Why There Is No Nutanix Review
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Added to the list of dodgy cupcakes
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Wait, it gets better. I mentioned this dodgy practice in another community where Nutanix advertises and guess what, Nutanix tried to get what I said about them altered or removed! They did the very thing they were accused of doing, more or less!
They didn't, TTBOMK, pull any special strings, they just reported the post through their account person in the community and got the moderators to request it be modified, which it was.
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@scottalanmiller thats delicious heheh
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@scottalanmiller said:
Wait, it gets better. I mentioned this dodgy practice in another community where Nutanix advertises and guess what, Nutanix tried to get what I said about them altered or removed! They did the very thing they were accused of doing, more or less!
They didn't, TTBOMK, pull any special strings, they just reported the post through their account person in the community and got the moderators to request it be modified, which is was.
Rudeness.
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Three years later, one sneaks out...
http://www.cultofanarchy.org/perfomance-test-nutanix-4-node-cluste/
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Well someone else has decided that Nutanix can piss off and posted a review..
http://www.cultofanarchy.org/perfomance-test-nutanix-4-node-cluste/
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Got the gist but that font makes me head hurt.
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@momurda said in Why There Is No Nutanix Review:
Got the gist but that font makes me head hurt.
I am positive typewriters were never that bad.But Nutanix apparently is.
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@jaredbusch said in Why There Is No Nutanix Review:
Well someone else has decided that Nutanix can piss off and posted a review..
http://www.cultofanarchy.org/perfomance-test-nutanix-4-node-cluste/
"We could do Linux or FreeBSD or some other real operating system instead of Windows"
HAH!
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This is quite an entertaining read for sure.
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Saved the article to my Wallabag install before it disappears into the ether.
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So at the end of the article, they are saying data locality is really a horrible way to handle these kinds of systems. Which I think we all agree it is if you have a great network that can support the speeds your system is supporting.
@StarWind_Software to explain how StarWind vSAN can work around this issue.
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@dustinb3403 said in Why There Is No Nutanix Review:
So at the end of the article, they are saying data locality is really a horrible way to handle these kinds of systems. Which I think we all agree it is if you have a great network that can support the speeds your system is supporting.
@StarWind_Software to explain how StarWind vSAN can work around this issue.
Overall the article is good, I think, and Nutanix definitely has major issues and always has - I mean it is downright famous for being a flaming pile of "can't pull the cart". Most hyperconverged solutions struve to be the horse pulling the cart, Nutanix has always been happy being the stuff that the horse leaves behind on the road.
But the issue here isn't data locality and shoud not be seen as that. Locality is really important and all the main vendors agree on this. Just because Nutanix does locality, and fails at other things, doesn't tell us that locality is bad, it just tells us that Nutanix screwed the pooch. It's physically impossible for distant data to compete with the speeds of local data, it is what it is. No matter how fast you make the interconnects, there will always be a benefit to having the main data reads be local.
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@scottalanmiller the article states that even locally the performance was completely in the dumps. When the system was scaling it couldn't even reach the theoretical limits of what hardware as a whole should do.
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"What’s interesting is however, pretty few companies maintain full local copies, most of the competitors prefer to chop the data into chunks and never keep single object as a whole."
This is the part that is really misleading. THis statement is true, but we have to understand the context. Let's take Scale, for example. Unlike Starwind who forces data to be local under "normal" situations, Scale just "encourages" it to be local. It's not that Scale doesn't do data locality, they just are more loose with it.
This is more an artefact of using RAIN instead of Network RAID. RAID, by definition, keeps full volumes together; RAIN has no such implication. RAIN is a broader topic, so not exactly apples to oranges. But with Starwind you could force all data to be non-local if you wanted, it's just that this is silly. With Scale, data might be non-local but will migrate to local for performance over time.
Part of the difference is that Starwind's approach focuses on massive speed requiriing a little less "pooling". Scale's approach focuses more on "single pooling" with less focus on tightly controlled performance.
THis means that with Starwind, for example, you will generally determine where your workloads run, not randomly migrate them around. But with Scale you will generally ignore where your workloads run and they will often move around on you.
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@dustinb3403 said in Why There Is No Nutanix Review:
@scottalanmiller the article states that even locally the performance was completely in the dumps. When the system was scaling it couldn't even reach the theoretical limits of what hardware as a whole should do.
Yes, the performance of Nutanix, the issue is Nutanix, not locality.
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@dustinb3403 said in Why There Is No Nutanix Review:
@scottalanmiller the article states that even locally the performance was completely in the dumps. When the system was scaling it couldn't even reach the theoretical limits of what hardware as a whole should do.
Imagine buying a Ferrari and taking it out in LA in heavy traffic. Then complaining that your Ferrari never goes over 15MPH. The issue is that they chose the wrong road (Nutanix) to test their Ferrari (NVMe) on, not that locality (cars) aren't faster than walking. They never really tested locality vs .non-locality, they never used a product that could showcase it. All of that stuff is background noise compared to the trainwreck that is Nutanix.
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@nadnerb said in Why There Is No Nutanix Review:
Added to the list of dodgy cupcakes
New Tag: Dodgy Cupcakes
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@black3dynamite said in Why There Is No Nutanix Review:
@nadnerb said in Why There Is No Nutanix Review:
Added to the list of dodgy cupcakes
New Tag: Dodgy Cupcakes
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