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    • FATeknollogeeF
      FATeknollogee @Obsolesce
      last edited by

      @obsolesce said in NFS Server...what to build??:

      @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

      So you want to build an NFS Server to "share" files with other clients.

      What o/s would you base this build on...?
      Install o/s on bare metal or virtualize?

      HW is simple:

      • 2x SSD for o/s
      • 4 - xx SSD for NFS shares

      I set one up on Fedora Server to act as a storage repository for ReaR backups. I did it on a VM.

      Where is that blog post or it didn't happen? ..jk

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      • travisdh1T
        travisdh1 @FATeknollogee
        last edited by

        @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

        @travisdh1 said in NFS Server...what to build??:

        Well, first of all I wouldn't do a split array. OBR (One Big RAID), unless you have a very specific reason to do otherwise.

        Easy to do with my SM box, since it has 2x 2.5" sleds on the backside running off the onboard SATA.

        Just because it's easy to do, doesn't mean you should. Why not just get two more drives for the main array and not loose all that I/O by splitting things up? It's a serious loss of I/O as well when talking about an additional couple of SSDs!

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
          last edited by DustinB3403

          I like fedora, but I don't know if cutting edge tech is a requirement here. All he needs is a file server, centos would work well here.

          While Fedora is a great platform, being on the edge could encounter issues if he updated with a buggy release.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
            last edited by

            OBR5 made out of SSD would be perfectly fine, and expected. Splitting the arrays isn't a good idea.

            But also don't use consumer SSD and make sure you have some backup plan developed.

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            • ObsolesceO
              Obsolesce @FATeknollogee
              last edited by

              @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

              @obsolesce said in NFS Server...what to build??:

              @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

              So you want to build an NFS Server to "share" files with other clients.

              What o/s would you base this build on...?
              Install o/s on bare metal or virtualize?

              HW is simple:

              • 2x SSD for o/s
              • 4 - xx SSD for NFS shares

              I set one up on Fedora Server to act as a storage repository for ReaR backups. I did it on a VM.

              Where is that blog post or it didn't happen? ..jk

              I thought I did... Or didn't publish it. I'll check later. I lost track

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              • black3dynamiteB
                black3dynamite @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @dustinb3403 said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                I like fedora, but I don't know if cutting edge tech is a requirement here. All he needs is a file server, centos would work well here.

                While Fedora is a great platform, being on the edge could encounter issues if he updated with a buggy release.

                I assume using Fedora instead CentOS would be best if you were wanted to take advantage of NFS v4.
                If only using NFS v3, I would probably use CentOS.

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                • FATeknollogeeF
                  FATeknollogee @travisdh1
                  last edited by

                  @travisdh1 said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                  @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                  @travisdh1 said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                  Well, first of all I wouldn't do a split array. OBR (One Big RAID), unless you have a very specific reason to do otherwise.

                  Easy to do with my SM box, since it has 2x 2.5" sleds on the backside running off the onboard SATA.

                  Just because it's easy to do, doesn't mean you should. Why not just get two more drives for the main array and not loose all that I/O by splitting things up? It's a serious loss of I/O as well when talking about an additional couple of SSDs!

                  No, there is no (zero) loss of i/o.
                  The 2 x 2.5" are connected to the onboard RAID.
                  The 24 x 2.5" are connected to the LSI raid.

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                  • B
                    bnrstnr
                    last edited by

                    @fateknollogee You must have typoed your OP because it says 2 and 4 drives, not 24. At 6 drives total, it's a big difference than 26 total

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                    • FATeknollogeeF
                      FATeknollogee @bnrstnr
                      last edited by

                      @bnrstnr said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                      @fateknollogee You must have typoed your OP because it says 2 and 4 drives, not 24. At 6 drives total, it's a big difference than 26 total

                      I typed "4 - xx SSD for NFS shares" - meaning a minimum of 4 to xx (max 24)

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                        bnrstnr @FATeknollogee
                        last edited by bnrstnr

                        @fateknollogee ah, I definitely didn't get that lol but it makes sense now that you say it. I probably would have just said 4-24 since we had no way of knowing the max was 24

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                          1337 @FATeknollogee
                          last edited by

                          @fateknollogee

                          Chassi

                          You have a server in a chassi (SC846) just like the pic right? And with the two 2.5" drive bays option in the back next to the PSUs?

                          When you say sharing files with clients, over what medium? 10Gbe local LAN?
                          How are the backplane connected to the LSI controller? Is the LSI on the motherboard or PCIe card?

                          The reason I'm asking is to know what speeds we are talking about.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                            last edited by

                            @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                            So you want to build an NFS Server to "share" files with other clients.

                            What o/s would you base this build on...?
                            Install o/s on bare metal or virtualize?

                            Unless there is a reason not to, Fedora. Unless you can prove what you need to do is impossible with virtual, always virtual.

                            So by those rules (first one is personal, second one is industry best practice), it would be virtualized Fedora.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                              last edited by

                              @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                              HW is simple:

                              • 2x SSD for o/s
                              • 4 - xx SSD for NFS shares

                              Why would you have drives for the OS? This both breaks standard storage practices AND assumes a physical install which is a 'no no'.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                last edited by

                                @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                                @travisdh1 said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                                Well, first of all I wouldn't do a split array. OBR (One Big RAID), unless you have a very specific reason to do otherwise.

                                Easy to do with my SM box, since it has 2x 2.5" sleds on the backside running off the onboard SATA.

                                Even if someone did it for you, it's still bad.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                  last edited by

                                  @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                                  @travisdh1 said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                                  @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                                  @travisdh1 said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                                  Well, first of all I wouldn't do a split array. OBR (One Big RAID), unless you have a very specific reason to do otherwise.

                                  Easy to do with my SM box, since it has 2x 2.5" sleds on the backside running off the onboard SATA.

                                  Just because it's easy to do, doesn't mean you should. Why not just get two more drives for the main array and not loose all that I/O by splitting things up? It's a serious loss of I/O as well when talking about an additional couple of SSDs!

                                  No, there is no (zero) loss of i/o.
                                  The 2 x 2.5" are connected to the onboard RAID.
                                  The 24 x 2.5" are connected to the LSI raid.

                                  But there is money thrown away. Tell us "why it isn't SO bad" is in no way the same as tell us "why it is good."

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                                  • FATeknollogeeF
                                    FATeknollogee @1337
                                    last edited by

                                    @pete-s said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                                    @fateknollogee

                                    Chassi

                                    You have a server in a chassi (SC846) just like the pic right? And with the two 2.5" drive bays option in the back next to the PSUs?

                                    When you say sharing files with clients, over what medium? 10Gbe local LAN?
                                    How are the backplane connected to the LSI controller? Is the LSI on the motherboard or PCIe card?

                                    The reason I'm asking is to know what speeds we are talking about.

                                    216BE1C-R920LPB
                                    Clients are VM's, sharing could be 10Gbe or 56Gbe
                                    LSI is a PCIe card

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                                    • FATeknollogeeF
                                      FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                                      @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                                      HW is simple:

                                      • 2x SSD for o/s
                                      • 4 - xx SSD for NFS shares

                                      Why would you have drives for the OS? This both breaks standard storage practices AND assumes a physical install which is a 'no no'.

                                      Why would you assume a physical install ?
                                      I'm installing the hypervisor (in this case FC28) on a Raid1 array of 2x SSDs

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                                      • FATeknollogeeF
                                        FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                                        @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                                        @travisdh1 said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                                        Well, first of all I wouldn't do a split array. OBR (One Big RAID), unless you have a very specific reason to do otherwise.

                                        Easy to do with my SM box, since it has 2x 2.5" sleds on the backside running off the onboard SATA.

                                        Even if someone did it for you, it's still bad.

                                        No it's not, some folks prefer the one big array, I prefer to keep it separate.

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                                        • black3dynamiteB
                                          black3dynamite
                                          last edited by

                                          Are you considering something like this for your partition scheme?

                                          2x SSD for o/s:

                                          • /boot
                                          • /
                                          • swap partition or swapfile

                                          4 - xx SSD for NFS shares:

                                          • /var/lib/libvirt/images
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                                          • FATeknollogeeF
                                            FATeknollogee @black3dynamite
                                            last edited by

                                            @black3dynamite said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                                            Are you considering something like this for your partition scheme?

                                            2x SSD for o/s:

                                            • /boot
                                            • /
                                            • swap partition or swapfile

                                            4 - xx SSD for NFS shares:

                                            • /var/lib/libvirt/images

                                            Slightly different...UEFI install
                                            2x SSD for o/s:

                                            • /
                                            • /boot
                                            • /boot/efi
                                            • swap

                                            4 - xx SSD for NFS shares:

                                            • /data
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