@black3dynamite said in Zabbix monitoring:
https://mangolassi.it/topic/10373/install-zabbix-on-centos-7
Sweet. Thanks
I'm in noob mode.... Is there a good step by step for Zabbix?
Simple, direct, easy?
I know, I know...
@scotth said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scotth said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@thwr said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@thwr said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@thwr said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scotth: I will deploy a hybrid SW two node cluster soon. Many other solutions use KVM under the hood, which means that you will have to either script something or do agent based backups.
With Hyper-V, you just use Veeam (or whatever you prefer)
I use agents regardless
And I don't know why, as it conterfeits some of the virtualization fundamentals, IMHO. But I don't want to start this discussion now.
It doesn't. That functionality is in no way part of virtualization or its value. It's just one of the many myths than people have mistakenly add to virtualization.
Even Veeam with Hyper-V/VMware.... there is no universal agentless capability. So if it was an intrinsic part of virtualization, that would imply no virtualization product has been made yet.
Don't you agree that adding agents to each and every guest VM adds to costs and complexity compared to a "simple" hypervisor based backup?
Permit my ignorance please but, Veeam is lightweight, free, and bang -- full / incrementals over two-one week periods, out of the box.
When it works for you, but it doesn't work universally so carries a big risk that people will just use it and not ensure that they have reliable backup methodologies. But agents aren't that much heavier and are also free. And agents can be even lighter.
As part of our upcoming DR solution, this must needs be discussed
Sorry, I've been reading too much fantasy lately.
@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scotth said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@thwr said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@thwr said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@thwr said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scotth: I will deploy a hybrid SW two node cluster soon. Many other solutions use KVM under the hood, which means that you will have to either script something or do agent based backups.
With Hyper-V, you just use Veeam (or whatever you prefer)
I use agents regardless
And I don't know why, as it conterfeits some of the virtualization fundamentals, IMHO. But I don't want to start this discussion now.
It doesn't. That functionality is in no way part of virtualization or its value. It's just one of the many myths than people have mistakenly add to virtualization.
Even Veeam with Hyper-V/VMware.... there is no universal agentless capability. So if it was an intrinsic part of virtualization, that would imply no virtualization product has been made yet.
Don't you agree that adding agents to each and every guest VM adds to costs and complexity compared to a "simple" hypervisor based backup?
Permit my ignorance please but, Veeam is lightweight, free, and bang -- full / incrementals over two-one week periods, out of the box.
When it works for you, but it doesn't work universally so carries a big risk that people will just use it and not ensure that they have reliable backup methodologies. But agents aren't that much heavier and are also free. And agents can be even lighter.
As part of our upcoming DR solution, this must needs be discussed
@thwr said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@thwr said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@thwr said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scotth: I will deploy a hybrid SW two node cluster soon. Many other solutions use KVM under the hood, which means that you will have to either script something or do agent based backups.
With Hyper-V, you just use Veeam (or whatever you prefer)
I use agents regardless
And I don't know why, as it conterfeits some of the virtualization fundamentals, IMHO. But I don't want to start this discussion now.
It doesn't. That functionality is in no way part of virtualization or its value. It's just one of the many myths than people have mistakenly add to virtualization.
Even Veeam with Hyper-V/VMware.... there is no universal agentless capability. So if it was an intrinsic part of virtualization, that would imply no virtualization product has been made yet.
Don't you agree that adding agents to each and every guest VM adds to costs and complexity compared to a "simple" hypervisor based backup?
Permit my ignorance please but, Veeam is lightweight, free, and bang -- full / incrementals over two-one week periods, out of the box.
@thwr said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scotth: I will deploy a hybrid SW two node cluster soon. Many other solutions use KVM under the hood, which means that you will have to either script something or do agent based backups.
With Hyper-V, you just use Veeam (or whatever you prefer)
The closer to turn-key, the better. When we decide, we'll want it in production with all facets planned and implemented.
I'm looking forward to retirement. I may try for a part-time job as a tech.
@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scotth said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scotth said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scotth said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scotth said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
If you do need HA, and you only need the capacity of one node, then you want to be looking primarily at @StarWind_Software
BEcause they focus on the two node scope for their HA / HC systems.This is actually my target for our desired upgrade. I'm currently running ESXi on two DL370 G6's. I'm getting prices for drives to populate the both drive cages so that I can re-purpose the current servers into backup targets. I won't have time to address this until later this spring but I intend to read up on it and talk to vendors during this time.
Good time to update to Hyper-V, too. Starwind is really well integrated with Hyper-V.
We are planning to look at all flavors. I have to admit out loud that I'm really looking forward to try the new XCP-NG on my home lab. I keep thinking that I could try it at work as well. Much research coming.
That is a good option, too.
I updated by host to 7.2 right after I ran the XO install script. I didn't pay attention to what Citrix was doing.
YOu are fine. XCP-NG will be your future step.
And to think that I started on XCP in the 1st place.
I think it was actually 4.9 beta or some such.Well XCP-NG isn't XCP
Even better
@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scotth said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scotth said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scotth said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
If you do need HA, and you only need the capacity of one node, then you want to be looking primarily at @StarWind_Software
BEcause they focus on the two node scope for their HA / HC systems.This is actually my target for our desired upgrade. I'm currently running ESXi on two DL370 G6's. I'm getting prices for drives to populate the both drive cages so that I can re-purpose the current servers into backup targets. I won't have time to address this until later this spring but I intend to read up on it and talk to vendors during this time.
Good time to update to Hyper-V, too. Starwind is really well integrated with Hyper-V.
We are planning to look at all flavors. I have to admit out loud that I'm really looking forward to try the new XCP-NG on my home lab. I keep thinking that I could try it at work as well. Much research coming.
That is a good option, too.
I updated by host to 7.2 right after I ran the XO install script. I didn't pay attention to what Citrix was doing.
YOu are fine. XCP-NG will be your future step.
And to think that I started on XCP in the 1st place.
I think it was actually 4.9 beta or some such.
@bnrstnr said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scotth said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
I updated by host to 7.2 right after I ran the XO install script. I didn't pay attention to what Citrix was doing.
7.2 is still good. 7.3 is the one Citrix crippled.
Cool. I've been holding off running the 7.2 specific updates
@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scotth said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scotth said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
If you do need HA, and you only need the capacity of one node, then you want to be looking primarily at @StarWind_Software
BEcause they focus on the two node scope for their HA / HC systems.This is actually my target for our desired upgrade. I'm currently running ESXi on two DL370 G6's. I'm getting prices for drives to populate the both drive cages so that I can re-purpose the current servers into backup targets. I won't have time to address this until later this spring but I intend to read up on it and talk to vendors during this time.
Good time to update to Hyper-V, too. Starwind is really well integrated with Hyper-V.
We are planning to look at all flavors. I have to admit out loud that I'm really looking forward to try the new XCP-NG on my home lab. I keep thinking that I could try it at work as well. Much research coming.
That is a good option, too.
I updated by host to 7.2 right after I ran the XO install script. I didn't pay attention to what Citrix was doing.
@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scotth said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
If you do need HA, and you only need the capacity of one node, then you want to be looking primarily at @StarWind_Software
BEcause they focus on the two node scope for their HA / HC systems.This is actually my target for our desired upgrade. I'm currently running ESXi on two DL370 G6's. I'm getting prices for drives to populate the both drive cages so that I can re-purpose the current servers into backup targets. I won't have time to address this until later this spring but I intend to read up on it and talk to vendors during this time.
Good time to update to Hyper-V, too. Starwind is really well integrated with Hyper-V.
We are planning to look at all flavors. I have to admit out loud that I'm really looking forward to try the new XCP-NG on my home lab. I keep thinking that I could try it at work as well. Much research coming.
@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:
If you do need HA, and you only need the capacity of one node, then you want to be looking primarily at @StarWind_Software
BEcause they focus on the two node scope for their HA / HC systems.
This is actually my target for our desired upgrade. I'm currently running ESXi on two DL370 G6's. I'm getting prices for drives to populate the both drive cages so that I can re-purpose the current servers into backup targets. I won't have time to address this until later this spring but I intend to read up on it and talk to vendors during this time.
I have different vendors pushing Scale and/or Nutanix. Without really running the numbers deeply, both solutions look to be expensive. Our company isn't tiny. ~85 full time users and much more (devices over 23 locations) besides. I can run everything we need on one VM Host if absolutely needed -- shutting down non-mission-critical VMs can get us through.
I intend to look at both offerings. Honestly, I think they're overkill for us.
@coliver said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@scotth said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@jaredbusch said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@coliver said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@jaredbusch said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@scotth said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
The Wheel of Time series.
Honestly, I wasn't looking for a series like this. I'm pleasantly surprised. It's quite involved and I enjoy the byplay between the characters as well as the varied plot(s), although the constant 'stare that could flay the flesh from your bones' repetition gets tired.How far in?
I liked the series, but it had some issues that never really got answered well. But that all may jsut be due to his death.
Sanderson picked up some if the slack but I don't think he really captured the feel. Which is sad because I'm a huge fan of Sanderson's other work.
Yeah, Sanderson did good, I cannot say otherwise. But it was not his world. It doesn't matter how many notes Jordan made. Sanderson was not in his head.
So I should taper off after Sanderson teams up with Jordan?
Team up is a bit generous. Jordan walked his wife through the rest of the story on his death bed. She took hundreds of pages of notes about how the story should end. Then she interviewed a dozen different fantasy and sci-fi authors. She worked with Sanderson to finish the story, I think he got to meet RJ once or twice and talk to him about the ending but not much more then that.
Sanderson does a decent job he just doesn't tie up all the loose ends, the quality really doesn't drop (I actually think Sanderson is a better writer and it got better). I would recommend reading them just to finish the story but don't expect everything to be neatly wrapped up.
Doesn't sound too terrible. I read the 'fill in' books from the Dune series and was disappointed. The flavor was completely off and I just couldn't incorporate them into the 1st 6 books
@jaredbusch said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@coliver said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@jaredbusch said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@scotth said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
The Wheel of Time series.
Honestly, I wasn't looking for a series like this. I'm pleasantly surprised. It's quite involved and I enjoy the byplay between the characters as well as the varied plot(s), although the constant 'stare that could flay the flesh from your bones' repetition gets tired.How far in?
I liked the series, but it had some issues that never really got answered well. But that all may jsut be due to his death.
Sanderson picked up some if the slack but I don't think he really captured the feel. Which is sad because I'm a huge fan of Sanderson's other work.
Yeah, Sanderson did good, I cannot say otherwise. But it was not his world. It doesn't matter how many notes Jordan made. Sanderson was not in his head.
So I should taper off after Sanderson teams up with Jordan?
@jaredbusch said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@scotth said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
The Wheel of Time series.
Honestly, I wasn't looking for a series like this. I'm pleasantly surprised. It's quite involved and I enjoy the byplay between the characters as well as the varied plot(s), although the constant 'stare that could flay the flesh from your bones' repetition gets tired.How far in?
I liked the series, but it had some issues that never really got answered well. But that all may jsut be due to his death.
Book 6 - The Lord of Chaos.