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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @notverypunny
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      @notverypunny said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

      otherwise the Asus Zenfone line is generally good bang for the buck

      Right on the verge of impossible to get in the US. Asus refuses to even provide Americans with a clear list of available products that they make!

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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        @WrCombs said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

        @Obsolesce said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

        @WrCombs said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

        @Obsolesce said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

        @IRJ said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

        How about not taking another loan on mobile device. I don't even like taking a loan on a car let alone a phone. I'm not sure how or why people feel like they have to finance it and pay at least 2x for something that doesnt hold value for shit.

        Do carriers charge interest? I've not seen that. Typically it's a discounted phone, and at worst you pay regular price divided by 24 months without interest.

        That said, I always buy them outright, but my last two have been free.

        I want to buy one outright and not pay on it - but pay for the service of the phone. does that make sense?

        Yeah, that's how it works. The phone plan is the same cost whether you have device payments or not. For example, your phone plan costs $100 a month. You choose a $900 phone, now your monthly payment will be $137.50 prior to taxes and/or other fees. Buy that phone outright, immediately, or at any time, payment is then $100 a month again.

        That's what I thought as well -
        Now I'm looking at phones that aren't held by the carrier so I'll have to buy it outright and get service put on it.
        Is what it comes down to .

        All phones on TMobile are like that.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

          And anyone saying - well, I can't move between carriers if I have a payment... to that I say two things 1) BS, yes you can, you just pay off the rest of the phone before making the switch, 2) how often do people actually change carriers

          And if you have a good carrier to begin with, you can move plans without having to pay off the phone!

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

            @Dashrender said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

            And anyone saying - well, I can't move between carriers if I have a payment... to that I say two things 1) BS, yes you can, you just pay off the rest of the phone before making the switch, 2) how often do people actually change carriers

            And if you have a good carrier to begin with, you can move plans without having to pay off the phone!

            Not even sure what this means? are you saying that the carrier will continue to allow you to simply make the no interest payments on the device while not having service with them?

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch
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              Timely. Just read this.
              https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2019/08/10/verizon-t-mobile-at-t-all-agree-monthly-payments-vs-1-000-prices/1955946001/

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                @scottalanmiller said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                @Dashrender said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                And anyone saying - well, I can't move between carriers if I have a payment... to that I say two things 1) BS, yes you can, you just pay off the rest of the phone before making the switch, 2) how often do people actually change carriers

                And if you have a good carrier to begin with, you can move plans without having to pay off the phone!

                Not even sure what this means? are you saying that the carrier will continue to allow you to simply make the no interest payments on the device while not having service with them?

                No. He said change plan. Not change carrier. He’s discussing something that none of the rest of us are.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                  @Dashrender said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                  @Dashrender said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                  And anyone saying - well, I can't move between carriers if I have a payment... to that I say two things 1) BS, yes you can, you just pay off the rest of the phone before making the switch, 2) how often do people actually change carriers

                  And if you have a good carrier to begin with, you can move plans without having to pay off the phone!

                  Not even sure what this means? are you saying that the carrier will continue to allow you to simply make the no interest payments on the device while not having service with them?

                  No. He said change plan. Not change carrier. He’s discussing something that none of the rest of us are.

                  Oh okay, I misunderstood.

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                  • notverypunnyN
                    notverypunny @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                    @notverypunny said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                    otherwise the Asus Zenfone line is generally good bang for the buck

                    Right on the verge of impossible to get in the US. Asus refuses to even provide Americans with a clear list of available products that they make!

                    Really? They aren't super popular or well known north of the 49th parallel but I can usually find unlocked versions through staples, amazon or best buy....

                    https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=zenfone&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

                    Maybe an excuse for some cross-border shopping?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @notverypunny
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                      @notverypunny said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                      @notverypunny said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                      otherwise the Asus Zenfone line is generally good bang for the buck

                      Right on the verge of impossible to get in the US. Asus refuses to even provide Americans with a clear list of available products that they make!

                      Really? They aren't super popular or well known north of the 49th parallel but I can usually find unlocked versions through staples, amazon or best buy....

                      https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=zenfone&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

                      Maybe an excuse for some cross-border shopping?

                      We can generally find them, yes, but it takes a lot of effort and knowing what you are getting is extremely hard. The US is an odd market in that we get tons of things that no one else gets, but tons of things that are widely available elsewhere is effectively impossible to get in the US. Not totally impossible, just absurdly difficult and obscure.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        For something like a phone, Mexico and Panama are generally the best options for Americans due to their large supply chains that are generally disassociated from our own. Canadian supply chains tend to be "filtered" out of American ones - Canadians get just "less" than we get in the US, at higher prices.

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                        • notverypunnyN
                          notverypunny @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                          @notverypunny said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                          @notverypunny said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                          otherwise the Asus Zenfone line is generally good bang for the buck

                          Right on the verge of impossible to get in the US. Asus refuses to even provide Americans with a clear list of available products that they make!

                          Really? They aren't super popular or well known north of the 49th parallel but I can usually find unlocked versions through staples, amazon or best buy....

                          https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=zenfone&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

                          Maybe an excuse for some cross-border shopping?

                          We can generally find them, yes, but it takes a lot of effort and knowing what you are getting is extremely hard. The US is an odd market in that we get tons of things that no one else gets, but tons of things that are widely available elsewhere is effectively impossible to get in the US. Not totally impossible, just absurdly difficult and obscure.

                          Yeah, like a standard transmission in a Mazda3.... I got worried when reading reviews before the equipment specs were revealed, you guys can only get the stick in the top of the line version, here in the great white north it's available across the board. </thread hijack>

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                          • notverypunnyN
                            notverypunny @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                            For something like a phone, Mexico and Panama are generally the best options for Americans due to their large supply chains that are generally disassociated from our own. Canadian supply chains tend to be "filtered" out of American ones - Canadians get just "less" than we get in the US, at higher prices.

                            Don't I know it.... but I didn't have to re-mortgage the house to cover the hospital bills when the kids were born. Advantage to where I live is that I can go to the states to get gas for the car. Typically about $0.30/L cheaper in Maine than here in town.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @notverypunny
                              last edited by

                              @notverypunny said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                              For something like a phone, Mexico and Panama are generally the best options for Americans due to their large supply chains that are generally disassociated from our own. Canadian supply chains tend to be "filtered" out of American ones - Canadians get just "less" than we get in the US, at higher prices.

                              Don't I know it.... but I didn't have to re-mortgage the house to cover the hospital bills when the kids were born. Advantage to where I live is that I can go to the states to get gas for the car. Typically about $0.30/L cheaper in Maine than here in town.

                              Those places have free, public healthcare too, just like Canada. Mexico is so good that Americans generally prefer to go there, rather than Canada, when we need actual doctors.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @notverypunny
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                                @notverypunny said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                                @notverypunny said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                                @notverypunny said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                                otherwise the Asus Zenfone line is generally good bang for the buck

                                Right on the verge of impossible to get in the US. Asus refuses to even provide Americans with a clear list of available products that they make!

                                Really? They aren't super popular or well known north of the 49th parallel but I can usually find unlocked versions through staples, amazon or best buy....

                                https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=zenfone&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

                                Maybe an excuse for some cross-border shopping?

                                We can generally find them, yes, but it takes a lot of effort and knowing what you are getting is extremely hard. The US is an odd market in that we get tons of things that no one else gets, but tons of things that are widely available elsewhere is effectively impossible to get in the US. Not totally impossible, just absurdly difficult and obscure.

                                Yeah, like a standard transmission in a Mazda3.... I got worried when reading reviews before the equipment specs were revealed, you guys can only get the stick in the top of the line version, here in the great white north it's available across the board. </thread hijack>

                                Well, that's because no one here knows how to drive stick. The "American anti-theft device" as every European jokes.

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                                  For something like a phone, Mexico and Panama are generally the best options for Americans due to their large supply chains that are generally disassociated from our own. Canadian supply chains tend to be "filtered" out of American ones - Canadians get just "less" than we get in the US, at higher prices.

                                  How can the best option involve wasting time to potentially drive for days to buy a cell phone for less than the gas it costs to get it?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                    last edited by

                                    @Obsolesce said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                                    How can the best option involve wasting time to potentially drive for days to buy a cell phone for less than the gas it costs to get it?

                                    Well a flight can be like $50. You normally combine purchases. Need some medicine, for example, it only takes a small prescription to pay for a flight down, a few nights there, time on the beach, etc.

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                                      @Obsolesce said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                                      How can the best option involve wasting time to potentially drive for days to buy a cell phone for less than the gas it costs to get it?

                                      Well a flight can be like $50. You normally combine purchases. Need some medicine, for example, it only takes a small prescription to pay for a flight down, a few nights there, time on the beach, etc.

                                      Unfortunately in the real world, not everyone is a quick $50 flight to Mexico or even further down. I'd say most. And most may not want to also buy their prescriptions there either.

                                      I'd say while it could be the best option for you to get all of your cell phones from Mexico, it's not for most.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @Obsolesce
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                                        @Obsolesce said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                                        @Obsolesce said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                                        How can the best option involve wasting time to potentially drive for days to buy a cell phone for less than the gas it costs to get it?

                                        Well a flight can be like $50. You normally combine purchases. Need some medicine, for example, it only takes a small prescription to pay for a flight down, a few nights there, time on the beach, etc.

                                        Unfortunately in the real world, not everyone is a quick $50 flight to Mexico or even further down. I'd say most. And most may not want to also buy their prescriptions there either.

                                        I'd say while it could be the best option for you to get all of your cell phones from Mexico, it's not for most.

                                        Exactly - a flight to anywhere in TX for me costs $350 to start.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                                          @Obsolesce said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                                          Unfortunately in the real world, not everyone is a quick $50 flight to Mexico or even further down. I'd say most. And most may not want to also buy their prescriptions there either.

                                          Just because they "dont' want to" has nothing to do with it. What one CAN do is not affected by what one wants. If people prefer to waste money, of course they are free to do so, doesn't change their options, though. And much of the US is a cheap flight away from cheap locations, they just choose to generally ignore the cheap options. Not everyone has them, but way, way more people than you'd think.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                                            @Obsolesce said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                                            @Obsolesce said in Time for a mobile phone upgrade:

                                            How can the best option involve wasting time to potentially drive for days to buy a cell phone for less than the gas it costs to get it?

                                            Well a flight can be like $50. You normally combine purchases. Need some medicine, for example, it only takes a small prescription to pay for a flight down, a few nights there, time on the beach, etc.

                                            Unfortunately in the real world, not everyone is a quick $50 flight to Mexico or even further down. I'd say most. And most may not want to also buy their prescriptions there either.

                                            I'd say while it could be the best option for you to get all of your cell phones from Mexico, it's not for most.

                                            Exactly - a flight to anywhere in TX for me costs $350 to start.

                                            You aren't "most" by any stretch, though. Most of the US lives in a few, giant metro areas. Most of which have super cleap flights.

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