Well, that really, really sucks.
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@travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Generalist in Columbus: Should start no less than $300K for having to be in crappy Columbus.
Don't tell my extended family, ha!I'm sure that they already know.
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@NerdyDad said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@NerdyDad said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Seattle, WA - UNIX/Linux System Administrator
Columbus, OH - Local IT Generalist
UNIX in Seattle, should start around $85K for a junior, head towards $200K for a senior.
Generalist in Columbus: Should start no less than $300K for having to be in crappy Columbus.
How is the cost of living in, say, Seattle? Would $85k - $200k make for a nice living or still squeaking by paychech-to-paycheck?
I'm actually looking for that right now. I'll know for sure once I talk to my family after they get home tonight, that 3 hour time lag can be just slightly annoying.
For sure.
Around here, $85k/year would make for a nice salary in the DFW area, but also know that some areas can get pretty expensive for common essentials, such as rent or electricity, etc.
For me, key indicators are a gallon of gasoline and a gallon of milk.
While these are definitely to good indicators, personally I've moved almost exclusively to the cost of housing. How much will a cost/apt cost in the area you want to be in? That is what helps set your baseline. That and taxes.
A gallon of gasoline might be $1/gal more in NYC, and milk might be $0.50/gal more, but that doesn't even come close to telling you that the average person can't live in a nice part of town because a shit whole in the nice part of town cost half a mil to start.
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@Dashrender said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
A gallon of gasoline might be $1/gal more in NYC, and milk might be $0.50/gal more, but that doesn't even come close to telling you that the average person can't live in a nice part of town because a shit whole in the nice part of town cost half a mil to start.
Actually it does way more than you think. It's going purely by the cost of housing that makes people think NYC is so expensive when in reality, it's not nearly as bad as you think that it is. Going purely by the cost of housing is a terrible indicator.
Cost of commuting in NYC is generally dirt cheap, for example. And food is often cheap. It costs very little more to live in NYC than it does in most of the US. More, yes, but not as much as Minnesota, for example.
It makes NYC seem crazy expensive when people who live there know that it is a surprisingly affordable city, all things considered.
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@NerdyDad said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
For me, key indicators are a gallon of gasoline and a gallon of milk.
but you also have to consider if you even need to drive. NYC, for example, you don't get a car. That's enormous. Imagine the difference in the cost of living if there was no cost for gas, no car payments, no need for a garage, no insurance costs, etc. That's normally a giant factor in other parts of the country.
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@travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Edit: Anywhere in the country is going to be more expensive than the area I'm currently located in. So if I'm going to be unemployed for a bit, this is the place to be at least
I forgot to tell you. I own part of a house around the corner from you now.
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@scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Edit: Anywhere in the country is going to be more expensive than the area I'm currently located in. So if I'm going to be unemployed for a bit, this is the place to be at least
I forgot to tell you. I own part of a house around the corner from you now.
Timeshare?
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@NerdyDad said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Edit: Anywhere in the country is going to be more expensive than the area I'm currently located in. So if I'm going to be unemployed for a bit, this is the place to be at least
I forgot to tell you. I own part of a house around the corner from you now.
Timeshare?
Just own it with my cousins.
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@travisdh1 If you end up making $120k out in Seattle can you change the title of this thread to "Well, this is really, really great."
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Yeah, after doing my quick calculations, even the starting salary @scottalanmiller listed would make sense... don't tell THEM that tho!
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Interviewer: How much compensation are you looking for?
Travis: To move to Seattle? Let me discuss this life altering decision with my wife. Oh, and we are going to uproot the kids too tsk tsk (even if you don't have kids).
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@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Interviewer: How much compensation are you looking for?
Travis: To move to Seattle? Let me discuss this life altering decision with my wife. Oh, and we are going to uproot the kids too tsk tsk (even if you don't have kids).Might want to do a salary calculations to see where you would rank in that market. Since you seem to already have a couple of years experience, then I doubt you would be entry-level Linux/Unix Sys Admin, that should give you some kudos.
The only problem you're looking at is the expense of relocation.
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@NerdyDad said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Interviewer: How much compensation are you looking for?
Travis: To move to Seattle? Let me discuss this life altering decision with my wife. Oh, and we are going to uproot the kids too tsk tsk (even if you don't have kids).Might want to do a salary calculations to see where you would rank in that market. Since you seem to already have a couple of years experience, then I doubt you would be entry-level Linux/Unix Sys Admin, that should give you some kudos.
The only problem you're looking at is the expense of relocation.
Which most companies will reimburse if you're moving across the country
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@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@NerdyDad said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Interviewer: How much compensation are you looking for?
Travis: To move to Seattle? Let me discuss this life altering decision with my wife. Oh, and we are going to uproot the kids too tsk tsk (even if you don't have kids).Might want to do a salary calculations to see where you would rank in that market. Since you seem to already have a couple of years experience, then I doubt you would be entry-level Linux/Unix Sys Admin, that should give you some kudos.
The only problem you're looking at is the expense of relocation.
Which most companies will reimburse if you're moving across the country
True, most of the more enterprise companies would. SMB's probably not so much, or only limited.
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@NerdyDad said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@NerdyDad said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Interviewer: How much compensation are you looking for?
Travis: To move to Seattle? Let me discuss this life altering decision with my wife. Oh, and we are going to uproot the kids too tsk tsk (even if you don't have kids).Might want to do a salary calculations to see where you would rank in that market. Since you seem to already have a couple of years experience, then I doubt you would be entry-level Linux/Unix Sys Admin, that should give you some kudos.
The only problem you're looking at is the expense of relocation.
Which most companies will reimburse if you're moving across the country
True, most of the more enterprise companies would. SMB's probably not so much, or only limited.
Oh, this would be well outside the SMB space, this company is in the Fortune 500.
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@scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@Dashrender said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
A gallon of gasoline might be $1/gal more in NYC, and milk might be $0.50/gal more, but that doesn't even come close to telling you that the average person can't live in a nice part of town because a shit whole in the nice part of town cost half a mil to start.
Actually it does way more than you think. It's going purely by the cost of housing that makes people think NYC is so expensive when in reality, it's not nearly as bad as you think that it is. Going purely by the cost of housing is a terrible indicator.
Cost of commuting in NYC is generally dirt cheap, for example. And food is often cheap. It costs very little more to live in NYC than it does in most of the US. More, yes, but not as much as Minnesota, for example.
It makes NYC seem crazy expensive when people who live there know that it is a surprisingly affordable city, all things considered.
Now you've lost me. I really have no idea what a person in NYC spends on cabs and the subway compared to a person who owns a car paying for the car/insurance/fuel/maintenance, etc.
But housing is outrageous. Normal'ish restaurants are probably on par to a little more expensive, and food will undoubtly be noticeably more expensive, but not crushingly so.So what does an apt in NYC (in a good neighborhood) cost in rent? $3K/month?
I know I can't really look at where I am - Omaha - we aren't like a hip happenin' city where all the cool kids wanna live.
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@travisdh1 Seattle is not cheap but it is quite a nice city. Depending on where you work look at some of the suburbs - they are super nice.
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@MattSpeller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@travisdh1 Seattle is not cheap but it is quite a nice city. Depending on where you work look at some of the suburbs - they are super nice.
Suburbs dawg
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@scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Most important thing is that it is not NJ.
I only visited NJ and I felt dirty.
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@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Interviewer: How much compensation are you looking for?
Travis: To move to Seattle? Let me discuss this life altering decision with my wife. Oh, and we are going to uproot the kids too tsk tsk (even if you don't have kids).That's great until the xmas party rolls around and everyone expects to see your family. Then, you're stuck hiring a fake one from craigslist and you didn't know your wife was an alcoholic... next thing you know, you're naked in a bathtub with your kidney missing.
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@travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@NerdyDad said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@NerdyDad said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Interviewer: How much compensation are you looking for?
Travis: To move to Seattle? Let me discuss this life altering decision with my wife. Oh, and we are going to uproot the kids too tsk tsk (even if you don't have kids).Might want to do a salary calculations to see where you would rank in that market. Since you seem to already have a couple of years experience, then I doubt you would be entry-level Linux/Unix Sys Admin, that should give you some kudos.
The only problem you're looking at is the expense of relocation.
Which most companies will reimburse if you're moving across the country
True, most of the more enterprise companies would. SMB's probably not so much, or only limited.
Oh, this would be well outside the SMB space, this company is in the Fortune 500.
Then relocation expenses should not be a problem at all.
