iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?
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@scottalanmiller said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
@Minion-Queen said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
I also have the 7plus and am VERY happy with it. The headphone thing that people made a huge deal out of it... umm my headset and or car connections are all Bluetooth so it doesn't affect me at all.
I haven't had an issue with it yet that wasn't something I have caused with stupid apps
It affects me, you can't charge and use headphones at the same time which was a huge portion of my usage. Thankfully the battery lasts for days now, so it isn't the issue that it would have been with the older models, but it is still a huge pain.
I only use wired headphones when my bluetooth headphones are dead.
And point of note, Apple was not the first company to do this. Only the most well known. There was an Android phone with only a USB C port and no headphone port out prior to the iPhone 7
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@stess said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
@scottalanmiller
I had Apple since the 3G era.. and been apple fan ever since. But I do not see any major improvement on the 6s and the 7 beside slight cosmetic.. and processor upgrade. That's my thought. No denying iOS is a very good OS.There was another thread about this. There are improvements like you would expect. The idea that Apple should be totally changing a great design just for the sake of change is... weird. The question we had on the other thread is... so you'd prefer a company that is able to make bigger changes each generation by playing catch up rather than the company that innovated first and got there first? It's like avoiding the best because it can't maintain the rate that it has at the start that got it to be the best. Choosing a product because of "change velocity" rather than "existing quality" is, weird at best. If I made a phone out of cardboard, I could show a "rapid rate of improvement" even though it was total crap.
What do you expect Apple to be doing with a phone? Is someone else innovating in a way that Apple is not? In the other thread, we determined that they are not. You are basically punishing Apple for doing the best job.
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@scottalanmiller said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
@Minion-Queen said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
I also have the 7plus and am VERY happy with it. The headphone thing that people made a huge deal out of it... umm my headset and or car connections are all Bluetooth so it doesn't affect me at all.
I haven't had an issue with it yet that wasn't something I have caused with stupid apps
It affects me, you can't charge and use headphones at the same time which was a huge portion of my usage. Thankfully the battery lasts for days now, so it isn't the issue that it would have been with the older models, but it is still a huge pain.
Problem solved.
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@RojoLoco said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
If you like music, remember that a bluetooth connection doesn't sound anywhere near as good as a physical (1/8") connection. That is the issue with the whole "no headphone jack" thing.... fidelity.
There is still a jack, it's just not the 1/8" form factor. So the fidelity is kept if you plug it in. You just need a third party device if you want to charge and listen at the same time.
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@RojoLoco said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
If you like music, remember that a bluetooth connection doesn't sound anywhere near as good as a physical (1/8") connection. That is the issue with the whole "no headphone jack" thing.... fidelity.
Yes that is true but I don't use my phone to listen to music. Cause it will never be as good as a real stereo.
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@Minion-Queen said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
I also have the 7plus and am VERY happy with it. The headphone thing that people made a huge deal out of it... umm my headset and or car connections are all Bluetooth so it doesn't affect me at all.
I haven't had an issue with it yet that wasn't something I have caused with stupid apps
I have a nice pair of BT headphones,.. sadly they are not what I want to wear shopping at the grocery - although the corded option isn't the greatest either as they get snagged from time to time.
I have a pair of Plantronics BackBeat Go - but the battery life is crappy at 3-4 hours. and nothing I seem to do prevents them from falling out of my ears. Not to mention that now my ears tend to hurt from them or other earbuds.
I've thought of custom earbuds,.. but ugh - not looking for a huge expense either....
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@RojoLoco said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
If you like music, remember that a bluetooth connection doesn't sound anywhere near as good as a physical (1/8") connection. That is the issue with the whole "no headphone jack" thing.... fidelity.
Completely not true. The music you are listening to is already digital. The analog jack is a gimmick in that respect.
If you want good quality, buy good headphones. wired or wireless does not matter.
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@Minion-Queen said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
@RojoLoco said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
If you like music, remember that a bluetooth connection doesn't sound anywhere near as good as a physical (1/8") connection. That is the issue with the whole "no headphone jack" thing.... fidelity.
Yes that is true but I don't use my phone to listen to music. Cause it will never be as good as a real stereo.
Of course it's not, but why add further compromise to the already compromised audio coming out of your phone? MP3 and FLAC files need as much help as possible.
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Apple's direction is actually what I like most. Instead of marketing hype features that are actually often bad or just thrashing, Apple is focusing on what matters - quality. The new device is faster, lasts longer, waterproof, more durable, more stable... exactly what real innovation looks like on a phone (or a computer.) Look at servers, nothing has really "changed" in decades, yet we don't say that Dell, IBM or HPE are not innovating. They put tons and tons of engineering into making them faster, smaller, more power efficient and more reliable. I've not see any real new feature on a server since the late 1990s, but they certainly innovate.
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@JaredBusch said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
@RojoLoco said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
If you like music, remember that a bluetooth connection doesn't sound anywhere near as good as a physical (1/8") connection. That is the issue with the whole "no headphone jack" thing.... fidelity.
Completely not true. The music you are listening to is already digital. The analog jack is a gimmick in that respect.
If you want good quality, buy good headphones. wired or wireless does not matter.
Bluetooth doesn't deliver an audio file in a lossless way. We moved to wired audio for video gaming because of extreme audio quality issues. It's doing on the fly compression, I believe.
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While I have music on my phone I really don't use headphones to listen I connect my phone to my car stereo or speakers here in the house. Music via any phone = not great quality.
I have a couple Echo's in my house as well as an amazing sound system in my living room oh and don't forget the full PA system.
Now @Mike-Ralston has an amazing set of headphones, but not willing to spend $400 plus on headphones. Anything under that stinks and sounds bad
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Got a 7+ and I guess I'll be the third to recommend it. A huge plus was to get the 256GB phone. I never have to worry about space again!!
Not sure if this is a feature reserved for the Plus (too lazy to look), but the slow motion video is a lot of fun to play with!!
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@JaredBusch said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
@RojoLoco said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
If you like music, remember that a bluetooth connection doesn't sound anywhere near as good as a physical (1/8") connection. That is the issue with the whole "no headphone jack" thing.... fidelity.
Completely not true. The music you are listening to is already digital. The analog jack is a gimmick in that respect.
If you want good quality, buy good headphones. wired or wireless does not matter.
Nope, an analog connection is superior because it is not using a compression scheme like BT.
https://www.earbudsaddict.com/knowledge-base/wired-headphones-vs-wireless-headphones/
From the article: "The digital compression which Bluetooth uses is by far the main issue, and the compressed audio simply cannot replicate its wired counterpart."
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@Son-of-Jor-El said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
Got a 7+ and I guess I'll be the third to recommend it. A huge plus was to get the 256GB phone. I never have to worry about space again!!
Not sure if this is a feature reserved for the Plus (too lazy to look), but the slow motion video is a lot of fun to play with!!
I really haven't played with that yet.
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@Minion-Queen said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
While I have music on my phone I really don't use headphones to listen I connect my phone to my car stereo or speakers here in the house. Music via any phone = not great quality.
I have a couple Echo's in my house as well as an amazing sound system in my living room oh and don't forget the full PA system.
Now @Mike-Ralston has an amazing set of headphones, but not willing to spend $400 plus on headphones. Anything under that stinks and sounds bad
Got a couple of Echos as well. Good buy there too!!!
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@Minion-Queen said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
@Son-of-Jor-El said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
Got a 7+ and I guess I'll be the third to recommend it. A huge plus was to get the 256GB phone. I never have to worry about space again!!
Not sure if this is a feature reserved for the Plus (too lazy to look), but the slow motion video is a lot of fun to play with!!
I really haven't played with that yet.
OMG so much fun!!! I went into the White Mountains and had people throw leaves in the air. It was a blast!!
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The point is the lack of headphone jack really isn't an issue if you only use it for Phone needs (such as talking on the phone only).
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@RojoLoco said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
@JaredBusch said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
@RojoLoco said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
If you like music, remember that a bluetooth connection doesn't sound anywhere near as good as a physical (1/8") connection. That is the issue with the whole "no headphone jack" thing.... fidelity.
Completely not true. The music you are listening to is already digital. The analog jack is a gimmick in that respect.
If you want good quality, buy good headphones. wired or wireless does not matter.
Nope, an analog connection is superior because it is not using a compression scheme like BT.
https://www.earbudsaddict.com/knowledge-base/wired-headphones-vs-wireless-headphones/
From the article: "The digital compression which Bluetooth uses is by far the main issue, and the compressed audio simply cannot replicate its wired counterpart."
I found an article talking about the compression too. If you use BT to transfer a FLAC file, of course it just transfers the file. But BT doesn't have enough bandwidth to stream high quality audio, so for real time audio it has its own compression scheme that is "BlueTooth Audio" and it isn't very good.
https://www.lifewire.com/what-to-know-about-bluetooth-3134591
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@scottalanmiller said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
@RojoLoco said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
@JaredBusch said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
@RojoLoco said in iPhone 6 Plus dying... need new phone... suggestion?:
If you like music, remember that a bluetooth connection doesn't sound anywhere near as good as a physical (1/8") connection. That is the issue with the whole "no headphone jack" thing.... fidelity.
Completely not true. The music you are listening to is already digital. The analog jack is a gimmick in that respect.
If you want good quality, buy good headphones. wired or wireless does not matter.
Nope, an analog connection is superior because it is not using a compression scheme like BT.
https://www.earbudsaddict.com/knowledge-base/wired-headphones-vs-wireless-headphones/
From the article: "The digital compression which Bluetooth uses is by far the main issue, and the compressed audio simply cannot replicate its wired counterpart."
I found an article talking about the compression too. If you use BT to transfer a FLAC file, of course it just transfers the file. But BT doesn't have enough bandwidth to stream high quality audio, so for real time audio it has its own compression scheme that is "BlueTooth Audio" and it isn't very good.
https://www.lifewire.com/what-to-know-about-bluetooth-3134591
Exactly. And a copper wire has more than enough bandwidth to carry 24/192k audio and then some.
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I would suggest that if you're happy with Apple, stick with them. If you want to try Android out, the OnePlus 3T may be worth the wait.
