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@scottalanmiller said in iMac Pro:
@Francesco-Provino said in iMac Pro:
@Minion-Queen said in iMac Pro:
@Francesco-Provino said in iMac Pro:
@scottalanmiller said in iMac Pro:
Asus C201
I would trade it any day for an iPad pro with keyboard.
I LOVE My Ipad Pro. I can use that pretty much all day long 8-10 hours battery life.
Would you recommend it for remote sysadmin stuff?
That's one of the hardest questions because it all depends on your environment. If you do "old school" manual adminstration with GUIs, you do everything through RDP.
If you use the "no login" Windows tools like RSAT, you really need Windows.
If you use state systems like Ansible, there is no need for any of that and a Chromebook will keep pace 100% with the most expensive systems.
This last part is the part that the other 99.99% of the world lives in though. Us plebs of system admins. . . .
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@scottalanmiller said in iMac Pro:
@fuznutz04 said in iMac Pro:
For anyone using an older MBP, like @JaredBusch , what is your average battery life like? Mine sucks, and have to keep it plugged in most of the time. I'm considering getting a new battery for it.
I feel like it was around four hours for me. I'm not sure though. It was decent considering what all it was running.
With macOS I would get 3-5 hours out of it depending on what I was doing. I have an SSD in it.
With it running Korora 25, I get 3ish i think. Only ran it down one time form full to dead while I was actively on it.
Every other time, It has been used/notused/used for hours.
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@JaredBusch said in iMac Pro:
@scottalanmiller said in iMac Pro:
@fuznutz04 said in iMac Pro:
For anyone using an older MBP, like @JaredBusch , what is your average battery life like? Mine sucks, and have to keep it plugged in most of the time. I'm considering getting a new battery for it.
I feel like it was around four hours for me. I'm not sure though. It was decent considering what all it was running.
With macOS I would get 3-5 hours out of it depending on what I was doing. I have an SSD in it.
With it running Korora 25, I get 3ish i think. Only ran it down one time form full to dead while I was actively on it.
Every other time, It has been used/notused/used for hours.
I'm surprised that Korora is doing that well. In the same ballpark at least. Power control is a weak spot since it's not vertically integrated.
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@JaredBusch said in iMac Pro:
@scottalanmiller said in iMac Pro:
@fuznutz04 said in iMac Pro:
For anyone using an older MBP, like @JaredBusch , what is your average battery life like? Mine sucks, and have to keep it plugged in most of the time. I'm considering getting a new battery for it.
I feel like it was around four hours for me. I'm not sure though. It was decent considering what all it was running.
With macOS I would get 3-5 hours out of it depending on what I was doing. I have an SSD in it.
With it running Korora 25, I get 3ish i think. Only ran it down one time form full to dead while I was actively on it.
Every other time, It has been used/notused/used for hours.
I need to actually do a test one time. I feel like it is soo short, because it almost always dies on me when out on a job. But the state of the battery also says "Service battery". Which from my research, just means that the battery holds less thatn X percent of it's original design.
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@JaredBusch said in iMac Pro:
@scottalanmiller said in iMac Pro:
@fuznutz04 said in iMac Pro:
For anyone using an older MBP, like @JaredBusch , what is your average battery life like? Mine sucks, and have to keep it plugged in most of the time. I'm considering getting a new battery for it.
I feel like it was around four hours for me. I'm not sure though. It was decent considering what all it was running.
With macOS I would get 3-5 hours out of it depending on what I was doing. I have an SSD in it.
With it running Korora 25, I get 3ish i think. Only ran it down one time form full to dead while I was actively on it.
Every other time, It has been used/notused/used for hours.
I'm also still on El Capitain
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@DustinB3403 said in iMac Pro:
If you use state systems like Ansible, there is no need for any of that and a Chromebook will keep pace 100% with the most expensive systems.
This last part is the part that the other 99.99% of the world lives in though. Us plebs of system admins. . . .
You have to include the cost of equipment in the cost of not doing things this way, of course
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@fuznutz04 said in iMac Pro:
@JaredBusch said in iMac Pro:
@scottalanmiller said in iMac Pro:
@fuznutz04 said in iMac Pro:
For anyone using an older MBP, like @JaredBusch , what is your average battery life like? Mine sucks, and have to keep it plugged in most of the time. I'm considering getting a new battery for it.
I feel like it was around four hours for me. I'm not sure though. It was decent considering what all it was running.
With macOS I would get 3-5 hours out of it depending on what I was doing. I have an SSD in it.
With it running Korora 25, I get 3ish i think. Only ran it down one time form full to dead while I was actively on it.
Every other time, It has been used/notused/used for hours.
I need to actually do a test one time. I feel like it is soo short, because it almost always dies on me when out on a job. But the state of the battery also says "Service battery". Which from my research, just means that the battery holds less thatn X percent of it's original design.
That's what I would expect it to mean, yes.
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@scottalanmiller said in iMac Pro:
When I had the job that had the Macs, I literally asked for a Chromebook as it would have made me much more efficient. And now that I have one, my Asus C201 little Chromebook is definitely far more polished and usable than the Mac had been two years ago. Sturdier, more polished, better battery life... totally different machines of course. But one is much more well designed for its purpose, the other was just... built to be marketed.
You wrote about underpowered macbook pro… I think your workflow has changed so much. Advantages of the chromebook vs iPad pro for a devops-like workflow?
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@fuznutz04 said in iMac Pro:
For anyone using an older MBP, like @JaredBusch , what is your average battery life like? Mine sucks, and have to keep it plugged in most of the time. I'm considering getting a new battery for it.
My MBP 2011 still got ~7 hours.
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My use-case for still having a Mac is that it interfaces well with my PreSonus recording hardware. The used MacBook Pro Late 2010 I acquire does the job just fine, which allows me not to lug my iMac around.
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@EddieJennings said in iMac Pro:
My use-case for still having a Mac is that it interfaces well with my PreSonus recording hardware. The used MacBook Pro Late 2010 I acquire does the job just fine, which allows me not to lug my iMac around.
I've never had a single issue on Windows with any non digidesign hardware, ever since Pentium 2 days. Currently recording 10+ tracks simultaneously of 24/96 audio to an old system running win 7. ASIO makes having a Mac unnecessary.
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@RojoLoco When either my PreSounus or Mac stuff dies, I'll look for other platforms. Until then . . .
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holy flying poop there are definitely some Mangos with opinions on fruity gear
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@scottalanmiller said in iMac Pro:
@fuznutz04 said in iMac Pro:
@Francesco-Provino said in iMac Pro:
@Francesco-Provino said in iMac Pro:
Cannot find a purpose.
It's too pricey to be a graphic/video workstation, still lack performance vs the many multi-socket workstation/workstation, use AMD instead or Nvidia (CUDA!!!), non upgradable, non modular design with integrated display… any high-end workstation from Dell/HP/Supermicro can easily destroy it in any benchmark for a fraction of price, and with much better ROI, also.
So it's just like every other mac in that regard. Useless unless you buy into the "coolness".
I disagree. The macbook family (in baseline config) were and maybe are still great unix machines to work with. I had Dell XPS and other cool laptops, but with my macbook I had ZERO and I mean ZERO issue in six years. Still run like a charm.
Ok, Dell precision workstation maybe are even better and with great Linux support, but… guess what? They aren't that portable. The whole current XPS line is plagued with coil whine and other issues. The Thinkpad X1 is pricey and it's Lenovo… and maybe is the better alternatives. The mac just works, in my experience. I'm not a fanboy at all (apart about Linux :D), but I recognize good products when I use it… for years, without an hiccup.
I agree fully. I'm not a fanboy in the least, but I got a good deal on a 2012 MBP, and have been using it for the past 2 years without any issues. Used all day, like 6 days a week, thrown in and out of bags, taken to dirty work areas, etc. No issues at all. However, the first thing I did when I got it was maxed the memory and put in an SSD. I don't see myself needing to upgrade for quite some time. I feel like the "older" MBPs (2011-2012ish era) were the last "IT pro friendly" ones. The things are just tanks.
When it comes time to need a new one, will I get a newer model MPB? Probably not, unless I get a slamming deal.
If they were cheap(ish) they'd be generally great buys. Pop some Linux on there and you have a great option. But the prices are crazy. It's priced like a premium but it's only a mediocre system.
Exactly my point. I can't justify the cost when you can get better specs 30% cheaper!
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@PenguinWrangler said in iMac Pro:
@scottalanmiller said in iMac Pro:
@fuznutz04 said in iMac Pro:
@Francesco-Provino said in iMac Pro:
@Francesco-Provino said in iMac Pro:
Cannot find a purpose.
It's too pricey to be a graphic/video workstation, still lack performance vs the many multi-socket workstation/workstation, use AMD instead or Nvidia (CUDA!!!), non upgradable, non modular design with integrated display… any high-end workstation from Dell/HP/Supermicro can easily destroy it in any benchmark for a fraction of price, and with much better ROI, also.
So it's just like every other mac in that regard. Useless unless you buy into the "coolness".
I disagree. The macbook family (in baseline config) were and maybe are still great unix machines to work with. I had Dell XPS and other cool laptops, but with my macbook I had ZERO and I mean ZERO issue in six years. Still run like a charm.
Ok, Dell precision workstation maybe are even better and with great Linux support, but… guess what? They aren't that portable. The whole current XPS line is plagued with coil whine and other issues. The Thinkpad X1 is pricey and it's Lenovo… and maybe is the better alternatives. The mac just works, in my experience. I'm not a fanboy at all (apart about Linux :D), but I recognize good products when I use it… for years, without an hiccup.
I agree fully. I'm not a fanboy in the least, but I got a good deal on a 2012 MBP, and have been using it for the past 2 years without any issues. Used all day, like 6 days a week, thrown in and out of bags, taken to dirty work areas, etc. No issues at all. However, the first thing I did when I got it was maxed the memory and put in an SSD. I don't see myself needing to upgrade for quite some time. I feel like the "older" MBPs (2011-2012ish era) were the last "IT pro friendly" ones. The things are just tanks.
When it comes time to need a new one, will I get a newer model MPB? Probably not, unless I get a slamming deal.
If they were cheap(ish) they'd be generally great buys. Pop some Linux on there and you have a great option. But the prices are crazy. It's priced like a premium but it's only a mediocre system.
Exactly my point. I can't justify the cost when you can get better specs 30% cheaper!
That's the big thing. Like most things, it's all relative to the cost. If the price was different, I could see a strong case for the hardware. But the incredible price difference, I just don't see any value to it.
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@EddieJennings said in iMac Pro:
@RojoLoco When either my PreSounus or Mac stuff dies, I'll look for other platforms. Until then . . .
Ideally, I'd use LinuxWe used to have PreSounus live sound gear here and now have switched to Beringer instead. The Ipad app still works better than it does on Android (the Ipad app is just stable. The Android has the same functionality, but freaking crashes all the time).
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I've not read the all of the posts (y'all talk a lot), but we're a 90% Mac shop, and their build quality has gone down significantly in the last two iterations. We still have 2012s in full time use (heavy algorithmic work using python and multiple vms. Since the last iteration of MBPs in 2015 we have had a frustratingly high failure rate, particularly relative to their price point. If I could get a native POSIX environment on Windows or Office to run natively on Linux I would drop Macs as fast as possible.
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@Kelly What you said makes sense. They rise in popularity so more people buy them. They have to ramp up production, which resulted in lower quality.
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Sorry this was meant for here
