Reconsidering ProxMox
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@JasGot said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@JaredBusch said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
You are intentionally doing it the hard way. No hypervisor is designed to use a full install media to turn up guests, even if they have an option for CDROM. Just put the ISO on there like you should.
I understand this is easy to do. I also understand that if I was sourcing the media at the time of install, this would be super simple and I would not have even thought about local USB access.
But I also believe if I have bootable usb server media in my hand, I should be able to use it without much difficulty. After all, they made the CD/DVD an option..... and why? Most servers don't even come with CD/DVDs any more.....
Having found no documentation on how to use local usb for the installation source, I did upload an ISO. It took MUCH longer than sticking the USB stick in the USB port. (USB Stick - 2.1 seconds; ISO Media - 9 Minutes to download from MS, and 3 minutes to upload to PVE).
That's all. Nothing more, nothing less, I just think I should be able to easily use the resources that are already laying next to the server on the bench.
I don't think that using a USB bootable stick on the hypervisor is possible with xenserver/xcp-ng either.
What you really want there is a file share outside the hypervisor that has all the ISO files. If you have no infrastructure available, the easiest thing would be to download the iso file to your workstation and share that folder with the hypervisor.
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@Pete-S said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
I don't think that using a USB bootable stick on the hypervisor is possible with xenserver/xcp-ng either.
It is, but it is not recommended.
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@scottalanmiller said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
Not ideal, but with compression and dedupe, not the problem it seems to be. And it is far less risky that continuous partials that always depend on rehydration.
2TB of data and a large backup window? Not a huge deal.
50TB of data, and 100% 24/7 workloads? Not going to fly.
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@black3dynamite said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
It’s supports multiple storage types like nfs or cifs
Obligatory - https://blog.fosketts.net/2012/02/16/cifs-smb/
(Saying CIFS is my pet peeve).
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How is everyone liking it so far?
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@VoIP_n00b - only just started reading through their wiki. Currently looking at their use of ZFS and how I'd make that work on my equipment.
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@VoIP_n00b said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
How is everyone liking it so far?
It is almost like XCP-ng but with a nice Web GUI and with KVM. That said I have know of this for a while, I am just not sure what your tie is to it but it is a legit system.
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@VoIP_n00b said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
How is everyone liking it so far?
Still early, but so far, so good.
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@VoIP_n00b said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
How is everyone liking it so far?
Had several failures of the VM to restart after a windows induced restart. But now it has been stable. So far it looks promising.
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@JasGot are the tools installed?
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@VoIP_n00b said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@JasGot are the tools installed?
They are not. and I just checked it out, why does it have to be such an ordeal to install the qemu guest?
Uggg...
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@JasGot said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@VoIP_n00b said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@JasGot are the tools installed?
They are not. and I just checked it out, why does it have to be such an ordeal to install the qemu guest?
Uggg...What do you mean?
choco install virtio-drivers -y
That's it.
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It's only a big deal because unlike any other OS, Windows doesn't include major drivers by default. That Windows doesn't have these baked in is just mind blowing how far behind every other OS out there they are.
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@JasGot said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@VoIP_n00b said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@JasGot are the tools installed?
They are not. and I just checked it out, why does it have to be such an ordeal to install the qemu guest?
Uggg...Okay, it wasn't that bad, but it is more involved than installing (FOR EXAMPLE) vmtools which is just a push from the host. I thought about not posting this because of the heat I may get, but you know what? as easy as you might think it is since you knew what to do, it is not as easy vmtools was. I didn't have to google the process for vm tools.
Not trying to lift up any Hyper V over another, I'm just sayin'.....
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@scottalanmiller said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
It's only a big deal because unlike any other OS, Windows doesn't include major drivers by default. That Windows doesn't have these baked in is just mind blowing how far behind every other OS out there they are.
Microsoft is narcissistic.
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@scottalanmiller said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
What do you mean?
choco install virtio-drivers -y
That's it.I don't use Chocolaty. I tried it when I first started coming around here, at the accolades of others; but I just found it didn't easily install or automate about half of the things we need. So I passed without judgment.
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@JasGot said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@scottalanmiller said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
What do you mean?
choco install virtio-drivers -y
That's it.I don't use Chocolaty. I tried it when I first started coming around here, at the accolades of others; but I just found it didn't easily install or automate about half of the things we need. So I passed without judgment.
so instead of using it for the half it does, you simply dumped it? Why not make life easy for as much of it as you can?
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@Dashrender said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@JasGot said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@scottalanmiller said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
What do you mean?
choco install virtio-drivers -y
That's it.I don't use Chocolaty. I tried it when I first started coming around here, at the accolades of others; but I just found it didn't easily install or automate about half of the things we need. So I passed without judgment.
so instead of using it for the half it does, you simply dumped it? Why not make life easy for as much of it as you can?
Because we have our own scripts and installers that automate all of the tasks we need. No need to move 1/2 of our work to another tool. If it handled everything I think I would have jumped at the prospect. But there were still hurdles we didn't get a chance to explore, so I can;t say for certain we would have made the move, but I sure gave it the 'ol college try!
