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    • travisdh1T
      travisdh1 @FATeknollogee
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      @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

      @travisdh1 said in NFS Server...what to build??:

      Well, first of all I wouldn't do a split array. OBR (One Big RAID), unless you have a very specific reason to do otherwise.

      Easy to do with my SM box, since it has 2x 2.5" sleds on the backside running off the onboard SATA.

      Just because it's easy to do, doesn't mean you should. Why not just get two more drives for the main array and not loose all that I/O by splitting things up? It's a serious loss of I/O as well when talking about an additional couple of SSDs!

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
        last edited by DustinB3403

        I like fedora, but I don't know if cutting edge tech is a requirement here. All he needs is a file server, centos would work well here.

        While Fedora is a great platform, being on the edge could encounter issues if he updated with a buggy release.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
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          OBR5 made out of SSD would be perfectly fine, and expected. Splitting the arrays isn't a good idea.

          But also don't use consumer SSD and make sure you have some backup plan developed.

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce @FATeknollogee
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            @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

            @obsolesce said in NFS Server...what to build??:

            @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

            So you want to build an NFS Server to "share" files with other clients.

            What o/s would you base this build on...?
            Install o/s on bare metal or virtualize?

            HW is simple:

            • 2x SSD for o/s
            • 4 - xx SSD for NFS shares

            I set one up on Fedora Server to act as a storage repository for ReaR backups. I did it on a VM.

            Where is that blog post or it didn't happen? ..jk

            I thought I did... Or didn't publish it. I'll check later. I lost track

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            • black3dynamiteB
              black3dynamite @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @dustinb3403 said in NFS Server...what to build??:

              I like fedora, but I don't know if cutting edge tech is a requirement here. All he needs is a file server, centos would work well here.

              While Fedora is a great platform, being on the edge could encounter issues if he updated with a buggy release.

              I assume using Fedora instead CentOS would be best if you were wanted to take advantage of NFS v4.
              If only using NFS v3, I would probably use CentOS.

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              • FATeknollogeeF
                FATeknollogee @travisdh1
                last edited by

                @travisdh1 said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                @travisdh1 said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                Well, first of all I wouldn't do a split array. OBR (One Big RAID), unless you have a very specific reason to do otherwise.

                Easy to do with my SM box, since it has 2x 2.5" sleds on the backside running off the onboard SATA.

                Just because it's easy to do, doesn't mean you should. Why not just get two more drives for the main array and not loose all that I/O by splitting things up? It's a serious loss of I/O as well when talking about an additional couple of SSDs!

                No, there is no (zero) loss of i/o.
                The 2 x 2.5" are connected to the onboard RAID.
                The 24 x 2.5" are connected to the LSI raid.

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                  bnrstnr
                  last edited by

                  @fateknollogee You must have typoed your OP because it says 2 and 4 drives, not 24. At 6 drives total, it's a big difference than 26 total

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                  • FATeknollogeeF
                    FATeknollogee @bnrstnr
                    last edited by

                    @bnrstnr said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                    @fateknollogee You must have typoed your OP because it says 2 and 4 drives, not 24. At 6 drives total, it's a big difference than 26 total

                    I typed "4 - xx SSD for NFS shares" - meaning a minimum of 4 to xx (max 24)

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                      bnrstnr @FATeknollogee
                      last edited by bnrstnr

                      @fateknollogee ah, I definitely didn't get that lol but it makes sense now that you say it. I probably would have just said 4-24 since we had no way of knowing the max was 24

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                        1337 @FATeknollogee
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                        @fateknollogee

                        Chassi

                        You have a server in a chassi (SC846) just like the pic right? And with the two 2.5" drive bays option in the back next to the PSUs?

                        When you say sharing files with clients, over what medium? 10Gbe local LAN?
                        How are the backplane connected to the LSI controller? Is the LSI on the motherboard or PCIe card?

                        The reason I'm asking is to know what speeds we are talking about.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                          last edited by

                          @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                          So you want to build an NFS Server to "share" files with other clients.

                          What o/s would you base this build on...?
                          Install o/s on bare metal or virtualize?

                          Unless there is a reason not to, Fedora. Unless you can prove what you need to do is impossible with virtual, always virtual.

                          So by those rules (first one is personal, second one is industry best practice), it would be virtualized Fedora.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                            last edited by

                            @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                            HW is simple:

                            • 2x SSD for o/s
                            • 4 - xx SSD for NFS shares

                            Why would you have drives for the OS? This both breaks standard storage practices AND assumes a physical install which is a 'no no'.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                              last edited by

                              @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                              @travisdh1 said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                              Well, first of all I wouldn't do a split array. OBR (One Big RAID), unless you have a very specific reason to do otherwise.

                              Easy to do with my SM box, since it has 2x 2.5" sleds on the backside running off the onboard SATA.

                              Even if someone did it for you, it's still bad.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                last edited by

                                @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                                @travisdh1 said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                                @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                                @travisdh1 said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                                Well, first of all I wouldn't do a split array. OBR (One Big RAID), unless you have a very specific reason to do otherwise.

                                Easy to do with my SM box, since it has 2x 2.5" sleds on the backside running off the onboard SATA.

                                Just because it's easy to do, doesn't mean you should. Why not just get two more drives for the main array and not loose all that I/O by splitting things up? It's a serious loss of I/O as well when talking about an additional couple of SSDs!

                                No, there is no (zero) loss of i/o.
                                The 2 x 2.5" are connected to the onboard RAID.
                                The 24 x 2.5" are connected to the LSI raid.

                                But there is money thrown away. Tell us "why it isn't SO bad" is in no way the same as tell us "why it is good."

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                                • FATeknollogeeF
                                  FATeknollogee @1337
                                  last edited by

                                  @pete-s said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                                  @fateknollogee

                                  Chassi

                                  You have a server in a chassi (SC846) just like the pic right? And with the two 2.5" drive bays option in the back next to the PSUs?

                                  When you say sharing files with clients, over what medium? 10Gbe local LAN?
                                  How are the backplane connected to the LSI controller? Is the LSI on the motherboard or PCIe card?

                                  The reason I'm asking is to know what speeds we are talking about.

                                  216BE1C-R920LPB
                                  Clients are VM's, sharing could be 10Gbe or 56Gbe
                                  LSI is a PCIe card

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                                  • FATeknollogeeF
                                    FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                                    @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                                    HW is simple:

                                    • 2x SSD for o/s
                                    • 4 - xx SSD for NFS shares

                                    Why would you have drives for the OS? This both breaks standard storage practices AND assumes a physical install which is a 'no no'.

                                    Why would you assume a physical install ?
                                    I'm installing the hypervisor (in this case FC28) on a Raid1 array of 2x SSDs

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                                    • FATeknollogeeF
                                      FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                                      @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                                      @travisdh1 said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                                      Well, first of all I wouldn't do a split array. OBR (One Big RAID), unless you have a very specific reason to do otherwise.

                                      Easy to do with my SM box, since it has 2x 2.5" sleds on the backside running off the onboard SATA.

                                      Even if someone did it for you, it's still bad.

                                      No it's not, some folks prefer the one big array, I prefer to keep it separate.

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                                      • black3dynamiteB
                                        black3dynamite
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                                        Are you considering something like this for your partition scheme?

                                        2x SSD for o/s:

                                        • /boot
                                        • /
                                        • swap partition or swapfile

                                        4 - xx SSD for NFS shares:

                                        • /var/lib/libvirt/images
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                                        • FATeknollogeeF
                                          FATeknollogee @black3dynamite
                                          last edited by

                                          @black3dynamite said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                                          Are you considering something like this for your partition scheme?

                                          2x SSD for o/s:

                                          • /boot
                                          • /
                                          • swap partition or swapfile

                                          4 - xx SSD for NFS shares:

                                          • /var/lib/libvirt/images

                                          Slightly different...UEFI install
                                          2x SSD for o/s:

                                          • /
                                          • /boot
                                          • /boot/efi
                                          • swap

                                          4 - xx SSD for NFS shares:

                                          • /data
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                                          • Emad RE
                                            Emad R @FATeknollogee
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                                            @fateknollogee said in NFS Server...what to build??:

                                            So you want to build an NFS Server to "share" files with other clients.

                                            What o/s would you base this build on...?
                                            Install o/s on bare metal or virtualize?

                                            HW is simple:

                                            • 2x SSD for o/s
                                            • 4 - xx SSD for NFS shares

                                            With the high reliability of SSD nowadays, especially certain models why dont you make 1 SSD for OS and make it NVMe drive, and that will leave you SATA ports free, and keep the other as cold spare.

                                            And make the OS well defined and as a state, so even if an issue happens you can run command to rebuild it easily, cause all the data will be on the Shares, and yes the new OS will detect all the RAID volumes automatically.

                                            That said good NVme SSD will last 5-10 years

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