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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @WrCombs
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      @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

      @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

      @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

      @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

      @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

      @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

      The homeowner could have also had UPNP enabled in their firewall allowing the hackers to gain direct access

      So you're saying that potentially their router had UPnP enabled and from there opened the port to the camera\security system?

      (sorry for the noob-ish question, Never heard of that until google told me what it was.)

      Yep tons of shitty consumer stuff does that

      but for why?

      Because they are there to sell shitty consumer cameras "accessible from anywhere in the world".

      Via an RTSP feed directly from the device. . .

      which also means that anyone with half a brain incyber security can get into your cameras just as well. ...

      Don't even need that much. The feed is literally just sitting out on the open internet waiting for anyone to go to a self hosted webpage to view.

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      • WrCombsW
        WrCombs @DustinB3403
        last edited by

        @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

        @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

        @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

        @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

        @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

        @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

        @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

        The homeowner could have also had UPNP enabled in their firewall allowing the hackers to gain direct access

        So you're saying that potentially their router had UPnP enabled and from there opened the port to the camera\security system?

        (sorry for the noob-ish question, Never heard of that until google told me what it was.)

        Yep tons of shitty consumer stuff does that

        but for why?

        Because they are there to sell shitty consumer cameras "accessible from anywhere in the world".

        Via an RTSP feed directly from the device. . .

        which also means that anyone with half a brain in cyber security can get into your cameras just as well. ...

        Don't even need that much. The feed is literally just sitting out on the open internet waiting for anyone to go to a self hosted webpage to view.

        /sigh
        that's ridiculous.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @WrCombs
          last edited by

          @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

          @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

          @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

          @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

          @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

          @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

          @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

          @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

          The homeowner could have also had UPNP enabled in their firewall allowing the hackers to gain direct access

          So you're saying that potentially their router had UPnP enabled and from there opened the port to the camera\security system?

          (sorry for the noob-ish question, Never heard of that until google told me what it was.)

          Yep tons of shitty consumer stuff does that

          but for why?

          Because they are there to sell shitty consumer cameras "accessible from anywhere in the world".

          Via an RTSP feed directly from the device. . .

          which also means that anyone with half a brain in cyber security can get into your cameras just as well. ...

          Don't even need that much. The feed is literally just sitting out on the open internet waiting for anyone to go to a self hosted webpage to view.

          /sigh
          that's ridiculous.

          Not really what is ridiculous is that there is no authentication mechanism in place. That is the fault of the maker

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          • WrCombsW
            WrCombs @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

            @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

            @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

            @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

            @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

            @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

            @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

            @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

            @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

            The homeowner could have also had UPNP enabled in their firewall allowing the hackers to gain direct access

            So you're saying that potentially their router had UPnP enabled and from there opened the port to the camera\security system?

            (sorry for the noob-ish question, Never heard of that until google told me what it was.)

            Yep tons of shitty consumer stuff does that

            but for why?

            Because they are there to sell shitty consumer cameras "accessible from anywhere in the world".

            Via an RTSP feed directly from the device. . .

            which also means that anyone with half a brain in cyber security can get into your cameras just as well. ...

            Don't even need that much. The feed is literally just sitting out on the open internet waiting for anyone to go to a self hosted webpage to view.

            /sigh
            that's ridiculous.

            Not really what is ridiculous is that there is no authentication mechanism in place. That is the fault of the maker

            Okay, fair enough.
            So when I think of accessing cameras anywhere i start thinking of "Ring" doorbells, Similar situation here?

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @WrCombs
              last edited by

              @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

              @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

              @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

              @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

              @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

              @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

              @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

              @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

              @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

              @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

              The homeowner could have also had UPNP enabled in their firewall allowing the hackers to gain direct access

              So you're saying that potentially their router had UPnP enabled and from there opened the port to the camera\security system?

              (sorry for the noob-ish question, Never heard of that until google told me what it was.)

              Yep tons of shitty consumer stuff does that

              but for why?

              Because they are there to sell shitty consumer cameras "accessible from anywhere in the world".

              Via an RTSP feed directly from the device. . .

              which also means that anyone with half a brain in cyber security can get into your cameras just as well. ...

              Don't even need that much. The feed is literally just sitting out on the open internet waiting for anyone to go to a self hosted webpage to view.

              /sigh
              that's ridiculous.

              Not really what is ridiculous is that there is no authentication mechanism in place. That is the fault of the maker

              Okay, fair enough.
              So when I think of accessing cameras anywhere i start thinking of "Ring" doorbells, Similar situation here?

              Ring and Nest generally have authentication.

              This person was just a jackass and ignored all of it.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @WrCombs
                last edited by

                @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                The homeowner could have also had UPNP enabled in their firewall allowing the hackers to gain direct access

                So you're saying that potentially their router had UPnP enabled and from there opened the port to the camera\security system?

                (sorry for the noob-ish question, Never heard of that until google told me what it was.)

                Yep tons of shitty consumer stuff does that

                but for why?

                Because they are there to sell shitty consumer cameras "accessible from anywhere in the world".

                Via an RTSP feed directly from the device. . .

                which also means that anyone with half a brain in cyber security can get into your cameras just as well. ...

                Don't even need that much. The feed is literally just sitting out on the open internet waiting for anyone to go to a self hosted webpage to view.

                /sigh
                that's ridiculous.

                Not really what is ridiculous is that there is no authentication mechanism in place. That is the fault of the maker

                Okay, fair enough.
                So when I think of accessing cameras anywhere i start thinking of "Ring" doorbells, Similar situation here?

                There definitely could be, but I do not believe that the ring video doorbell uses there definitely could be, but I do not believe that the ring video doorbell uses P UPNP To open any ports on your firewall.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                  @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                  @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                  @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                  @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                  @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                  @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                  @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                  @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                  The homeowner could have also had UPNP enabled in their firewall allowing the hackers to gain direct access

                  So you're saying that potentially their router had UPnP enabled and from there opened the port to the camera\security system?

                  (sorry for the noob-ish question, Never heard of that until google told me what it was.)

                  Yep tons of shitty consumer stuff does that

                  but for why?

                  Because they are there to sell shitty consumer cameras "accessible from anywhere in the world".

                  Via an RTSP feed directly from the device. . .

                  which also means that anyone with half a brain in cyber security can get into your cameras just as well. ...

                  Don't even need that much. The feed is literally just sitting out on the open internet waiting for anyone to go to a self hosted webpage to view.

                  /sigh
                  that's ridiculous.

                  Not really what is ridiculous is that there is no authentication mechanism in place. That is the fault of the maker

                  Okay, fair enough.
                  So when I think of accessing cameras anywhere i start thinking of "Ring" doorbells, Similar situation here?

                  Ring and Nest generally have authentication.

                  This person was just a jackass and ignored all of it.

                  Lol, Nest was one of the big companies that had huge security feelings a few years ago. I don’t care that google owns them I will never trust them.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                    @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                    @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                    @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                    @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                    @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                    @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                    @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                    @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                    The homeowner could have also had UPNP enabled in their firewall allowing the hackers to gain direct access

                    So you're saying that potentially their router had UPnP enabled and from there opened the port to the camera\security system?

                    (sorry for the noob-ish question, Never heard of that until google told me what it was.)

                    Yep tons of shitty consumer stuff does that

                    but for why?

                    Because they are there to sell shitty consumer cameras "accessible from anywhere in the world".

                    Via an RTSP feed directly from the device. . .

                    which also means that anyone with half a brain in cyber security can get into your cameras just as well. ...

                    Don't even need that much. The feed is literally just sitting out on the open internet waiting for anyone to go to a self hosted webpage to view.

                    /sigh
                    that's ridiculous.

                    Not really what is ridiculous is that there is no authentication mechanism in place. That is the fault of the maker

                    Okay, fair enough.
                    So when I think of accessing cameras anywhere i start thinking of "Ring" doorbells, Similar situation here?

                    Ring and Nest generally have authentication.

                    This person was just a jackass and ignored all of it.

                    Lol, Nest was one of the big companies that had huge security feelings a few years ago. I don’t care that google Alphabet owns them I will never trust them.

                    I've FTFY.

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                    • WrCombsW
                      WrCombs @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                      @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                      @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                      @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                      @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                      @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                      @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                      @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                      @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                      @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                      The homeowner could have also had UPNP enabled in their firewall allowing the hackers to gain direct access

                      So you're saying that potentially their router had UPnP enabled and from there opened the port to the camera\security system?

                      (sorry for the noob-ish question, Never heard of that until google told me what it was.)

                      Yep tons of shitty consumer stuff does that

                      but for why?

                      Because they are there to sell shitty consumer cameras "accessible from anywhere in the world".

                      Via an RTSP feed directly from the device. . .

                      which also means that anyone with half a brain in cyber security can get into your cameras just as well. ...

                      Don't even need that much. The feed is literally just sitting out on the open internet waiting for anyone to go to a self hosted webpage to view.

                      /sigh
                      that's ridiculous.

                      Not really what is ridiculous is that there is no authentication mechanism in place. That is the fault of the maker

                      Okay, fair enough.
                      So when I think of accessing cameras anywhere i start thinking of "Ring" doorbells, Similar situation here?

                      Ring and Nest generally have authentication.

                      This person was just a jackass and ignored all of it.

                      Lol, Nest was one of the big companies that had huge security feelings a few years ago. I don’t care that google Alphabet owns them I will never trust them.

                      I've FTFY.

                      Fixed what?
                      Wtf is Alphabet 🤣

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @WrCombs
                        last edited by

                        @WrCombs the new parent company of Google.

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                        • WrCombsW
                          WrCombs @DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                          @WrCombs the new parent company of Google.

                          Google got bought out then?

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @WrCombs
                            last edited by

                            @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                            @WrCombs the new parent company of Google.

                            Google got bought out then?

                            No.

                            They formed a new umbrella and everything "google" is now under that umbrella company Alphabet.

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                            • WrCombsW
                              WrCombs @DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                              @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                              @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                              @WrCombs the new parent company of Google.

                              Google got bought out then?

                              No.

                              They formed a new umbrella and everything "google" is now under that umbrella company Alphabet.

                              i just skimmed this :

                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Alphabet

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                @WrCombs the new parent company of Google.

                                "New", it's been a while.

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                                • WrCombsW
                                  WrCombs @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                  @WrCombs the new parent company of Google.

                                  "New", it's been a while.

                                  how long is a " While"

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @WrCombs
                                    last edited by

                                    @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                    @WrCombs the new parent company of Google.

                                    "New", it's been a while.

                                    how long is a " While"

                                    1. An eternity in IT terms.
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                                    • WrCombsW
                                      WrCombs @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                      @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                      @WrCombs the new parent company of Google.

                                      "New", it's been a while.

                                      how long is a " While"

                                      1. An eternity in IT terms.

                                      3 years is a pretty long time, id say.
                                      Was curious cause i've seen people say a while and only mean a few days/months tops.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @WrCombs
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                                        @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                        @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                        @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                        @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                        @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                        The homeowner could have also had UPNP enabled in their firewall allowing the hackers to gain direct access

                                        So you're saying that potentially their router had UPnP enabled and from there opened the port to the camera\security system?

                                        (sorry for the noob-ish question, Never heard of that until google told me what it was.)

                                        Yep tons of shitty consumer stuff does that

                                        but for why?

                                        Because they are there to sell shitty consumer cameras "accessible from anywhere in the world".

                                        Via an RTSP feed directly from the device. . .

                                        which also means that anyone with half a brain incyber security can get into your cameras just as well. ...

                                        Edit
                                        that's the most idiotic thing I've ever heard.

                                        https://www.shodan.io/

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                                        • WrCombsW
                                          WrCombs @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          @JaredBusch said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                          @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                          @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                          @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                          @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                          @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                          The homeowner could have also had UPNP enabled in their firewall allowing the hackers to gain direct access

                                          So you're saying that potentially their router had UPnP enabled and from there opened the port to the camera\security system?

                                          (sorry for the noob-ish question, Never heard of that until google told me what it was.)

                                          Yep tons of shitty consumer stuff does that

                                          but for why?

                                          Because they are there to sell shitty consumer cameras "accessible from anywhere in the world".

                                          Via an RTSP feed directly from the device. . .

                                          which also means that anyone with half a brain incyber security can get into your cameras just as well. ...

                                          Edit
                                          that's the most idiotic thing I've ever heard.

                                          https://www.shodan.io/

                                          They created a website to look for these items?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                            @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                            @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                            @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                            @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                            @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                            @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                            The homeowner could have also had UPNP enabled in their firewall allowing the hackers to gain direct access

                                            So you're saying that potentially their router had UPnP enabled and from there opened the port to the camera\security system?

                                            (sorry for the noob-ish question, Never heard of that until google told me what it was.)

                                            Yep tons of shitty consumer stuff does that

                                            but for why?

                                            Because they are there to sell shitty consumer cameras "accessible from anywhere in the world".

                                            Via an RTSP feed directly from the device. . .

                                            which also means that anyone with half a brain in cyber security can get into your cameras just as well. ...

                                            Don't even need that much. The feed is literally just sitting out on the open internet waiting for anyone to go to a self hosted webpage to view.

                                            /sigh
                                            that's ridiculous.

                                            Not really what is ridiculous is that there is no authentication mechanism in place. That is the fault of the maker

                                            But there is, even two factor!

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