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    ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules

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    • travisdh1T
      travisdh1 @anthonyh
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      @anthonyh said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

      I've never been big on the whole "VPN" subscription thing, but this may make me consider it. I'm already paying my ISP (AT&T) $60 /month for service...now you're going to sell my browsing history and make even more money off me. I doubt service would improve and/or become less expensive...

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      I always have one browser that uses the TOR proxy. Combine that with private browsing.... better (I still doubt 100% privacy, as we know government runs TOR exit nodes.)

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      • anthonyhA
        anthonyh @travisdh1
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        @travisdh1 I may have to check that out. Though, I think if I was do something to "anonamize" (sp?) my browsing history I'd want to do it at the network level so my family is included. I'll have to look into Tor and/or VPN routers and see what's out there.

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        • travisdh1T
          travisdh1 @anthonyh
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          @anthonyh said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

          @travisdh1 I may have to check that out. Though, I think if I was do something to "anonamize" (sp?) my browsing history I'd want to do it at the network level so my family is included. I'll have to look into Tor and/or VPN routers and see what's out there.

          Well, the reason I only have it setup for a single browser is because of the nature of the TOR network, it moves like molasses in the middle of winter compared to the regular internet connection. If you want a VPN that's not going to slow things down, just pay a provider $5/month.

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          • wirestyle22W
            wirestyle22
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            Tor

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            • NerdyDadN
              NerdyDad
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              VPN somewhere else (such as @scottalanmiller's computer) and then TOR.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
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                I just assumed this was already occurring. While using Tor to reduce the likelyhood of being "known" helps, Tor is painfully slow, and a lot of the features you want the internet for, are completely non-functional. Granted this is because these services aren't built for privacy, but still.

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                • wirestyle22W
                  wirestyle22
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                  It becomes a question of what is important: "enough" anonymity or functionality. Personal choice.

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @wirestyle22
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                    @wirestyle22 said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                    It becomes a question of what is important: "enough" anonymity or functionality. Personal choice.

                    Yep. Which is why I typically have a single browser configured to use it instead of whole systems or networks.

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates
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                      Just spin up a cheap VM and use a dynamic SSH tunnel. Then destroy the VM when you're done.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                        @stacksofplates said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                        Just spin up a cheap VM and use a dynamic SSH tunnel. Then destroy the VM when you're done.

                        Automate that with Ansible and you can have a system of rapidly moving VPN servers on top of everything else! Add a CloudFlare script and you can automate it to set up and destroy and configure DNS every day automatically if you want for a truly difficult to track system. Add Terraform and you could have it randomly pick a different datacenter every day!

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                          @stacksofplates said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                          Just spin up a cheap VM and use a dynamic SSH tunnel. Then destroy the VM when you're done.

                          Automate that with Ansible and you can have a system of rapidly moving VPN servers on top of everything else! Add a CloudFlare script and you can automate it to set up and destroy and configure DNS every day automatically if you want for a truly difficult to track system. Add Terraform and you could have it randomly pick a different datacenter every day!

                          Write up a guide, would you 🙂 Don't skip any steps in between.

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                          • NerdyDadN
                            NerdyDad @stacksofplates
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                            @stacksofplates said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                            Just spin up a cheap VM and use a dynamic SSH tunnel. Then destroy the VM when you're done.

                            One of the reasons why I went with Qubes was for privacy. Spin up a disposable VM script, do what needs to be done, and then close it to shutdown the vm and all of the evidence is gone.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
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                              @NerdyDad said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                              @stacksofplates said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                              Just spin up a cheap VM and use a dynamic SSH tunnel. Then destroy the VM when you're done.

                              One of the reasons why I went with Qubes was for privacy. Spin up a disposable VM script, do what needs to be done, and then close it to shutdown the vm and all of the evidence is gone.

                              You are mixing use cases which makes it a little hard. Qubes has one purpose, running a lab is another.

                              But why not just use KVM, spin up a VM and revert it when done? Same privacy.

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                                aidan_walsh @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller Until they subpoena Cloudflare (or any other provider).

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                                • NerdyDadN
                                  NerdyDad @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                  @NerdyDad said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                  @stacksofplates said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                  Just spin up a cheap VM and use a dynamic SSH tunnel. Then destroy the VM when you're done.

                                  One of the reasons why I went with Qubes was for privacy. Spin up a disposable VM script, do what needs to be done, and then close it to shutdown the vm and all of the evidence is gone.

                                  You are mixing use cases which makes it a little hard. Qubes has one purpose, running a lab is another.

                                  But why not just use KVM, spin up a VM and revert it when done? Same privacy.

                                  You're right there. My original intent was to use it to learn CentOS and other linux server distros. I assumed that, since Qubes was built from Xen, that it should adaquetly support CentOS, but was wrong on that point. However, I have been liking it for a daily Linux driver for its built-in fail safes.

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                                  • mlnewsM
                                    mlnews @aidan_walsh
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                                    @aidan_walsh said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                    @scottalanmiller Until they subpoena Cloudflare (or any other provider).

                                    You assume that CF tracks historical DNS. Likely they do not. Would make no sense.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch
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                                      'Cards Against Humanity' Creator Vows To Buy And Publish Congress's Internet History
                                      http://www.distractify.com/trending/2017/03/29/ZOXB29/temkin-buying-congress-data

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                                      • travisdh1T
                                        travisdh1 @JaredBusch
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                                        @JaredBusch said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                        'Cards Against Humanity' Creator Vows To Buy And Publish Congress's Internet History
                                        http://www.distractify.com/trending/2017/03/29/ZOXB29/temkin-buying-congress-data

                                        Good for Max. Couldn't happen to a nicer set of people.

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                                        • RojoLocoR
                                          RojoLoco @JaredBusch
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                                          @JaredBusch said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                          'Cards Against Humanity' Creator Vows To Buy And Publish Congress's Internet History
                                          http://www.distractify.com/trending/2017/03/29/ZOXB29/temkin-buying-congress-data

                                          I truly hope this happens, and the resulting histories are made public. Then we are one step closer to stringing the offending politricksters up by their short n curlies.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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                                            @JaredBusch said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                            'Cards Against Humanity' Creator Vows To Buy And Publish Congress's Internet History
                                            http://www.distractify.com/trending/2017/03/29/ZOXB29/temkin-buying-congress-data

                                            It's funny that there are only republicans who took money to pass this.

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