@JaredBusch said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@justin867 said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@PhlipElder said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

Veeam set up to back up to a Synology RAID 1 NAS with enough storage to meet your recovery point objectives.

Backup file destination should be password protected with read-only access for all accounts but admin and Veeam user.

A pair of NAS devices set up identically could be used to provide an air-gap for the backups.

A small single drive NAS/external enclosure could provide a similar setup.

StarWind Virtual Tape Library set up as a backup destination that can then trickle the backups up to BackBlaze would be one of the least expensive off-site/cloud solutions.

well said! thank you very much.

And doens't mean a damned thing because you never gave any actual detail.

That's your opinion, if Phlipelder is selling me a product. I already start discussing with him the details while the other sellers still asking for questions and doesn't seem to have an idea. I feel most of you guys have an idea but choose to do the "play hard to get" approach. Lol.

@PhlipElder said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

Veeam set up to back up to a Synology RAID 1 NAS with enough storage to meet your recovery point objectives.

Backup file destination should be password protected with read-only access for all accounts but admin and Veeam user.

A pair of NAS devices set up identically could be used to provide an air-gap for the backups.

A small single drive NAS/external enclosure could provide a similar setup.

StarWind Virtual Tape Library set up as a backup destination that can then trickle the backups up to BackBlaze would be one of the least expensive off-site/cloud solutions.

well said! thank you very much.

@scottalanmiller said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@justin867 said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@scottalanmiller said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@justin867 said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@scottalanmiller said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@justin867 said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@scottalanmiller said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@justin867 said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

We will be backing up File Servers VM’s (2TB -3TB). Due to bandwidth limitations, I’m hoping to have offline backup and with an option to backup online when needed.

Let's start with the basics.... what operating system(s), what hypervisor(s), what file server(s)? There can be no meaningful answer without knowing even what is possible.

All M$ servers

Assuming Windows AD DC, Windows "Server" File Server, etc. Only the databases and LOB apps are really up in the air. Which of those are you trying to back up.

We want to backup in case of system crash. Or if we need to fire-up the server at head office.

Exactly, so to protect against a crash, you need a true backup, not a "crash consistent" backup. Crash consistent is all backup software by itself will address, and that does absolutely nothing to protect you from a crash, literally nothing. Because it restores as if you had just crashed. I'm asking these questions specifically so that we can talk about your options to protect against a crash.

Hmmm Sometime the company system will have a database corruption and we will need to restore from the last working backup. That should not be complicated.

Basically it feels like you are saying that you don't need backups, because you already have backups. But that makes no sense. Either you are looking to replace the backups you have, in which case we need to know what the options are. Or you aren't actually trying to take a backup and just need a product called a backup that doesn't actually take the backup in which case just use anything you want since you already have the backups.

I thought its clear when i ask what are my options?

@DustinB3403 said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@justin867 said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@DustinB3403 said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@justin867 why are you being an ask-hole?

Provide answers to the questions we've asked you, or don't ask a question at all. We can't possibly give an answer to what is the "Best Backup solution of 2019" without understanding the entire picture.

Dont focus on the best, you should focus on the options.

rsync, robocopy, xcopy, Urbackup, Acronis, Symantec BackupExec 2003

All of these are options, some which may be fine, some which might get you slapped by SAM for deploying today.

are those appliance?

@DustinB3403 said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@justin867 why are you being an ask-hole?

Provide answers to the questions we've asked you, or don't ask a question at all. We can't possibly give an answer to what is the "Best Backup solution of 2019" without understanding the entire picture.

Dont focus on the best, you should focus on the options.

@DustinB3403 said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

So a windows environment on ESX (not ESXi?) that needs 2-3TB of backup capabilities that offer local and remote storage repositories for backups.

correction ESXi

@scottalanmiller said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@justin867 said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@scottalanmiller said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@justin867 said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@scottalanmiller said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@justin867 said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

We will be backing up File Servers VM’s (2TB -3TB). Due to bandwidth limitations, I’m hoping to have offline backup and with an option to backup online when needed.

Let's start with the basics.... what operating system(s), what hypervisor(s), what file server(s)? There can be no meaningful answer without knowing even what is possible.

All M$ servers

Assuming Windows AD DC, Windows "Server" File Server, etc. Only the databases and LOB apps are really up in the air. Which of those are you trying to back up.

We want to backup in case of system crash. Or if we need to fire-up the server at head office.

Exactly, so to protect against a crash, you need a true backup, not a "crash consistent" backup. Crash consistent is all backup software by itself will address, and that does absolutely nothing to protect you from a crash, literally nothing. Because it restores as if you had just crashed. I'm asking these questions specifically so that we can talk about your options to protect against a crash.

Hmmm Sometime the company system will have a database corruption and we will need to restore from the last working backup. That should not be complicated.

@marcinozga said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@justin867 said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@scottalanmiller said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@justin867 said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@scottalanmiller said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@justin867 said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

We will be backing up File Servers VM’s (2TB -3TB). Due to bandwidth limitations, I’m hoping to have offline backup and with an option to backup online when needed.

Let's start with the basics.... what operating system(s), what hypervisor(s), what file server(s)? There can be no meaningful answer without knowing even what is possible.

All M$ servers

Assuming Windows AD DC, Windows "Server" File Server, etc. Only the databases and LOB apps are really up in the air. Which of those are you trying to back up.

We want to backup in case of system crash. Or if we need to fire-up the server at head office.

You want to backup, just like humans want to drink water, it's essential to business survival, that's all the reason you need.

Yeap, the audit will kill me if i dont have decent backup in this day and age. lol. also, its an assurance for a good night sleep.

@scottalanmiller said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@justin867 said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@scottalanmiller said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@justin867 said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

We will be backing up File Servers VM’s (2TB -3TB). Due to bandwidth limitations, I’m hoping to have offline backup and with an option to backup online when needed.

Let's start with the basics.... what operating system(s), what hypervisor(s), what file server(s)? There can be no meaningful answer without knowing even what is possible.

All M$ servers

Assuming Windows AD DC, Windows "Server" File Server, etc. Only the databases and LOB apps are really up in the air. Which of those are you trying to back up.

We want to backup in case of system crash. Or if we need to fire-up the server at head office.

@scottalanmiller said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@justin867 said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

I have around 12 VM's for DBs, File Servers, DCs, Apps, Media. Retention - 30 days. I'm hoping to get an appliance that can also use to backup online if needed.

Appliance approach is fine, but still requires agents. It's the software that matters. What hypervisor and OSes are these things? Also, no backup software or hardware can blindly back up just anything. DBs especially cannot be ignored, they have to be addressed at the application layer.

ESX

@scottalanmiller said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

@justin867 said in Best Backup Solution for 2019:

We will be backing up File Servers VM’s (2TB -3TB). Due to bandwidth limitations, I’m hoping to have offline backup and with an option to backup online when needed.

Let's start with the basics.... what operating system(s), what hypervisor(s), what file server(s)? There can be no meaningful answer without knowing even what is possible.

All M$ servers

I have around 12 VM's for DBs, File Servers, DCs, Apps, Media. Retention - 30 days. I'm hoping to get an appliance that can also use to backup online if needed.

@DustinB3403 File servers, daily backup.