Manage KVM through Cockpit
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@tim_g said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:
I don't have a Fedora machine on me atm, can someone do a "dnf search cockpit" and show me the results? (if there's not too much output)
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@fateknollogee said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:
@tim_g said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:
I don't have a Fedora machine on me atm, can someone do a "dnf search cockpit" and show me the results? (if there's not too much output)
Cool... there's more there than I thought. I should have thought to do that a long time ago. Now I have some things to play with when I get some spare time at home.
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@fateknollogee said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:
Maybe for virtualized Windows guest that needs console acces? Does cockpit provides that feature?
Yes it does.
Do you have this setup ? can you post screenshot with this feature ?
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@emad-r said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:
@fateknollogee said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:
Maybe for virtualized Windows guest that needs console acces? Does cockpit provides that feature?
Yes it does.
Do you have this setup ? can you post screenshot with this feature ?
BRB!
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@emad-r said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:
@fateknollogee said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:
Maybe for virtualized Windows guest that needs console acces? Does cockpit provides that feature?
Yes it does.
Do you have this setup ? can you post screenshot with this feature ?
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@emad-r said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:
@fateknollogee said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:
Maybe for virtualized Windows guest that needs console acces? Does cockpit provides that feature?
Yes it does.
Do you have this setup ? can you post screenshot with this feature ?
Also on Fedora vm's
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@fateknollogee said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:
@francesco-provino said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:
Why everybody seems to need a GUI for KVM? Virsh can do absolutely anything, in a much more concise, fast and elegant way. It's also very bandwidth friendly.
Because some of us "just" want it. Why it this so hard for some of you to understand?
Maybe for virtualized Windows guest that needs console acces? Does cockpit provides that feature?
Yes it does.
@fateknollogee said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:
@francesco-provino said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:
Why everybody seems to need a GUI for KVM? Virsh can do absolutely anything, in a much more concise, fast and elegant way. It's also very bandwidth friendly.
Because some of us "just" want it. Why it this so hard for some of you to understand?
Maybe for virtualized Windows guest that needs console acces? Does cockpit provides that feature?
Yes it does.
I was not aware of the console redirection. Perhaps, it seems more like a link generator for the usual spice/vnc client. I can understand it for windows troubleshooting… no use at all for linux guests.
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@francesco-provino said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:
Why everybody seems to need a GUI for KVM? Virsh can do absolutely anything, in a much more concise, fast and elegant way. It's also very bandwidth friendly.
That made me laugh a lot
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@olivier said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:
@francesco-provino said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:
Why everybody seems to need a GUI for KVM? Virsh can do absolutely anything, in a much more concise, fast and elegant way. It's also very bandwidth friendly.
That made me laugh a lot
Why, you agree or disagree with that statement?
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@fateknollogee The need for UI in Open Source is ultra-important, and I don't get why people don't get it.
It's even possible to make some money with that So when I heard someone telling this, it's really funny and remind me some disdain I met in the past when I started Xen Orchestra.
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@olivier said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:
@fateknollogee The need for UI in Open Source is ultra-important, and I don't get why people don't get it.
Well said... @olivier
This is exactly what I said (in a prev post)..."Because some of us "just" want it. Why it this so hard for some of you to understand?" -
It's hard to understand because sometimes there is a difference between being a tech person mastering a technology and being able to understand users need.
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Can't be everywhere And this seems less fancy that communicating with KVM directly. Sadly, last time I inspected the "state of KVM APIs", it was far from XAPI features (in an agentless point of view)
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Then let XOA communicate directly with KVM !
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@fateknollogee 1. Because KVM APIs are really light (like "pure" Xen APIs).
2. This will require hiring 10 people approx for 1y. -
@olivier said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:
@fateknollogee 1. Because KVM APIs are really light (like "pure" Xen APIs).
2. This will require hiring 10 people approx for 1y.10 people for a year for beer and food seems like a good investment.
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CentOS 7 now has the VM console as long as the VM has VNC graphics. You don't need to remove SPICE, you can just add VNC also.
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@stacksofplates said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:
CentOS 7 now has the VM console as long as the VM has VNC graphics. You don't need to remove SPICE, you can just add VNC also.
Can it work like that in the browser with spice?
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@tim_g said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:
@stacksofplates said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:
CentOS 7 now has the VM console as long as the VM has VNC graphics. You don't need to remove SPICE, you can just add VNC also.
Can it work like that in the browser with spice?
well it depends on cockpit for the most. there are vnc web implementations out there, like in kimchi.