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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

      @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

      Moving to an alternative system whole sale would be a minimum of $100/phone - $12,200 + power bricks or POE switches for buildings 1(2 switches at $850/ea) and 3 (1 switch at $400).

      That $100 would get you a Yealink T42S + power brick, easily. That is Amazon pricing. You can likely find lower cost by getting into distribution channels.

      Yeah, T42S comes with the power brick for under $100! All in one box.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
        last edited by

        @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

        Yealink T42S

        The SIP-T21P is likely more in the price range he'll be able to afford once this comes through.

        Only $46.99

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          And that's if you need high end phones. If you are coming from digital phones, you might not want to go so nice.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

            And that's if you need high end phones. If you are coming from digital phones, you might not want to go so nice.

            Unless he can convince people to change call parking, he will need buttons.
            I've been down this road with him twice.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

              @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

              @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

              Moving to an alternative system whole sale would be a minimum of $100/phone - $12,200 + power bricks or POE switches for buildings 1(2 switches at $850/ea) and 3 (1 switch at $400).

              That $100 would get you a Yealink T42S + power brick, easily. That is Amazon pricing. You can likely find lower cost by getting into distribution channels.

              Yeah, T42S comes with the power brick for under $100! All in one box.

              I know of no T4 series phone sthat ship with a power brick.

              Telephony Depot has this. I created an account with them ages ago for a client. It does seem they only want resellers now though. So /shrug.
              94e3104e-9fc7-4739-8295-6dabd015d299-image.png

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                last edited by

                @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                Moving to an alternative system whole sale would be a minimum of $100/phone - $12,200 + power bricks or POE switches for buildings 1(2 switches at $850/ea) and 3 (1 switch at $400).

                That $100 would get you a Yealink T42S + power brick, easily. That is Amazon pricing. You can likely find lower cost by getting into distribution channels.

                Yeah, T42S comes with the power brick for under $100! All in one box.

                I know of no T4 series phone sthat ship with a power brick.

                Telephony Depot has this. I created an account with them ages ago for a client. It does seem they only want resellers now though. So /shrug.
                94e3104e-9fc7-4739-8295-6dabd015d299-image.png

                We get them from PCM with the bricks included. @ysapir

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                  @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                  Yealink T42S

                  The SIP-T21P is likely more in the price range he'll be able to afford once this comes through.

                  Only $46.99

                  Those are the old model. While not EOL yet, most of the rest of that design has been EOL.

                  The current base model is the T40G, IMO. There is a T19P-E2 for a single line, no button phone.

                  The T41S is the non-gigbit version of the T42S.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                    @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                    @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                    @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                    @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                    Moving to an alternative system whole sale would be a minimum of $100/phone - $12,200 + power bricks or POE switches for buildings 1(2 switches at $850/ea) and 3 (1 switch at $400).

                    That $100 would get you a Yealink T42S + power brick, easily. That is Amazon pricing. You can likely find lower cost by getting into distribution channels.

                    Yeah, T42S comes with the power brick for under $100! All in one box.

                    I know of no T4 series phone sthat ship with a power brick.

                    Telephony Depot has this. I created an account with them ages ago for a client. It does seem they only want resellers now though. So /shrug.
                    94e3104e-9fc7-4739-8295-6dabd015d299-image.png

                    We get them from PCM with the bricks included. @ysapir

                    Are they adding it 3rd party (themselves)? I have never seen a SKU from Yealink that includes the power brick.
                    Yeah, I'm not in distribution, but still.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                      The biggest issue most businesses have is the "but I have phones already, can't we just use it"?

                      So I'd imagine you'll have a battle to get that $12,200

                      No - the sunk cost thing really isn't the issue this time.

                      I have to spend $10K to update my old shit - or spent $14,300'ish to get all new...

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                        @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                        Yealink T42S

                        The SIP-T21P is likely more in the price range he'll be able to afford once this comes through.

                        Only $46.99

                        There is not an afford thing here. The doctors likely wouldn't want us to use the shittiest little phones... spending more is OK... $100/phone would be pretty easy spend.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                          @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                          @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                          @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                          @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                          @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                          Moving to an alternative system whole sale would be a minimum of $100/phone - $12,200 + power bricks or POE switches for buildings 1(2 switches at $850/ea) and 3 (1 switch at $400).

                          That $100 would get you a Yealink T42S + power brick, easily. That is Amazon pricing. You can likely find lower cost by getting into distribution channels.

                          Yeah, T42S comes with the power brick for under $100! All in one box.

                          I know of no T4 series phone sthat ship with a power brick.

                          Telephony Depot has this. I created an account with them ages ago for a client. It does seem they only want resellers now though. So /shrug.
                          94e3104e-9fc7-4739-8295-6dabd015d299-image.png

                          We get them from PCM with the bricks included. @ysapir

                          Are they adding it 3rd party (themselves)? I have never seen a SKU from Yealink that includes the power brick.
                          Yeah, I'm not in distribution, but still.

                          No, it's just part of the SKU.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                            @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                            The biggest issue most businesses have is the "but I have phones already, can't we just use it"?

                            So I'd imagine you'll have a battle to get that $12,200

                            No - the sunk cost thing really isn't the issue this time.

                            I have to spend $10K to update my old shit - or spent $14,300'ish to get all new...

                            Is $14,300 realistic? What's generating the last bit over the handsets, the gateways?

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                              And that's if you need high end phones. If you are coming from digital phones, you might not want to go so nice.

                              Our digital phones are crazy with buttons.. granted we don't use/need them... but moving to a phone that is super stark in comparison would be a moral killer - there is at least a tiny bit of value in that.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                Yealink T42S

                                The SIP-T21P is likely more in the price range he'll be able to afford once this comes through.

                                Only $46.99

                                There is not an afford thing here. The doctors likely wouldn't want us to use the shittiest little phones... spending more is OK... $100/phone would be pretty easy spend.

                                BUT they are okay with embarrassingly old shitty phones now. So that makes no sense. By that logic, they'd go to full VoIP right now for that very reason alone.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                  @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                  @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                  Yealink T42S

                                  The SIP-T21P is likely more in the price range he'll be able to afford once this comes through.

                                  Only $46.99

                                  There is not an afford thing here. The doctors likely wouldn't want us to use the shittiest little phones... spending more is OK... $100/phone would be pretty easy spend.

                                  BUT they are okay with embarrassingly old shitty phones now. So that makes no sense. By that logic, they'd go to full VoIP right now for that very reason alone.

                                  How do you know what phones are in place today?

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                    @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                    @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                    Moving to an alternative system whole sale would be a minimum of $100/phone - $12,200 + power bricks or POE switches for buildings 1(2 switches at $850/ea) and 3 (1 switch at $400).

                                    That $100 would get you a Yealink T42S + power brick, easily. That is Amazon pricing. You can likely find lower cost by getting into distribution channels.

                                    Yeah, T42S comes with the power brick for under $100! All in one box.

                                    I know of no T4 series phone sthat ship with a power brick.

                                    Telephony Depot has this. I created an account with them ages ago for a client. It does seem they only want resellers now though. So /shrug.
                                    94e3104e-9fc7-4739-8295-6dabd015d299-image.png

                                    I really don't want power bricks - and I'm not sure that would be acceptable anyhow.

                                    Which brings up another question - which phones must work during a power outage? Currently they ALL work because they are on UPS for POE/VOIP phones, or UPS on the digital system - at least as long as the battery is good - about 20 mins.

                                    So the business could decide a smaller UPS and specific phones - or everything goes POE.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                      @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                      @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                      Yealink T42S

                                      The SIP-T21P is likely more in the price range he'll be able to afford once this comes through.

                                      Only $46.99

                                      There is not an afford thing here. The doctors likely wouldn't want us to use the shittiest little phones... spending more is OK... $100/phone would be pretty easy spend.

                                      BUT they are okay with embarrassingly old shitty phones now. So that makes no sense. By that logic, they'd go to full VoIP right now for that very reason alone.

                                      How do you know what phones are in place today?

                                      nvm

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                        @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                        @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                        @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                        Moving to an alternative system whole sale would be a minimum of $100/phone - $12,200 + power bricks or POE switches for buildings 1(2 switches at $850/ea) and 3 (1 switch at $400).

                                        That $100 would get you a Yealink T42S + power brick, easily. That is Amazon pricing. You can likely find lower cost by getting into distribution channels.

                                        Yeah, T42S comes with the power brick for under $100! All in one box.

                                        I know of no T4 series phone sthat ship with a power brick.

                                        Telephony Depot has this. I created an account with them ages ago for a client. It does seem they only want resellers now though. So /shrug.
                                        94e3104e-9fc7-4739-8295-6dabd015d299-image.png

                                        I really don't want power bricks - and I'm not sure that would be acceptable anyhow.

                                        Which brings up another question - which phones must work during a power outage? Currently they ALL work because they are on UPS for POE/VOIP phones, or UPS on the digital system - at least as long as the battery is good - about 20 mins.

                                        So the business could decide a smaller UPS and specific phones - or everything goes POE.

                                        Or you get a softphone and install that on everyone's mobile.

                                        Would work without power directly attached to the phone.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                          @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                          The biggest issue most businesses have is the "but I have phones already, can't we just use it"?

                                          So I'd imagine you'll have a battle to get that $12,200

                                          No - the sunk cost thing really isn't the issue this time.

                                          I have to spend $10K to update my old shit - or spent $14,300'ish to get all new...

                                          Is $14,300 realistic? What's generating the last bit over the handsets, the gateways?

                                          The POE switches.
                                          As just noted - I'd also need more UPS to cover power outage times - even if only for dedicated phones.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                            @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                            @JaredBusch said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                            @Dashrender said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

                                            Moving to an alternative system whole sale would be a minimum of $100/phone - $12,200 + power bricks or POE switches for buildings 1(2 switches at $850/ea) and 3 (1 switch at $400).

                                            That $100 would get you a Yealink T42S + power brick, easily. That is Amazon pricing. You can likely find lower cost by getting into distribution channels.

                                            Yeah, T42S comes with the power brick for under $100! All in one box.

                                            I know of no T4 series phone sthat ship with a power brick.

                                            Telephony Depot has this. I created an account with them ages ago for a client. It does seem they only want resellers now though. So /shrug.
                                            94e3104e-9fc7-4739-8295-6dabd015d299-image.png

                                            I really don't want power bricks - and I'm not sure that would be acceptable anyhow.

                                            Which brings up another question - which phones must work during a power outage? Currently they ALL work because they are on UPS for POE/VOIP phones, or UPS on the digital system - at least as long as the battery is good - about 20 mins.

                                            So the business could decide a smaller UPS and specific phones - or everything goes POE.

                                            Correct. It is simply a business call. Granted it is not a huge cost difference to get poe switches compare to power bricks when not included. And since you will certainly have many on UPS for survivability, the cost difference isn’t even very import because you need the PoE anyway.

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