Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync
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@Curtis said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@Dashrender said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
Tons of people use gmail for email - so I don't consider OneNote to be any worse than that. 99.9% of people don't give a hoot about open source. The complete control part can be nice, but it also means you have more work to do.
Guess I am in the 0.01%
Most people in ML are in the 0.01%, so no real surprise there
If I mentioned a Google OneNote like product to compete against Joplin - then I'd say you need to be worried about it being open source so you could export it out when Google finally decides they are bored with it and kill it.But MS doesn't tend to kill much, I don't see OneNote dieing anytime soon.
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@Dashrender said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@Curtis said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@Dashrender said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
Tons of people use gmail for email - so I don't consider OneNote to be any worse than that. 99.9% of people don't give a hoot about open source. The complete control part can be nice, but it also means you have more work to do.
Guess I am in the 0.01%
Most people in ML are in the 0.01%, so no real surprise there
If I mentioned a Google OneNote like product to compete against Joplin - then I'd say you need to be worried about it being open source so you could export it out when Google finally decides they are bored with it and kill it.But MS doesn't tend to kill much, I don't see OneNote dieing anytime soon.
Yeah, fuck Google products... I'm still surprised I have not had to move my daerma.com domain off of GSuite yet. I moved it there years and years ago when it was free, and it is still grandfathered in as a free account.
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@Dashrender said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
How is this better than free OneNote? Being that OneNote has a web interface as well as the mobile apps (iOS and Android) it can work everywhere too.
Actually works, data can be pulled out of it, you can back it up really easily, editing is simple, works on devices we actually have.
OneNote has proven to be the number one technical blunder that MQ and Art made introducing at NTG. It's tech designed around trapping you with high cost systems. Once you put your data in, there is no way but a manual recreation to get it out. And it isn't something you can put on any device, I can't install it on my desktop for example, so very limiting even as a non-corporate solution.
I can fathom anyone wanting to use it, and I like note taking apps. There are lots of good ones to ask about, OneNote is the farthest thing from.
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@Curtis said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
- It's open source.
- you have complete control of your data
- Actually installs and functions
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@Dashrender said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@Curtis said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
- It's open source.
- you have complete control of your data
Tons of people use gmail for email - so I don't consider OneNote to be any worse than that.
It's way, way worse. Gmail has IMAP and you can get your data in a standard format in minutes. While it isn't open source, it is open. No comparison.
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@scottalanmiller said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@Curtis said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
- It's open source.
- you have complete control of your data
- Actually installs and functions
What is there to install - I said use the web version. Granted I haven't - so perhaps the web version is near useless?
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@Dashrender said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
99.9% of people don't give a hoot about open source. The complete control part can be nice, but it also means you have more work to do.
That's not true. Not knowing that open source is what they care about isn't the same as not caring. People care that food is healthy, even if they don't know what makes something healthy. Open source fixes many of the problems people find, they just don't realize that that ist he thing protecting them, btu they certainly care when they find out.
The control doesn't make more work, it makes less. It just is perceived as more because the work is before you start, not when you try to leave.
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@Dashrender said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@scottalanmiller said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@Curtis said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
- It's open source.
- you have complete control of your data
- Actually installs and functions
What is there to install - I said use the web version. Granted I haven't - so perhaps the web version is near useless?
How do I use teh web edition offline when at a customer site? That's what I want a note app for, when I'm offline. Otherwise I have the wiki.
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@Dashrender said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@scottalanmiller said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@Curtis said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
- It's open source.
- you have complete control of your data
- Actually installs and functions
What is there to install - I said use the web version. Granted I haven't - so perhaps the web version is near useless?
So I didn't know that there was a web edition and I just tried it. This is an easy one... the web edition is painfully slow. Of course the regular edition is slow, painful to actually use. But the web one takes way too long to open. Joplin is lightning fast, something I need for notes.
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@scottalanmiller said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@Dashrender said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@scottalanmiller said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@Curtis said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
- It's open source.
- you have complete control of your data
- Actually installs and functions
What is there to install - I said use the web version. Granted I haven't - so perhaps the web version is near useless?
How do I use teh web edition offline when at a customer site? That's what I want a note app for, when I'm offline. Otherwise I have the wiki.
OK I didn't consider offline access on a laptop - of course mobile versions solve that.
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@Dashrender said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@scottalanmiller said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@Dashrender said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@scottalanmiller said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@Curtis said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
- It's open source.
- you have complete control of your data
- Actually installs and functions
What is there to install - I said use the web version. Granted I haven't - so perhaps the web version is near useless?
How do I use teh web edition offline when at a customer site? That's what I want a note app for, when I'm offline. Otherwise I have the wiki.
OK I didn't consider offline access on a laptop - of course mobile versions solve that.
That's good for phones. Typically I would use my laptop at a customer site offsite to take notes. Not a HUGE use case, but one where my desired use case (offline access at clients, and airplanes) is lacking.
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I use Notion a lot. It's not open source but it's kind of a hosted version of Joplin.
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I use Notes, built in to NC. I like it. Thought I'd give Joplin a try, I have never needed to use markup for notes, so it'll be fun to see how it goes.
I installed it on my Windows Desktop first.
Then on my Android phone.In less than 5 minutes I found two startup annoyances
First, if you don't catch the fact that you have to save your changes in the Android App before you leave the screen, you'll be re-typing your NC url again!The next thing I immediately noticed was after the first sync, I now have Duplicate Tags in the nav menu. For each of the factory installed notes, I have one for each of the two notebooks. I can fix it by deleting them, but still........ My tags are already cluttered and I haven't even made a note!
For those of you that use it on your smartphones, do you really take notes on your phones? I just can't find it to be productive at all. I guess my fingers are too big, or i am just too old!
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@JasGot said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
For those of you that use it on your smartphones, do you really take notes on your phones? I just can't find it to be productive at all. I guess my fingers are too big, or i am just too old!
I do. I like being able to take notes, throw it in my pocket and catch up on my desktop later.
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@scottalanmiller said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@JasGot said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
For those of you that use it on your smartphones, do you really take notes on your phones? I just can't find it to be productive at all. I guess my fingers are too big, or i am just too old!
I do. I like being able to take notes, throw it in my pocket and catch up on my desktop later.
Do you use voice to text at all?
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@wrx7m said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@scottalanmiller said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@JasGot said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
For those of you that use it on your smartphones, do you really take notes on your phones? I just can't find it to be productive at all. I guess my fingers are too big, or i am just too old!
I do. I like being able to take notes, throw it in my pocket and catch up on my desktop later.
Do you use voice to text at all?
No
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@wrx7m said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@scottalanmiller said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
@JasGot said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
For those of you that use it on your smartphones, do you really take notes on your phones? I just can't find it to be productive at all. I guess my fingers are too big, or i am just too old!
I do. I like being able to take notes, throw it in my pocket and catch up on my desktop later.
Do you use voice to text at all?
That would solve my thumb issues!
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I've been using Sticky Notes between my Android and Win10 PCs.
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I'm really excited to start using this at work on Monday. Admittedly, I've never used Onenote or Evernote, so I can't really compare, but it looks like this will be perfect my organizing my meetings, project roadmaps and todo's.
Also the web clipper is really neat, convert a webpage into a simplified markdown page.
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@Obsolesce said in Joplin, an Open Source Note Application with NextCloud Sync:
I've been using Sticky Notes between my Android and Win10 PCs.
There is a Microsoft sticky notes app for Android?
