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    Taxes are to high!

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      Jason Banned @MattSpeller
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      @MattSpeller said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      Yeah, you take home WAY more than we do.

      If you have kids, RRSP, those can hugely alter your taxes (give you back $$$$$$$)

      Also remember that our sales taxes are eye watering, 13% on average for most provinces.

      My income taxes suck because, I'm single and make decent you cane penalized for that here. If I was married or had kids I'd get a lot of breaks.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @Jason
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        @Jason said:

        @MattSpeller said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        Yeah, you take home WAY more than we do.

        If you have kids, RRSP, those can hugely alter your taxes (give you back $$$$$$$)

        Also remember that our sales taxes are eye watering, 13% on average for most provinces.

        My income taxes suck because, I'm single and make decent you cane penalized for that here. If I was married or had kids I'd get a lot of breaks.

        Kids I understand - but married? I suppose PSX's example above said a single person got $6K in deductions, and married/head of house hold filing jointly gets $13K, so there's a tiny advantage.

        Would you get more than that?

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          Jason Banned @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said:

          @Jason said:

          @MattSpeller said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          Yeah, you take home WAY more than we do.

          If you have kids, RRSP, those can hugely alter your taxes (give you back $$$$$$$)

          Also remember that our sales taxes are eye watering, 13% on average for most provinces.

          My income taxes suck because, I'm single and make decent you cane penalized for that here. If I was married or had kids I'd get a lot of breaks.

          Kids I understand - but married? I suppose PSX's example above said a single person got $6K in deductions, and married/head of house hold filing jointly gets $13K, so there's a tiny advantage.

          Would you get more than that?

          Not sure the exact amounts for State level but you get more if you are married and filed jointly.

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            Carnival Boy @larsen161
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            @larsen161 said:

            Looking at the UK at a similar £40k salary just 24% tax on that and healthcare is included. sure vat is higher at 20% but it's already calculated into the costs for goods and food is 0 rated along with a bunch of other stuff.

            the value I get here for the tax I pay is like I've won the lottery compared to when I was in the us. and saying that, the lottery winnings here are 0 rated too - no taxes to pay if you win it big.

            Yeah, but once your salary hits £43k your income tax rate shoots up to 40%.

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              travisdh1 @Carnival Boy
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              @Carnival-Boy said:

              @larsen161 said:

              Looking at the UK at a similar £40k salary just 24% tax on that and healthcare is included. sure vat is higher at 20% but it's already calculated into the costs for goods and food is 0 rated along with a bunch of other stuff.

              the value I get here for the tax I pay is like I've won the lottery compared to when I was in the us. and saying that, the lottery winnings here are 0 rated too - no taxes to pay if you win it big.

              Yeah, but once your salary hits £43k your income tax rate shoots up to 40%.

              That's just painful.

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                dafyre @Jason
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                @Jason said:

                I don't think you can count all deducations since some of those you opt into. Mine would be really high with all the Retirmenet, Company stocks etc I do.

                I Pay 18% in State Income Taxes and 28% in Federal so 46% of my pay goes to taxes.

                That's about me too.

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                  JaredBusch @travisdh1
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                  @travisdh1 said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @JaredBusch said:

                  My tax rate (counting healthcare) is something like 35% when I looked at my last paystub for 2015. Refund this will be about $3k because I forgot to change the amounts last fall like I generally do once I have paid in enough to cover my taxes.

                  That's weird - why would you pay in early? In fact, why not do the opposite, short them as much as possible, bank the cash and send them a check?

                  It's the world's worst savings plan! I've known people who used taxes like a savings account before, not such a great way to go about things. Personally I've got it to the point where it's as close to zero at tax time as possible (normally $40 or so either way.)

                  Because I forgot to adjust my W4 amounts last year. I normally do that about September once I have a solid grip on my expected tax for the year. I have long aimed for a ~$100 owe/refund amount.

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                    larsen161 @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said:

                    My tax rate (counting healthcare) is something like 35% when I looked at my last paystub for 2015. Refund this will be about $3k because I forgot to change the amounts last fall like I generally do once I have paid in enough to cover my taxes.

                    @JaredBusch another perk of the uk - no filing of taxes is generally necessary - the PAYE system keeps track of how much you earn and pay as the year goes on.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @larsen161
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                      @larsen161 said:

                      @JaredBusch said:

                      My tax rate (counting healthcare) is something like 35% when I looked at my last paystub for 2015. Refund this will be about $3k because I forgot to change the amounts last fall like I generally do once I have paid in enough to cover my taxes.

                      @JaredBusch another perk of the uk - no filing of taxes is generally necessary - the PAYE system keeps track of how much you earn and pay as the year goes on.

                      Yeah, that is very nice. Taxes are a huge burden of effort in the US and very easy to get wrong and the onus is totally on the individual to be a tax expert. It's a terrible system.

                      And for those of us abroad, it's a huge pain. I was dealing with tax paperwork today, in fact, and had to drive my family all over just dealing with pointless logistics of tax filing.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch said:

                        @travisdh1 said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @JaredBusch said:

                        My tax rate (counting healthcare) is something like 35% when I looked at my last paystub for 2015. Refund this will be about $3k because I forgot to change the amounts last fall like I generally do once I have paid in enough to cover my taxes.

                        That's weird - why would you pay in early? In fact, why not do the opposite, short them as much as possible, bank the cash and send them a check?

                        It's the world's worst savings plan! I've known people who used taxes like a savings account before, not such a great way to go about things. Personally I've got it to the point where it's as close to zero at tax time as possible (normally $40 or so either way.)

                        Because I forgot to adjust my W4 amounts last year. I normally do that about September once I have a solid grip on my expected tax for the year. I have long aimed for a ~$100 owe/refund amount.

                        If it wasn't for possible penalties, I'd pay zero all year and just write a check every year on April 15, get the interest myself.

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                        • brianlittlejohnB
                          brianlittlejohn @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender When I was self-employed that is what I did... the penalty for not filing my quarterly's was small enough I felt is wasn't worth my time dealing with.

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                            JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said:

                            @JaredBusch said:

                            @travisdh1 said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @JaredBusch said:

                            My tax rate (counting healthcare) is something like 35% when I looked at my last paystub for 2015. Refund this will be about $3k because I forgot to change the amounts last fall like I generally do once I have paid in enough to cover my taxes.

                            That's weird - why would you pay in early? In fact, why not do the opposite, short them as much as possible, bank the cash and send them a check?

                            It's the world's worst savings plan! I've known people who used taxes like a savings account before, not such a great way to go about things. Personally I've got it to the point where it's as close to zero at tax time as possible (normally $40 or so either way.)

                            Because I forgot to adjust my W4 amounts last year. I normally do that about September once I have a solid grip on my expected tax for the year. I have long aimed for a ~$100 owe/refund amount.

                            If it wasn't for possible penalties, I'd pay zero all year and just write a check every year on April 15, get the interest myself.

                            Since April 15 is my birthday, feel free to write me a check too.

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