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    • stacksofplatesS
      stacksofplates @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

      Obviously the chicken and egg question comes in from a marketing point of view.

      Who will see anything I toot out? But Twitter had the same stigma until it hit some critical mass of popularity.

      hehe you said "I toot"

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @stacksofplates
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        @stacksofplates said in Mastodon:

        @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

        Obviously the chicken and egg question comes in from a marketing point of view.

        Who will see anything I toot out? But Twitter had the same stigma until it hit some critical mass of popularity.

        hehe you said "I toot"

        That is what it is called. I assume because a Mastodon has a trunk.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch
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          Better information on the project is on the wiki page.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastodon_(software)

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

            Obviously the chicken and egg question comes in from a marketing point of view.

            Who will see anything I toot out? But Twitter had the same stigma until it hit some critical mass of popularity.

            Very true. So far, not sure how to even find toots on a Mastodon system if I'm not signed onto one. Anyone seen a public stream anywhere?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

              @scottalanmiller it is not even a replacement for Telegram. it is not semi private or private chat rooms. it is a public social network for short messages.

              Right, it would be more like giving everyone their own dedicated MangoLassi Twitter accounts individually. I mean, that's not a bad thing and it IS interesting. We could have a large "Twitter-like" platform for IT pros to toot about IT stuff. I could see value there, but seems unlikely to work out well. If we had enough people producing enough toots, yeah, it could be cool. But it would take a LOT to make it really work.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:

                @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                @scottalanmiller it is not even a replacement for Telegram. it is not semi private or private chat rooms. it is a public social network for short messages.

                Right, it would be more like giving everyone their own dedicated MangoLassi Twitter accounts individually. I mean, that's not a bad thing and it IS interesting. We could have a large "Twitter-like" platform for IT pros to toot about IT stuff. I could see value there, but seems unlikely to work out well. If we had enough people producing enough toots, yeah, it could be cool. But it would take a LOT to make it really work.

                But it is not a platform only for IT pros unless you restrict the instance to no feed the public timeline. Each instance operator does have that choice of course, so there can be private instances.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:

                  @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                  Obviously the chicken and egg question comes in from a marketing point of view.

                  Who will see anything I toot out? But Twitter had the same stigma until it hit some critical mass of popularity.

                  Very true. So far, not sure how to even find toots on a Mastodon system if I'm not signed onto one. Anyone seen a public stream anywhere?

                  There is a public feed. I have no idea how to view it at this point without a client installed or account on an instance.

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                  • A
                    aidan_walsh @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:

                    @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                    Obviously the chicken and egg question comes in from a marketing point of view.

                    Who will see anything I toot out? But Twitter had the same stigma until it hit some critical mass of popularity.

                    Very true. So far, not sure how to even find toots on a Mastodon system if I'm not signed onto one. Anyone seen a public stream anywhere?

                    There is a public stream API, but I don't know of a website that shows it. I use Tusky on Android and can reach it from there.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:

                      @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                      @scottalanmiller it is not even a replacement for Telegram. it is not semi private or private chat rooms. it is a public social network for short messages.

                      Right, it would be more like giving everyone their own dedicated MangoLassi Twitter accounts individually. I mean, that's not a bad thing and it IS interesting. We could have a large "Twitter-like" platform for IT pros to toot about IT stuff. I could see value there, but seems unlikely to work out well. If we had enough people producing enough toots, yeah, it could be cool. But it would take a LOT to make it really work.

                      But it is not a platform only for IT pros unless you restrict the instance to no feed the public timeline. Each instance operator does have that choice of course, so there can be private instances.

                      I mean you can restrict the sign ups to only IT pro if you want for social.mangolassi.it instance, but that is your call as an instance operator.

                      Just like mastodon.social restricts content based on German and French law (nazi symbolism, etc.).

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:

                        @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                        Obviously the chicken and egg question comes in from a marketing point of view.

                        Who will see anything I toot out? But Twitter had the same stigma until it hit some critical mass of popularity.

                        Very true. So far, not sure how to even find toots on a Mastodon system if I'm not signed onto one. Anyone seen a public stream anywhere?

                        There is a public feed. I have no idea how to view it at this point without a client installed or account on an instance.

                        That's what I mean. I'm sure there is a way, but like is Google checking in on the status or is it hidden away (not in a secure way) that makes it essentially not open to the public. Twitter is very open for anyone to see.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @aidan_walsh
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                          @aidan_walsh said in Mastodon:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:

                          @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                          Obviously the chicken and egg question comes in from a marketing point of view.

                          Who will see anything I toot out? But Twitter had the same stigma until it hit some critical mass of popularity.

                          Very true. So far, not sure how to even find toots on a Mastodon system if I'm not signed onto one. Anyone seen a public stream anywhere?

                          There is a public stream API, but I don't know of a website that shows it. I use Tusky on Android and can reach it from there.

                          So, in theory, we could MAKE a new site that would display it. Not a horrible idea, but not ideal either.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by JaredBusch

                            @scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:

                            @aidan_walsh said in Mastodon:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:

                            @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                            Obviously the chicken and egg question comes in from a marketing point of view.

                            Who will see anything I toot out? But Twitter had the same stigma until it hit some critical mass of popularity.

                            Very true. So far, not sure how to even find toots on a Mastodon system if I'm not signed onto one. Anyone seen a public stream anywhere?

                            There is a public stream API, but I don't know of a website that shows it. I use Tusky on Android and can reach it from there.

                            So, in theory, we could MAKE a new site that would display it. Not a horrible idea, but not ideal either.

                            No one just goes to twitter.com to get information.

                            Either they go to their own feed to view things, or they go to something someone linked them like twitter.com/sorvani or twitter.com/someceleb or twitter.com/somehashtag.

                            So for that second case, some type of public search feed will be useful and it will certainly exist soon if not already (and we just do not know a link).

                            But I do not see your hangup on this point.

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                            • NerdyDadN
                              NerdyDad
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                              I'm just going to leave this here:

                              Youtube Video

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:

                                @aidan_walsh said in Mastodon:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:

                                @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                                Obviously the chicken and egg question comes in from a marketing point of view.

                                Who will see anything I toot out? But Twitter had the same stigma until it hit some critical mass of popularity.

                                Very true. So far, not sure how to even find toots on a Mastodon system if I'm not signed onto one. Anyone seen a public stream anywhere?

                                There is a public stream API, but I don't know of a website that shows it. I use Tusky on Android and can reach it from there.

                                So, in theory, we could MAKE a new site that would display it. Not a horrible idea, but not ideal either.

                                No one just goes to twitter.com to get information.

                                Either they go to their own feed to view things, or they go to something someone linked them like twitter.com/sorvani or twitter.com/someceleb or twitter.com/somehashtag.

                                So for that second case, some type of public search feed will be useful and it will certainly exist soon if not already (and we just do not know a link).

                                But I do not see your hangup on this point.

                                My point is that with Twitter, if I want to see a feed of "everything", I just go to Twitter.com. This isn't popular, but Twitter is "the whole world". But in this case it would just be ML people, so I think that a feed would be the most popular place to go, especially as the traffic would be so low that it would be the only way to see anything interesting. Going directly to individual people is okay, if there is a Twitter-like page for doing so.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by JaredBusch

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:

                                  @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:

                                  @aidan_walsh said in Mastodon:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:

                                  @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                                  Obviously the chicken and egg question comes in from a marketing point of view.

                                  Who will see anything I toot out? But Twitter had the same stigma until it hit some critical mass of popularity.

                                  Very true. So far, not sure how to even find toots on a Mastodon system if I'm not signed onto one. Anyone seen a public stream anywhere?

                                  There is a public stream API, but I don't know of a website that shows it. I use Tusky on Android and can reach it from there.

                                  So, in theory, we could MAKE a new site that would display it. Not a horrible idea, but not ideal either.

                                  No one just goes to twitter.com to get information.

                                  Either they go to their own feed to view things, or they go to something someone linked them like twitter.com/sorvani or twitter.com/someceleb or twitter.com/somehashtag.

                                  So for that second case, some type of public search feed will be useful and it will certainly exist soon if not already (and we just do not know a link).

                                  But I do not see your hangup on this point.

                                  My point is that with Twitter, if I want to see a feed of "everything", I just go to Twitter.com. This isn't popular, but Twitter is "the whole world". But in this case it would just be ML people, so I think that a feed would be the most popular place to go, especially as the traffic would be so low that it would be the only way to see anything interesting. Going directly to individual people is okay, if there is a Twitter-like page for doing so.

                                  Example: https://mastodon.social/tags/mastadon

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller The entire project just kicked off last October.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      And I just found something saying there is some project to let you cross post to twitter.

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                                        No one just goes to twitter.com to get information.

                                        I do 😕

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                                          And I just found something saying there is some project to let you cross post to twitter.

                                          That would be nice.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @Obsolesce
                                            last edited by

                                            @Tim_G said in Mastodon:

                                            @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                                            No one just goes to twitter.com to get information.

                                            I do 😕

                                            What possible intelligent information can be gleaned that way?

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