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    Taxes are to high!

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @Jason
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      @Jason said:

      @MattSpeller said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      Yeah, you take home WAY more than we do.

      If you have kids, RRSP, those can hugely alter your taxes (give you back $$$$$$$)

      Also remember that our sales taxes are eye watering, 13% on average for most provinces.

      My income taxes suck because, I'm single and make decent you cane penalized for that here. If I was married or had kids I'd get a lot of breaks.

      Kids I understand - but married? I suppose PSX's example above said a single person got $6K in deductions, and married/head of house hold filing jointly gets $13K, so there's a tiny advantage.

      Would you get more than that?

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        Jason Banned @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        @Jason said:

        @MattSpeller said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        Yeah, you take home WAY more than we do.

        If you have kids, RRSP, those can hugely alter your taxes (give you back $$$$$$$)

        Also remember that our sales taxes are eye watering, 13% on average for most provinces.

        My income taxes suck because, I'm single and make decent you cane penalized for that here. If I was married or had kids I'd get a lot of breaks.

        Kids I understand - but married? I suppose PSX's example above said a single person got $6K in deductions, and married/head of house hold filing jointly gets $13K, so there's a tiny advantage.

        Would you get more than that?

        Not sure the exact amounts for State level but you get more if you are married and filed jointly.

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          Carnival Boy @larsen161
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          @larsen161 said:

          Looking at the UK at a similar £40k salary just 24% tax on that and healthcare is included. sure vat is higher at 20% but it's already calculated into the costs for goods and food is 0 rated along with a bunch of other stuff.

          the value I get here for the tax I pay is like I've won the lottery compared to when I was in the us. and saying that, the lottery winnings here are 0 rated too - no taxes to pay if you win it big.

          Yeah, but once your salary hits £43k your income tax rate shoots up to 40%.

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @Carnival Boy
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            @Carnival-Boy said:

            @larsen161 said:

            Looking at the UK at a similar £40k salary just 24% tax on that and healthcare is included. sure vat is higher at 20% but it's already calculated into the costs for goods and food is 0 rated along with a bunch of other stuff.

            the value I get here for the tax I pay is like I've won the lottery compared to when I was in the us. and saying that, the lottery winnings here are 0 rated too - no taxes to pay if you win it big.

            Yeah, but once your salary hits £43k your income tax rate shoots up to 40%.

            That's just painful.

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre @Jason
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              @Jason said:

              I don't think you can count all deducations since some of those you opt into. Mine would be really high with all the Retirmenet, Company stocks etc I do.

              I Pay 18% in State Income Taxes and 28% in Federal so 46% of my pay goes to taxes.

              That's about me too.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @travisdh1
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                @travisdh1 said:

                @Dashrender said:

                @JaredBusch said:

                My tax rate (counting healthcare) is something like 35% when I looked at my last paystub for 2015. Refund this will be about $3k because I forgot to change the amounts last fall like I generally do once I have paid in enough to cover my taxes.

                That's weird - why would you pay in early? In fact, why not do the opposite, short them as much as possible, bank the cash and send them a check?

                It's the world's worst savings plan! I've known people who used taxes like a savings account before, not such a great way to go about things. Personally I've got it to the point where it's as close to zero at tax time as possible (normally $40 or so either way.)

                Because I forgot to adjust my W4 amounts last year. I normally do that about September once I have a solid grip on my expected tax for the year. I have long aimed for a ~$100 owe/refund amount.

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                • larsen161L
                  larsen161 @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch said:

                  My tax rate (counting healthcare) is something like 35% when I looked at my last paystub for 2015. Refund this will be about $3k because I forgot to change the amounts last fall like I generally do once I have paid in enough to cover my taxes.

                  @JaredBusch another perk of the uk - no filing of taxes is generally necessary - the PAYE system keeps track of how much you earn and pay as the year goes on.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @larsen161
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                    @larsen161 said:

                    @JaredBusch said:

                    My tax rate (counting healthcare) is something like 35% when I looked at my last paystub for 2015. Refund this will be about $3k because I forgot to change the amounts last fall like I generally do once I have paid in enough to cover my taxes.

                    @JaredBusch another perk of the uk - no filing of taxes is generally necessary - the PAYE system keeps track of how much you earn and pay as the year goes on.

                    Yeah, that is very nice. Taxes are a huge burden of effort in the US and very easy to get wrong and the onus is totally on the individual to be a tax expert. It's a terrible system.

                    And for those of us abroad, it's a huge pain. I was dealing with tax paperwork today, in fact, and had to drive my family all over just dealing with pointless logistics of tax filing.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                      @JaredBusch said:

                      @travisdh1 said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @JaredBusch said:

                      My tax rate (counting healthcare) is something like 35% when I looked at my last paystub for 2015. Refund this will be about $3k because I forgot to change the amounts last fall like I generally do once I have paid in enough to cover my taxes.

                      That's weird - why would you pay in early? In fact, why not do the opposite, short them as much as possible, bank the cash and send them a check?

                      It's the world's worst savings plan! I've known people who used taxes like a savings account before, not such a great way to go about things. Personally I've got it to the point where it's as close to zero at tax time as possible (normally $40 or so either way.)

                      Because I forgot to adjust my W4 amounts last year. I normally do that about September once I have a solid grip on my expected tax for the year. I have long aimed for a ~$100 owe/refund amount.

                      If it wasn't for possible penalties, I'd pay zero all year and just write a check every year on April 15, get the interest myself.

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                      • brianlittlejohnB
                        brianlittlejohn @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender When I was self-employed that is what I did... the penalty for not filing my quarterly's was small enough I felt is wasn't worth my time dealing with.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said:

                          @JaredBusch said:

                          @travisdh1 said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @JaredBusch said:

                          My tax rate (counting healthcare) is something like 35% when I looked at my last paystub for 2015. Refund this will be about $3k because I forgot to change the amounts last fall like I generally do once I have paid in enough to cover my taxes.

                          That's weird - why would you pay in early? In fact, why not do the opposite, short them as much as possible, bank the cash and send them a check?

                          It's the world's worst savings plan! I've known people who used taxes like a savings account before, not such a great way to go about things. Personally I've got it to the point where it's as close to zero at tax time as possible (normally $40 or so either way.)

                          Because I forgot to adjust my W4 amounts last year. I normally do that about September once I have a solid grip on my expected tax for the year. I have long aimed for a ~$100 owe/refund amount.

                          If it wasn't for possible penalties, I'd pay zero all year and just write a check every year on April 15, get the interest myself.

                          Since April 15 is my birthday, feel free to write me a check too.

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