I assume this means you were trying on an old desktop? I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't package drivers in for old/consumer equipment as their goal is clearly targeting the business market - for production use.

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