Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens
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@JaredBusch said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@scottalanmiller said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
OK so,
- Install an Operating System
- Remote Access that OS - SSH - RDP
- Maybe setup a webserver? IDK about that one. Will have to think of the usefulness of it.
I would say extremely useful. You learn how the parts work, and why they exist.
Useful to the house (me)
not useful as in a means of learning FFS, how would setting it up not be useful to learning how it works?
Is that not the point of setting it up.
I see your sourbread panties are pointed in my direction now.
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@JaredBusch said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@WrCombs said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
OK so,
- Install an Operating System
- Remote Access that OS - SSH - RDP
- Maybe setup a webserver? IDK about that one. Will have to think of the usefulness of it.
you could also buy some old Clunker PC's and break stuff and have them fix it ?
Real practice
That is specifically not IT in any way.
How is that not?
Is Desktop support Not part of entry Level IT?
Do you know how to fix everything on a computer being an IT Pro?
How would that not be helpful in the idea of- Troubleshooting
- Basic\Potential issue they May run into on the job
- Gain Confidence as teenagers in the IT field learning on the job as they go
you're telling me its not specific to IT, But would it not hold value to them?
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@WrCombs Well this is break/fix tech. So I kind of agree with @JaredBusch here.
It's extremely low skill level required in that "remove this and put this in place of it".
There would be no diagnostics in that case, and I'm not really wanting to get into a "break/fix" scenario with em.
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I would think of lab things you don't have the time for and have the teens do it. For example I dont have time to set up Plex, but good project for a lab? Probably
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@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@WrCombs Well this is break/fix tech. So I kind of agree with @JaredBusch here.
It's extremely low skill level required in that "remove this and put this in place of it".
There would be no diagnostics in that case, and I'm not really wanting to get into a "break/fix" scenario with em.
Fair enough
IMO i think it has some benefit, but I get what you guys are saying. -
PacketTracer is a nice simulator tool to learn setting up a network.
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@WrCombs said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@JaredBusch said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@WrCombs said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
OK so,
- Install an Operating System
- Remote Access that OS - SSH - RDP
- Maybe setup a webserver? IDK about that one. Will have to think of the usefulness of it.
you could also buy some old Clunker PC's and break stuff and have them fix it ?
Real practice
That is specifically not IT in any way.
How is that not?
Is Desktop support Not part of entry Level IT?
Do you know how to fix everything on a computer being an IT Pro?
How would that not be helpful in the idea of- Troubleshooting
- Basic\Potential issue they May run into on the job
- Gain Confidence as teenagers in the IT field learning on the job as they go
you're telling me its not specific to IT, But would it not hold value to them?
It's definitely not IT, it is bench (think GeekSquad.) Is knowing some bench useful to some IT people? Sure. But it also can be confusing, misleading, a waste of time, or discouraging. So you have to be careful.
Working on assembling hardware is not desktop support. Desktop support is IT, but doesn't do this stuff. GeekSquad doesn't do desktop support. They sell desktops, they sell desktop parts, but they don't do the IT field of desktop support.
You don't really troubleshoot in a bench mode. You replace. You tend to get some of your worst habits here from IT people who started in bench and didn't learn how to see it as different.
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@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@WrCombs Well this is break/fix tech. So I kind of agree with @JaredBusch here.
It's extremely low skill level required in that "remove this and put this in place of it".
There would be no diagnostics in that case, and I'm not really wanting to get into a "break/fix" scenario with em.
And in the real world, you generally don't have this at all. You call your vendor and they just replace the whole thing. It's not worth it for them, even with all of their parts and testing potential, to do that in the field.
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I'd set up a Plex server in the past but it didn't have any media to put on it and therefore just tore down might be worthwhile maybe I can find some media to digitize and put on there
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@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
I'd set up a Plex server in the past but it didn't have any media to put on it and therefore just tore down might be worthwhile maybe I can find some media to digitize and put on there
I bought an external tuner and attached my plex to that.
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Pi-Hole for home.
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@scottalanmiller said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
Pi-Hole for home.
I already have that up and running.
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Home PBX
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@scottalanmiller said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
Home PBX
I was definitely considering setting up a home PBX but I don't know if I want to subscribe to any actual phone numbers
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@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@scottalanmiller said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
Home PBX
I was definitely considering setting up a home PBX but I don't know if I want to subscribe to any actual phone numbers
You can learn a lot without doing that. Although voip.ms makes it SO cheap.
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@scottalanmiller said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@scottalanmiller said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
Home PBX
I was definitely considering setting up a home PBX but I don't know if I want to subscribe to any actual phone numbers
You can learn a lot without doing that. Although voip.ms makes it SO cheap.
And you can make calls without buying a phone number at all. Just pay per use.
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@JaredBusch said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@scottalanmiller said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@scottalanmiller said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
Home PBX
I was definitely considering setting up a home PBX but I don't know if I want to subscribe to any actual phone numbers
You can learn a lot without doing that. Although voip.ms makes it SO cheap.
And you can make calls without buying a phone number at all. Just pay per use.
What option is that? I don't recall seeing that (granted this was some time ago)
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Oh I just had an idea, set urbackup server and backup my vms that are on KVM.
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@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@JaredBusch said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@scottalanmiller said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@DustinB3403 said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
@scottalanmiller said in Home lab projects - for Middle aged teens:
Home PBX
I was definitely considering setting up a home PBX but I don't know if I want to subscribe to any actual phone numbers
You can learn a lot without doing that. Although voip.ms makes it SO cheap.
And you can make calls without buying a phone number at all. Just pay per use.
What option is that? I don't recall seeing that (granted this was some time ago)
VoIP.ms has never required purchasing a number to have an account and setup a trunk.
You simply have no way to receive calls from the PSTN.
