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    • DonahueD
      Donahue
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      Ok, DHCP is switched over. It's currently just pointing the DNS to the existing DNS servers.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @Donahue
        last edited by

        @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

        Ok, DHCP is switched over. It's currently just pointing the DNS to the existing DNS servers.

        Right. Now you can work on setting up your DHCP reservation, and migrating all the static IP junk to reservations.

        Once that is done, you can work towards changing DNS.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

          @Dashrender said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

          @scottalanmiller said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

          @Dashrender said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

          @JaredBusch said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

          @scottalanmiller said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

          @JaredBusch said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

          @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

          its the device or user making the request to the DNS service.

          The only device making a request to the Windows DNS service is the other DNS server.

          Correct, but that's not the basis for the licensing requirement. Anything that uses that DNS downstream is getting it from an "agregator" to the Windows service and therefore needs the CAL.

          If that is the actual term of theri license, then, yet another reason to move on to this with the target of getting to no AD agian.

          I don't think you need to be that dramatic.

          You can manage two networks - one for Windows stuff - that's all licensed up, and another for everything else (or possibly two others - one corporate and one guest). the other networks of course would use non windows services to service devices/users.

          Can, but it is very difficult to do and a huge pain.

          It's not that difficult to setup two networks - but I'll agree it's a pain managing it, mainly because you have to manage it, not because it would be that difficult.

          It is most of the effort of running two companies and maintaining two skill sets. It is nearly a doubling of the effort of just running one.

          I do this right now for my guest network... and so does just about anyone else out there who have completely separate networks for guests.

          Is it crazy to do this for the corporate side - yeah I think so, but I also think percentage wise it's pretty low the amount of companies that have many times the number of employees compared to endpoint devices to the point where you wouldn't just CAL every user to even make this an issue.

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          • DonahueD
            Donahue @JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @JaredBusch said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

            @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

            Ok, DHCP is switched over. It's currently just pointing the DNS to the existing DNS servers.

            Right. Now you can work on setting up your DHCP reservation, and migrating all the static IP junk to reservations.

            Once that is done, you can work towards changing DNS.

            yeah, that will take awhile.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @Donahue
              last edited by

              @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

              @JaredBusch said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

              @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

              Ok, DHCP is switched over. It's currently just pointing the DNS to the existing DNS servers.

              Right. Now you can work on setting up your DHCP reservation, and migrating all the static IP junk to reservations.

              Once that is done, you can work towards changing DNS.

              yeah, that will take awhile.

              really? Your DHCP server doesn't have an option to just add an existing lease to the reservation table?

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              • DonahueD
                Donahue @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                @JaredBusch said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                Ok, DHCP is switched over. It's currently just pointing the DNS to the existing DNS servers.

                Right. Now you can work on setting up your DHCP reservation, and migrating all the static IP junk to reservations.

                Once that is done, you can work towards changing DNS.

                yeah, that will take awhile.

                really? Your DHCP server doesn't have an option to just add an existing lease to the reservation table?

                It's easy to create reservations. It's another thing entirely to migrate over devices from static to DHCP, while also changing their ip.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @Donahue
                  last edited by

                  @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                  @Dashrender said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                  @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                  @JaredBusch said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                  @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                  Ok, DHCP is switched over. It's currently just pointing the DNS to the existing DNS servers.

                  Right. Now you can work on setting up your DHCP reservation, and migrating all the static IP junk to reservations.

                  Once that is done, you can work towards changing DNS.

                  yeah, that will take awhile.

                  really? Your DHCP server doesn't have an option to just add an existing lease to the reservation table?

                  It's easy to create reservations. It's another thing entirely to migrate over devices from static to DHCP, while also changing their ip.

                  aww - well, that's definitely true!

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @Donahue
                    last edited by

                    @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                    @Dashrender said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                    @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                    @JaredBusch said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                    @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                    Ok, DHCP is switched over. It's currently just pointing the DNS to the existing DNS servers.

                    Right. Now you can work on setting up your DHCP reservation, and migrating all the static IP junk to reservations.

                    Once that is done, you can work towards changing DNS.

                    yeah, that will take awhile.

                    really? Your DHCP server doesn't have an option to just add an existing lease to the reservation table?

                    It's easy to create reservations. It's another thing entirely to migrate over devices from static to DHCP, while also changing their ip.

                    You could just create reservations in the new DHCP server and have the existing windows DHCP server not renew requests.

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                    • DonahueD
                      Donahue @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @DustinB3403 said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                      @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                      @Dashrender said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                      @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                      @JaredBusch said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                      @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                      Ok, DHCP is switched over. It's currently just pointing the DNS to the existing DNS servers.

                      Right. Now you can work on setting up your DHCP reservation, and migrating all the static IP junk to reservations.

                      Once that is done, you can work towards changing DNS.

                      yeah, that will take awhile.

                      really? Your DHCP server doesn't have an option to just add an existing lease to the reservation table?

                      It's easy to create reservations. It's another thing entirely to migrate over devices from static to DHCP, while also changing their ip.

                      You could just create reservations in the new DHCP server and have the existing windows DHCP server not renew requests.

                      I think you missed the point.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @DustinB3403 said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                        @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                        @Dashrender said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                        @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                        @JaredBusch said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                        @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                        Ok, DHCP is switched over. It's currently just pointing the DNS to the existing DNS servers.

                        Right. Now you can work on setting up your DHCP reservation, and migrating all the static IP junk to reservations.

                        Once that is done, you can work towards changing DNS.

                        yeah, that will take awhile.

                        really? Your DHCP server doesn't have an option to just add an existing lease to the reservation table?

                        It's easy to create reservations. It's another thing entirely to migrate over devices from static to DHCP, while also changing their ip.

                        You could just create reservations in the new DHCP server and have the existing windows DHCP server not renew requests.

                        He's changing static IP'ed devices to DHCP with reservations.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                          @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                          @Dashrender said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                          @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                          @JaredBusch said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                          @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                          Ok, DHCP is switched over. It's currently just pointing the DNS to the existing DNS servers.

                          Right. Now you can work on setting up your DHCP reservation, and migrating all the static IP junk to reservations.

                          Once that is done, you can work towards changing DNS.

                          yeah, that will take awhile.

                          really? Your DHCP server doesn't have an option to just add an existing lease to the reservation table?

                          It's easy to create reservations. It's another thing entirely to migrate over devices from static to DHCP, while also changing their ip.

                          You could just create reservations in the new DHCP server and have the existing windows DHCP server not renew requests.

                          He's changing static IP'ed devices to DHCP with reservations.

                          Are you agreeing with me or stating something Donohue is doing?

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                          • DonahueD
                            Donahue @DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            @DustinB3403 said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                            @Dashrender said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                            @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                            @Dashrender said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                            @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                            @JaredBusch said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                            @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                            Ok, DHCP is switched over. It's currently just pointing the DNS to the existing DNS servers.

                            Right. Now you can work on setting up your DHCP reservation, and migrating all the static IP junk to reservations.

                            Once that is done, you can work towards changing DNS.

                            yeah, that will take awhile.

                            really? Your DHCP server doesn't have an option to just add an existing lease to the reservation table?

                            It's easy to create reservations. It's another thing entirely to migrate over devices from static to DHCP, while also changing their ip.

                            You could just create reservations in the new DHCP server and have the existing windows DHCP server not renew requests.

                            He's changing static IP'ed devices to DHCP with reservations.

                            Are you agreeing with me or stating something Donohue is doing?

                            he's telling you what I need to do.

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                              travisdh1
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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @Donahue
                                last edited by

                                @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                @Dashrender said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                @Dashrender said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                @JaredBusch said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                Ok, DHCP is switched over. It's currently just pointing the DNS to the existing DNS servers.

                                Right. Now you can work on setting up your DHCP reservation, and migrating all the static IP junk to reservations.

                                Once that is done, you can work towards changing DNS.

                                yeah, that will take awhile.

                                really? Your DHCP server doesn't have an option to just add an existing lease to the reservation table?

                                It's easy to create reservations. It's another thing entirely to migrate over devices from static to DHCP, while also changing their ip.

                                You could just create reservations in the new DHCP server and have the existing windows DHCP server not renew requests.

                                He's changing static IP'ed devices to DHCP with reservations.

                                Are you agreeing with me or stating something Donohue is doing?

                                he's telling you what I need to do.

                                I think you missed my point.

                                You can create a reservation on the new DHCP server and have it waiting, turn off the old DHCP server. Then just go to the clients and set them to DHCP.

                                Walah, reservations active.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                  @Dashrender said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                  @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                  @Dashrender said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                  @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                  @JaredBusch said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                  @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                  Ok, DHCP is switched over. It's currently just pointing the DNS to the existing DNS servers.

                                  Right. Now you can work on setting up your DHCP reservation, and migrating all the static IP junk to reservations.

                                  Once that is done, you can work towards changing DNS.

                                  yeah, that will take awhile.

                                  really? Your DHCP server doesn't have an option to just add an existing lease to the reservation table?

                                  It's easy to create reservations. It's another thing entirely to migrate over devices from static to DHCP, while also changing their ip.

                                  You could just create reservations in the new DHCP server and have the existing windows DHCP server not renew requests.

                                  He's changing static IP'ed devices to DHCP with reservations.

                                  Are you agreeing with me or stating something Donohue is doing?

                                  Here he says

                                  @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                  migrate over devices from static to DHCP, while also changing their ip.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                    @Dashrender said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                    @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                    @Dashrender said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                    @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                    @JaredBusch said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                    @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                    Ok, DHCP is switched over. It's currently just pointing the DNS to the existing DNS servers.

                                    Right. Now you can work on setting up your DHCP reservation, and migrating all the static IP junk to reservations.

                                    Once that is done, you can work towards changing DNS.

                                    yeah, that will take awhile.

                                    really? Your DHCP server doesn't have an option to just add an existing lease to the reservation table?

                                    It's easy to create reservations. It's another thing entirely to migrate over devices from static to DHCP, while also changing their ip.

                                    You could just create reservations in the new DHCP server and have the existing windows DHCP server not renew requests.

                                    He's changing static IP'ed devices to DHCP with reservations.

                                    Are you agreeing with me or stating something Donohue is doing?

                                    Here he says

                                    @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                    migrate over devices from static to DHCP, while also changing their ip.

                                    Again, that has nothing to do with the creation of Reservations on a new DHCP server. (presumably with a different scope).

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                      @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                      @Dashrender said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                      @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                      @Dashrender said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                      @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                      @JaredBusch said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                      @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                      Ok, DHCP is switched over. It's currently just pointing the DNS to the existing DNS servers.

                                      Right. Now you can work on setting up your DHCP reservation, and migrating all the static IP junk to reservations.

                                      Once that is done, you can work towards changing DNS.

                                      yeah, that will take awhile.

                                      really? Your DHCP server doesn't have an option to just add an existing lease to the reservation table?

                                      It's easy to create reservations. It's another thing entirely to migrate over devices from static to DHCP, while also changing their ip.

                                      You could just create reservations in the new DHCP server and have the existing windows DHCP server not renew requests.

                                      He's changing static IP'ed devices to DHCP with reservations.

                                      Are you agreeing with me or stating something Donohue is doing?

                                      he's telling you what I need to do.

                                      I think you missed my point.

                                      You can create a reservation on the new DHCP server and have it waiting, turn off the old DHCP server. Then just go to the clients and set them to DHCP.

                                      Walah, reservations active.

                                      OK sure, that's true - but he also has to change all of the things that point to the old IP to point to the new one - or at least point to a DNS name if he wasn't using that before, which seems like he wasn't, otherwise the static or dynamic IP wouldn't matter.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                                        last edited by JaredBusch

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                        @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                        @Dashrender said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                        @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                        @Dashrender said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                        @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                        @JaredBusch said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                        @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                        Ok, DHCP is switched over. It's currently just pointing the DNS to the existing DNS servers.

                                        Right. Now you can work on setting up your DHCP reservation, and migrating all the static IP junk to reservations.

                                        Once that is done, you can work towards changing DNS.

                                        yeah, that will take awhile.

                                        really? Your DHCP server doesn't have an option to just add an existing lease to the reservation table?

                                        It's easy to create reservations. It's another thing entirely to migrate over devices from static to DHCP, while also changing their ip.

                                        You could just create reservations in the new DHCP server and have the existing windows DHCP server not renew requests.

                                        He's changing static IP'ed devices to DHCP with reservations.

                                        Are you agreeing with me or stating something Donohue is doing?

                                        he's telling you what I need to do.

                                        I think you missed my point.

                                        You can create a reservation on the new DHCP server and have it waiting, turn off the old DHCP server. Then just go to the clients and set them to DHCP.

                                        Walah, reservations active.

                                        DHCP has nothing to do with it.. FFS....

                                        He has all the devices (well a lot) with static IP addresses.. Having any DHCP server running, Windows or otherwise, does not affect how long it will take him to update all those devices.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          @JaredBusch said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                          @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                          @Dashrender said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                          @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                          @Dashrender said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                          @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                          @JaredBusch said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                          @Donahue said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                          Ok, DHCP is switched over. It's currently just pointing the DNS to the existing DNS servers.

                                          Right. Now you can work on setting up your DHCP reservation, and migrating all the static IP junk to reservations.

                                          Once that is done, you can work towards changing DNS.

                                          yeah, that will take awhile.

                                          really? Your DHCP server doesn't have an option to just add an existing lease to the reservation table?

                                          It's easy to create reservations. It's another thing entirely to migrate over devices from static to DHCP, while also changing their ip.

                                          You could just create reservations in the new DHCP server and have the existing windows DHCP server not renew requests.

                                          He's changing static IP'ed devices to DHCP with reservations.

                                          Are you agreeing with me or stating something Donohue is doing?

                                          he's telling you what I need to do.

                                          I think you missed my point.

                                          You can create a reservation on the new DHCP server and have it waiting, turn off the old DHCP server. Then just go to the clients and set them to DHCP.

                                          Walah, reservations active.

                                          DHCP has nothing to do with it.. FFS....

                                          He has all the devices (well a lot) with static IP addresses.. Having any DHCP server running, Windows or otherwise, does not affect how long it will take him to update all those devices.

                                          Or the things that point to them.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                            @DustinB3403 said in Where do I start with replacing the whole MS AD stack:

                                            Walah, reservations active.

                                            voilà 😉

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