What Are You Doing Right Now
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I'm not necessarily opposed to home visits. But personally, my feeling is that they should either be universal (every home, all the time) or should be blocked until there is reason to inspect. Not using low cost services as an excuse to use income disparity or social need as an excuse to inspect some people and not others (or some people with kids and not others.)
This becomes a form of discrimination. In the US we often accept discrimination based on income, but that's really not very sensible. And income is often tied to other factors, so it is automatically a proxy for those other factors.
We tend to see it more in lower income because those in higher income brackets are either able to cover it up better or are able to bribe some government officials to look the other way.
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@nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs Does the teacher walk around the house, or do they simply come over and sit on the couch and talk?
If it's anything more than a sit down and talk, then it is a CPS assessment of your home, and the housing conditions for the child.
Even if you don't know about it.
They come in, Sit down , talk ( usually about goals and such) then they leave. I offered to show them around the first time and they said it wasn't what they were there for.
Put yourself in the teacher's position. Typically this is a young, somewhat attractive female. They also have to be concerned about their safety and security as well. Therefore, probably wouldn't want to be lead to the backroom to be forced to do who knows what to them.
There is always at least 2 of them if not more. but i could understand that
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So they are simply trying to ascertain the child's needs through a parent who is only an emergency contact..
Seems like a waste of money to me. . .
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@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs Does the teacher walk around the house, or do they simply come over and sit on the couch and talk?
If it's anything more than a sit down and talk, then it is a CPS assessment of your home, and the housing conditions for the child.
Even if you don't know about it.
They come in, Sit down , talk ( usually about goals and such) then they leave. I offered to show them around the first time and they said it wasn't what they were there for.
Leave a broken down motor in parts on the living room floor, making a massive mess of the house and see how it changes their tune. . . /sarcasim-off
hahah right? But heres the thing, they've only came to my house and im not even on the account there other than as an emergency contact and Parent pick up.. So basically them coming to my current home shouldnt be happening because they havent even seen my exes house. not once.
How do they get to come there then? Why do you let them in? Call the cops.
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@WrCombs no offense meant.
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@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
So they are simply trying to ascertain the child's needs through a parent who is only an emergency contact..
Seems like a waste of money to me. . .
Well they know i am the Father, if that means anything at all i dont know
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@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs Does the teacher walk around the house, or do they simply come over and sit on the couch and talk?
If it's anything more than a sit down and talk, then it is a CPS assessment of your home, and the housing conditions for the child.
Even if you don't know about it.
They come in, Sit down , talk ( usually about goals and such) then they leave. I offered to show them around the first time and they said it wasn't what they were there for.
Put yourself in the teacher's position. Typically this is a young, somewhat attractive female. They also have to be concerned about their safety and security as well. Therefore, probably wouldn't want to be lead to the backroom to be forced to do who knows what to them.
There is always at least 2 of them if not more. but i could understand that
Yes, in reality, it is you that are in danger. Probably not even a record of them going there since you aren't even officially the correct person or address.
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@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs no offense meant.
none taken man, all good!
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I guess the question is why aren't they speaking with the kids mother (or primary care taker and residence operator) rather than you?
It seems like an attempt to milk you for your money for your ex. . . . (wooh he just bought this. . . Take him to court to get more money)
(cynical me)
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs Does the teacher walk around the house, or do they simply come over and sit on the couch and talk?
If it's anything more than a sit down and talk, then it is a CPS assessment of your home, and the housing conditions for the child.
Even if you don't know about it.
They come in, Sit down , talk ( usually about goals and such) then they leave. I offered to show them around the first time and they said it wasn't what they were there for.
Leave a broken down motor in parts on the living room floor, making a massive mess of the house and see how it changes their tune. . . /sarcasim-off
hahah right? But heres the thing, they've only came to my house and im not even on the account there other than as an emergency contact and Parent pick up.. So basically them coming to my current home shouldnt be happening because they havent even seen my exes house. not once.
How do they get to come there then? Why do you let them in? Call the cops.
I just found out last week that I am not on the Account other than parent pick up and emergency contact, after I already set up the Home visit with them so my son could stay a "student" at their school. after this, they know to contact her or stop her when shes picking him up and tell her.
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@WrCombs I'm assuming you're paying child support etc.
Which is why I say it like that. Why investigate you / your residence rather than the residence that the kid lives at, and with the people that they stay with constantly. Besides as a means to assess your ability to pay more. .
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@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I guess the question is why aren't they speaking with the kids mother (or primary care taker and residence operator) rather than you?
It seems like an attempt to milk you for your money for your ex. . . . (wooh he just bought this. . . Take him to court to get more money)
(cynical me)
Because my ex wasnt answering her phone. She said it was my thing since i have weekdays off most times. But after today they have to go through her for all of that or she needs to add me as primary care giver on the account
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@dustinb3403 I do pay child support - way to damn much in child support actually.
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@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I guess the question is why aren't they speaking with the kids mother (or primary care taker and residence operator) rather than you?
It seems like an attempt to milk you for your money for your ex. . . . (wooh he just bought this. . . Take him to court to get more money)
(cynical me)
Because my ex wasnt answering her phone. She said it was my thing since i have weekdays off most times. But after today they have to go through her for all of that or she needs to add me as primary care giver on the account
So your ex is just as crazy as all Ex's are, and trying to act predatory against you. . .
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@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I guess the question is why aren't they speaking with the kids mother (or primary care taker and residence operator) rather than you?
It seems like an attempt to milk you for your money for your ex. . . . (wooh he just bought this. . . Take him to court to get more money)
(cynical me)
Because my ex wasnt answering her phone. She said it was my thing since i have weekdays off most times. But after today they have to go through her for all of that or she needs to add me as primary care giver on the account
So she doesn't do what is required and they don't care, but if you don't do what isn't required, they take action? Seriously, this is when lawyers step in. I'd be all over them for discrimination in a flash. They have legal responsibilities that they are shirking and are taking advantage of their position to basically threaten you.
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@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I guess the question is why aren't they speaking with the kids mother (or primary care taker and residence operator) rather than you?
It seems like an attempt to milk you for your money for your ex. . . . (wooh he just bought this. . . Take him to court to get more money)
(cynical me)
Because my ex wasnt answering her phone. She said it was my thing since i have weekdays off most times. But after today they have to go through her for all of that or she needs to add me as primary care giver on the account
So your ex is just as crazy as all Ex's are, and trying to act predatory against you. . .
In a sense yes! LOL but what else is new?
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I guess the question is why aren't they speaking with the kids mother (or primary care taker and residence operator) rather than you?
It seems like an attempt to milk you for your money for your ex. . . . (wooh he just bought this. . . Take him to court to get more money)
(cynical me)
Because my ex wasnt answering her phone. She said it was my thing since i have weekdays off most times. But after today they have to go through her for all of that or she needs to add me as primary care giver on the account
So she doesn't do what is required and they don't care, but if you don't do what isn't required, they take action? Seriously, this is when lawyers step in. I'd be all over them for discrimination in a flash. They have legal responsibilities that they are shirking and are taking advantage of their position to basically threaten you.
I was the only parent they saw at the time that week. She doesnt do what is required and they tell me about it basically. yeah, its great. I get to deal with all of the adult stuff basically because she wont.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I guess the question is why aren't they speaking with the kids mother (or primary care taker and residence operator) rather than you?
It seems like an attempt to milk you for your money for your ex. . . . (wooh he just bought this. . . Take him to court to get more money)
(cynical me)
Because my ex wasnt answering her phone. She said it was my thing since i have weekdays off most times. But after today they have to go through her for all of that or she needs to add me as primary care giver on the account
So she doesn't do what is required and they don't care, but if you don't do what isn't required, they take action? Seriously, this is when lawyers step in. I'd be all over them for discrimination in a flash. They have legal responsibilities that they are shirking and are taking advantage of their position to basically threaten you.
I have to agree with @scottalanmiller here, if she isn't answering her phone that could be considered abandonment of the child. So why aren't they calling CPS on her, and bringing the child to the responsible parent who is answering the phone?
"Because she wasn't answering her phone" doesn't mean you kidnapped her, and have her locked up in your basement. So why "stop-in" and see what's up?!
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@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I guess the question is why aren't they speaking with the kids mother (or primary care taker and residence operator) rather than you?
It seems like an attempt to milk you for your money for your ex. . . . (wooh he just bought this. . . Take him to court to get more money)
(cynical me)
Because my ex wasnt answering her phone. She said it was my thing since i have weekdays off most times. But after today they have to go through her for all of that or she needs to add me as primary care giver on the account
So she doesn't do what is required and they don't care, but if you don't do what isn't required, they take action? Seriously, this is when lawyers step in. I'd be all over them for discrimination in a flash. They have legal responsibilities that they are shirking and are taking advantage of their position to basically threaten you.
I was the only parent they saw at the time that week. She doesnt do what is required and they tell me about it basically. yeah, its great. I get to deal with all of the adult stuff basically because she wont.
And? Who they "see" doesn't determine the law. They can't have it both ways. If that logic was legal, you'd be sole guardian instantly as the only parent that they saw.
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@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I guess the question is why aren't they speaking with the kids mother (or primary care taker and residence operator) rather than you?
It seems like an attempt to milk you for your money for your ex. . . . (wooh he just bought this. . . Take him to court to get more money)
(cynical me)
Because my ex wasnt answering her phone. She said it was my thing since i have weekdays off most times. But after today they have to go through her for all of that or she needs to add me as primary care giver on the account
So she doesn't do what is required and they don't care, but if you don't do what isn't required, they take action? Seriously, this is when lawyers step in. I'd be all over them for discrimination in a flash. They have legal responsibilities that they are shirking and are taking advantage of their position to basically threaten you.
I was the only parent they saw at the time that week. She doesnt do what is required and they tell me about it basically. yeah, its great. I get to deal with all of the adult stuff basically because she wont.
So then document all of it, bring it to your lawyer and fight the custody battle. If you are the responsible adult, you should have the kid, and get paid child support etc.
