We now have Ads!

Dashrender

uBlock origin really wants me to see this ad....

Yep and I'm totally and completely fine with that.

Dashrender

My only request about ads is that they are hosted on ML, not pulled from an ad stream. Those streams are where all kinds of malware come from, plus tracking and all kinds of slowness.

OH.. do the ads show up on mobile?

scottalanmiller

Oh yeah... get out there and test mobile pages on everything that you can!!

scottalanmiller

@Dashrender said:

My only request about ads is that they are hosted on ML, not pulled from an ad stream.

They are. These are pure images with "a" link tags. We are keeping this light, safe and fast.

coliver

@scottalanmiller said:

@Dashrender said:

My only request about ads is that they are hosted on ML, not pulled from an ad stream.

They are. These are pure images with "a" link tags. We are keeping this light, safe and fast.

That seems like a lot of extra work. Although at least then you can guarantee the content displayed.

Dashrender

I realize it's a ton of extra work, plus many vendors might not allow/want it because then they have to trust ML's numbers and not get them directly from the tracking crap they tack on when you pull from their streams.. but yeah know what F#%@@#'em. I want a light, fast, CLEAN experience.

I hope, Hope, HOPE that doesn't change here.

coliver

@Dashrender said:

I realize it's a ton of extra work, plus many vendors might not allow/want it because then they have to trust ML's numbers and not get them directly from the tracking crap they tack on when you pull from their streams.. but yeah know what F#%@@#'em. I want a light, fast, CLEAN experience.

I hope, Hope, HOPE that doesn't change here.

I doubt it will. Vendors will probably still have a records of ML since they will see what site the inbound link was from, are they called referral links? Look at the link for this xbyte add. It has that right in there.

Minion Queen

On both my iphone and ipad mini the ads show up at the bottom of the screen.

Dashrender

@coliver said:

@Dashrender said:

I realize it's a ton of extra work, plus many vendors might not allow/want it because then they have to trust ML's numbers and not get them directly from the tracking crap they tack on when you pull from their streams.. but yeah know what F#%@@#'em. I want a light, fast, CLEAN experience.

I hope, Hope, HOPE that doesn't change here.

I doubt it will. Vendors will probably still have a records of ML since they will see what site the inbound link was from, are they called referral links? Look at the link for this xbyte add. It has that right in there.

only if you click on it. If you don't click, they know nothing.

Dashrender

@Minion-Queen said:

On both my iphone and ipad mini the ads show up at the bottom of the screen.

That's wacky!

Minion Queen

On the Android tablet they show up on thr side when holding it landscape

coliver

@Dashrender said:

@coliver said:

@Dashrender said:

I realize it's a ton of extra work, plus many vendors might not allow/want it because then they have to trust ML's numbers and not get them directly from the tracking crap they tack on when you pull from their streams.. but yeah know what F#%@@#'em. I want a light, fast, CLEAN experience.

I hope, Hope, HOPE that doesn't change here.

I doubt it will. Vendors will probably still have a records of ML since they will see what site the inbound link was from, are they called referral links? Look at the link for this xbyte add. It has that right in there.

only if you click on it. If you don't click, they know nothing.

Isn't that the same as a normal ad agency? At my last position we didn't get charged by AdSense until someone clicked on our Ad.

Dashrender

@coliver said:

@Dashrender said:

@coliver said:

@Dashrender said:

I realize it's a ton of extra work, plus many vendors might not allow/want it because then they have to trust ML's numbers and not get them directly from the tracking crap they tack on when you pull from their streams.. but yeah know what F#%@@#'em. I want a light, fast, CLEAN experience.

I hope, Hope, HOPE that doesn't change here.

I doubt it will. Vendors will probably still have a records of ML since they will see what site the inbound link was from, are they called referral links? Look at the link for this xbyte add. It has that right in there.

only if you click on it. If you don't click, they know nothing.

Isn't that the same as a normal ad agency? At my last position we didn't get charged by AdSense until someone clicked on our Ad.

@coliver said:

@Dashrender said:

@coliver said:

@Dashrender said:

I realize it's a ton of extra work, plus many vendors might not allow/want it because then they have to trust ML's numbers and not get them directly from the tracking crap they tack on when you pull from their streams.. but yeah know what F#%@@#'em. I want a light, fast, CLEAN experience.

I hope, Hope, HOPE that doesn't change here.

I doubt it will. Vendors will probably still have a records of ML since they will see what site the inbound link was from, are they called referral links? Look at the link for this xbyte add. It has that right in there.

only if you click on it. If you don't click, they know nothing.

Isn't that the same as a normal ad agency? At my last position we didn't get charged by AdSense until someone clicked on our Ad.

Uh no...
most places have a place holder spot.. that spot goes out to, let's say google, and fetches whatever ad is in the rotation.. along with all the tracking crap they also attach to it. so they know that ML pulled a page, and they know it was you because of the tracking. They will also know if you click because of the click itself.

scottalanmiller

@coliver said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@Dashrender said:

My only request about ads is that they are hosted on ML, not pulled from an ad stream.

They are. These are pure images with "a" link tags. We are keeping this light, safe and fast.

That seems like a lot of extra work. Although at least then you can guarantee the content displayed.

It's very little work.

coliver

@Dashrender said:

@coliver said:

@Dashrender said:

@coliver said:

@Dashrender said:

I realize it's a ton of extra work, plus many vendors might not allow/want it because then they have to trust ML's numbers and not get them directly from the tracking crap they tack on when you pull from their streams.. but yeah know what F#%@@#'em. I want a light, fast, CLEAN experience.

I hope, Hope, HOPE that doesn't change here.

I doubt it will. Vendors will probably still have a records of ML since they will see what site the inbound link was from, are they called referral links? Look at the link for this xbyte add. It has that right in there.

only if you click on it. If you don't click, they know nothing.

Isn't that the same as a normal ad agency? At my last position we didn't get charged by AdSense until someone clicked on our Ad.

@coliver said:

@Dashrender said:

@coliver said:

@Dashrender said:

I realize it's a ton of extra work, plus many vendors might not allow/want it because then they have to trust ML's numbers and not get them directly from the tracking crap they tack on when you pull from their streams.. but yeah know what F#%@@#'em. I want a light, fast, CLEAN experience.

I hope, Hope, HOPE that doesn't change here.

I doubt it will. Vendors will probably still have a records of ML since they will see what site the inbound link was from, are they called referral links? Look at the link for this xbyte add. It has that right in there.

only if you click on it. If you don't click, they know nothing.

Isn't that the same as a normal ad agency? At my last position we didn't get charged by AdSense until someone clicked on our Ad.

Uh no...
most places have a place holder spot.. that spot goes out to, let's say google, and fetches whatever ad is in the rotation.. along with all the tracking crap they also attach to it. so they know that ML pulled a page, and they know it was you because of the tracking. They will also know if you click because of the click itself.

Interesting. I've never looked too deeply into it just that we got charged per click and not per view.

scottalanmiller

Depends on the kind of site you are. If you are just doing random ads on a typical site, you go for that pay per click model. If you building brand awareness and working with high profile sites, you do other things.

JaredBusch

really bad CSS layout at the moment..

~1186 wide it shows the add, but with a ton of wasted spaceonthe right.

http://i.imgur.com/rK42g0g.jpg

If I shrink past that, it pops the add to the bottom.
http://i.imgur.com/goyYa89.jpg

Chrome current version.
http://i.imgur.com/7fLYkTH.jpg

stacksofplates

@JaredBusch said:

really bad CSS layout at the moment..

~1186 wide it shows the add, but with a ton of wasted spaceonthe right.

http://i.imgur.com/rK42g0g.jpg

If I shrink past that, it pops the add to the bottom.
http://i.imgur.com/goyYa89.jpg

Chrome current version.
http://i.imgur.com/7fLYkTH.jpg

I tried to re-size the columns with developer tools but everything I tried either forced it to the bottom or pushed the main column further to the left.

DustinB3403

@scottalanmiller Galaxy S6 the ads show up under the topics list.

In a topic, same thing.

At the bottom of the pile. a Horizontal option might be better than the vertical for these...

coliver

@DustinB3403 said:

@scottalanmiller Galaxy S6 the ads show up under the topics list.

In a topic, same thing.

At the bottom of the pile. a Horizontal option might be better than the vertical for these...

I was thinking that or in line with the conversation... although that may break the flow a little bit too much.