Oracle VM Server versus Xen
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So the boss just asked me to investigate Oracle VM Server, which is (from a very preliminary search) to be a Fork of Xen.
It's a smaller market, with a smaller support base.
Is there any reason at all to investigate this client?
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@DustinB3403 Oracle VM Server seems to be Xen, not XenServer. At least it the document I saw says that the the server and manager are both free, just pay for support if needed.
I don't really see why anyone would use Oracle's version of Xen instead of a standard Xen or XenServer.
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@travisdh1 said:
@DustinB3403 Oracle VM Server seems to be Xen, not XenServer. At least it the document I saw says that the the server and manager are both free, just pay for support if needed.
I don't really see why anyone would use Oracle's version of Xen instead of a standard Xen or XenServer.
Haven't looked into it at all, but it might be like with Oracle Linux. Their selling point is you can use it free, and just buy support when you need it. Unlike with Red Hat where you either have support or don't (CentOS). Maybe this is similar?
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@travisdh1 said:
@DustinB3403 Oracle VM Server seems to be Xen, not XenServer.
yes, always has been. Oracle VM predates XenServer.
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@DustinB3403 said:
So the boss just asked me to investigate Oracle VM Server, which is (from a very preliminary search) to be a Fork of Xen Server.
It's an ancient competitor to XenServer. It's not "bad" but even talking about it is just silly.
What is going on there? Did you just hire some Oracle fanboy?
Why would you get Xen from a third party when XenServer comes from the people who make it?
I know of no upsides to Oracle VM. It's from a time period where different factors existed. It exists today only to service customers already stuck on it.
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@travisdh1 thank you, I just type Xen server instinctively.
@scottalanmiller no Oracle is calling my boss trying to get their foot in the door. I mentioned the very same thing you mentioned, why go to a third party for something we already have.
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I also mentioned that we already have Xen installed, and configured and it's worked great so far besides the array crashing because of a bad disk.
And then it was mentioned "yeah but that's just VM's this is servers" So I replied "a VM is a VM, lets do a test and export one of our Hyper-V VM's and import it into Xen and see how it runs since it runs horribly at the moment anyways"
He said that sounds great!
Of course we're on Hyper-V 08 and I can't export a running VM!
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@DustinB3403 said:
@scottalanmiller no Oracle is calling my boss trying to get their foot in the door. I mentioned the very same thing you mentioned, why go to a third party for something we already have.
Why would he accept that call? I mean that honestly, what crazy situation would have him talk to them?
Totally random people just got my number and tried to sell me stuff. Huh, I think the company that I work for should spend time and money investigating products we would never have considered before just because I like the sales guy more than the company I'm paid to protect from sales guys.
That's the mental conversation I imagine going on leading to this.
I got a spam email from someone trying to sell me raw lumber or something useless to me this morning. I deleted it instead of researching if I had a use for raw lumber. Right now your boss in investing company resources in trying to aid Oracle.
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@scottalanmiller As to why he accepted the call I do not know.
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So I should wipe everything out, and start over with Oracle VM?
Thx will get started now!
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@DustinB3403 said:
So I should wipe everything out, and start over with Oracle VM?
Thx will get started now!
Um, yeah.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@DustinB3403 said:
So I should wipe everything out, and start over with Oracle VM?
Thx will get started now!
Um, yeah.
hah.. scott you're too funny buddy.
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At least Oracle VM isn't that bad, it's just a silly thing to be discussing.
Should we be deploying RHEL 3 today?
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@scottalanmiller Do you have a need for RHEL 3?
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For what it's worth, I completely agree'd with everything said here about it, why do it? There would be no gain etc.
It's all in the OP.
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@DustinB3403 said:
@scottalanmiller Do you have a need for RHEL 3?
Because it is old and pointless, just like Oracle VM is now.
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@DustinB3403 said:
So I should wipe everything out, and start over with Oracle VM?
Thx will get started now!
I know, we should use Red Hat Linux 5.0 Hurricane!
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@travisdh1 said:
@DustinB3403 said:
So I should wipe everything out, and start over with Oracle VM?
Thx will get started now!
I know, we should use Red Hat Linux 5.0 Hurricane!
Wasn't someone on SW running that this week?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@travisdh1 said:
@DustinB3403 said:
So I should wipe everything out, and start over with Oracle VM?
Thx will get started now!
I know, we should use Red Hat Linux 5.0 Hurricane!
Wasn't someone on SW running that this week?
omg, I thought I was joking!
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Really Red Hat Linux 5.0?
SW never ceases to amaze and wonder!
