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      Dashrender @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said in ZeroTier Question:

      @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

      @Dashrender said in ZeroTier Question:

      @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

      @dafyre said in ZeroTier Question:

      @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

      @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier Question:

      @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

      I don't see how I can create a unique A record for the Public Network when it goes through the same DNS as the other two networks.

      You can't. That's why I mentioned having a different DNS server for that network.

      So I would be making an entirely separate network for the Student/Public network on the same internet pipe?

      Time for a dumb question... If we know that they have a URL that works on the Student/Guest side... why not just have them use that URL?

      This is what I have going on for now as https://wls-exchange.wls.wels.net/owa doesn't work off campus. So I have them go to that on campus and mailhost off campus.

      This just wraps you back around to either using the public DNS servers for the Public WiFi, or setting up a separate DNS server for that network.

      So I should just set in the Scope options 8.8.8.8 and 4.4.4.4 as the DNS and see if mailhost works on the Student/Guest network?

      You could, but, if there are any other hostnames that you reference from the Guest network that only exist on your internal DNS, those will no longer function when you make the change.

      the changing of your Core Switch without my massive changes post would be in line with this post.

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        WLS-ITGuy
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        Silly question. Could I just uninstall ZT from the exchange server and all my issues go away?

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          WLS-ITGuy
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          Here is some weird shit.

          New install of ZT on machine off campus. No static IP on the ZT NIC. Mapped Drives work as well as Exchange. WTF!

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            Dashrender @WLS-ITGuy
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            @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

            Silly question. Could I just uninstall ZT from the exchange server and all my issues go away?

            hmm... that's interesting... maybe. let's see it through.

            Local devices in that network will see it fine, because DNS will only have one IP for it, devices on the guest network use the same DNS, so they too will be fixed because only one IP, and people at starbucks will be fine because global DNS is working.

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              JaredBusch @WLS-ITGuy
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              @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

              Here is some weird shit.

              New install of ZT on machine off campus. No static IP on the ZT NIC. Mapped Drives work as well as Exchange. WTF!

              Yes. That is how they should work.

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                Dashrender @WLS-ITGuy
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                @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                Here is some weird shit.

                New install of ZT on machine off campus. No static IP on the ZT NIC. Mapped Drives work as well as Exchange. WTF!

                it's the round robin DNS thing.. aka you got lucky!

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                  JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said in ZeroTier Question:

                  @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                  Here is some weird shit.

                  New install of ZT on machine off campus. No static IP on the ZT NIC. Mapped Drives work as well as Exchange. WTF!

                  it's the round robin DNS thing.. aka you got lucky!

                  I assumed form the statement that he changed no DNS settings.

                  If that is the case, then it is NetBIOS over ZeroTier.
                  If he changed the DNS , then yeah, a crapshoot.

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                    WLS-ITGuy @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier Question:

                    @Dashrender said in ZeroTier Question:

                    @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                    Here is some weird shit.

                    New install of ZT on machine off campus. No static IP on the ZT NIC. Mapped Drives work as well as Exchange. WTF!

                    it's the round robin DNS thing.. aka you got lucky!

                    I assumed form the statement that he changed no DNS settings.

                    If that is the case, then it is NetBIOS over ZeroTier.
                    If he changed the DNS , then yeah, a crapshoot.

                    I have made no DNS changes since I was told to do FQDN names yesterday.

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                      JaredBusch @WLS-ITGuy
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                      @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                      @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier Question:

                      @Dashrender said in ZeroTier Question:

                      @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                      Here is some weird shit.

                      New install of ZT on machine off campus. No static IP on the ZT NIC. Mapped Drives work as well as Exchange. WTF!

                      it's the round robin DNS thing.. aka you got lucky!

                      I assumed form the statement that he changed no DNS settings.

                      If that is the case, then it is NetBIOS over ZeroTier.
                      If he changed the DNS , then yeah, a crapshoot.

                      I have made no DNS changes since I was told to do FQDN names yesterday.

                      I was referring to the client you just set up. did you change his ZeroTier adapter to have a DNS value? Not to changing server side DNS settings.

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                        WLS-ITGuy @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier Question:

                        @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                        @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier Question:

                        @Dashrender said in ZeroTier Question:

                        @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                        Here is some weird shit.

                        New install of ZT on machine off campus. No static IP on the ZT NIC. Mapped Drives work as well as Exchange. WTF!

                        it's the round robin DNS thing.. aka you got lucky!

                        I assumed form the statement that he changed no DNS settings.

                        If that is the case, then it is NetBIOS over ZeroTier.
                        If he changed the DNS , then yeah, a crapshoot.

                        I have made no DNS changes since I was told to do FQDN names yesterday.

                        I was referring to the client you just set up. did you change his ZeroTier adapter to have a DNS value? Not to changing server side DNS settings.

                        Sorry - When I said no Static IP on the ZT NIC I meant didn't set static DNS.

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                          JaredBusch @WLS-ITGuy
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                          @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                          @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier Question:

                          @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                          @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier Question:

                          @Dashrender said in ZeroTier Question:

                          @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                          Here is some weird shit.

                          New install of ZT on machine off campus. No static IP on the ZT NIC. Mapped Drives work as well as Exchange. WTF!

                          it's the round robin DNS thing.. aka you got lucky!

                          I assumed form the statement that he changed no DNS settings.

                          If that is the case, then it is NetBIOS over ZeroTier.
                          If he changed the DNS , then yeah, a crapshoot.

                          I have made no DNS changes since I was told to do FQDN names yesterday.

                          I was referring to the client you just set up. did you change his ZeroTier adapter to have a DNS value? Not to changing server side DNS settings.

                          Sorry - When I said no Static IP on the ZT NIC I meant didn't set static DNS.

                          Good, then you are working as it is intended. You are resolving things by NetBIOS.

                          DNS has nothing to do with it since you did not set an address.

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                            WLS-ITGuy @JaredBusch
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                            @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier Question:

                            @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                            @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier Question:

                            @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                            @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier Question:

                            @Dashrender said in ZeroTier Question:

                            @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                            Here is some weird shit.

                            New install of ZT on machine off campus. No static IP on the ZT NIC. Mapped Drives work as well as Exchange. WTF!

                            it's the round robin DNS thing.. aka you got lucky!

                            I assumed form the statement that he changed no DNS settings.

                            If that is the case, then it is NetBIOS over ZeroTier.
                            If he changed the DNS , then yeah, a crapshoot.

                            I have made no DNS changes since I was told to do FQDN names yesterday.

                            I was referring to the client you just set up. did you change his ZeroTier adapter to have a DNS value? Not to changing server side DNS settings.

                            Sorry - When I said no Static IP on the ZT NIC I meant didn't set static DNS.

                            Good, then you are working as it is intended. You are resolving things by NetBIOS.

                            DNS has nothing to do with it since you did not set an address.

                            OK

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                              WLS-ITGuy @JaredBusch
                              last edited by WLS-ITGuy

                              @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier Question:

                              @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                              @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier Question:

                              @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                              @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier Question:

                              @Dashrender said in ZeroTier Question:

                              @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                              Here is some weird shit.

                              New install of ZT on machine off campus. No static IP on the ZT NIC. Mapped Drives work as well as Exchange. WTF!

                              it's the round robin DNS thing.. aka you got lucky!

                              I assumed form the statement that he changed no DNS settings.

                              If that is the case, then it is NetBIOS over ZeroTier.
                              If he changed the DNS , then yeah, a crapshoot.

                              I have made no DNS changes since I was told to do FQDN names yesterday.

                              I was referring to the client you just set up. did you change his ZeroTier adapter to have a DNS value? Not to changing server side DNS settings.

                              Sorry - When I said no Static IP on the ZT NIC I meant didn't set static DNS.

                              Good, then you are working as it is intended. You are resolving things by NetBIOS.

                              DNS has nothing to do with it since you did not set an address.

                              But shouldn't the other machines be working in the same fashion?

                              I mean without the static DNS settings?

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                                JaredBusch @WLS-ITGuy
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                                @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                                @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier Question:

                                @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                                @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier Question:

                                @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                                @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier Question:

                                @Dashrender said in ZeroTier Question:

                                @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                                Here is some weird shit.

                                New install of ZT on machine off campus. No static IP on the ZT NIC. Mapped Drives work as well as Exchange. WTF!

                                it's the round robin DNS thing.. aka you got lucky!

                                I assumed form the statement that he changed no DNS settings.

                                If that is the case, then it is NetBIOS over ZeroTier.
                                If he changed the DNS , then yeah, a crapshoot.

                                I have made no DNS changes since I was told to do FQDN names yesterday.

                                I was referring to the client you just set up. did you change his ZeroTier adapter to have a DNS value? Not to changing server side DNS settings.

                                Sorry - When I said no Static IP on the ZT NIC I meant didn't set static DNS.

                                Good, then you are working as it is intended. You are resolving things by NetBIOS.

                                DNS has nothing to do with it since you did not set an address.

                                But shouldn't the other machines be working in the same fashion?

                                I mean without the static DNS settings?

                                Yes. Your one specific non working example was getting a DNS result from its local connection and was causing your problem. I suspect something was resolving weird from the AT&T IPv6 DNS that was listed.

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                                  Dashrender
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                                  But relying on NetBIOS - come on, really? I don't want to hang my hat on that nail.

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                                    adam.ierymenko
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                                    Just wanted to ask how this was going in general.

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                                      WLS-ITGuy @adam.ierymenko
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                                      @adam.ierymenko

                                      It is quite odd. I have a few machines that are working without static DNS set for the ZeroTier NIC. But most mapped drives do not work unless I have static DNS set but then Exchange doesn't work.

                                      Jeff

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                                        Dashrender @WLS-ITGuy
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                                        @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                                        @adam.ierymenko

                                        It is quite odd. I have a few machines that are working without static DNS set for the ZeroTier NIC. But most mapped drives do not work unless I have static DNS set but then Exchange doesn't work.

                                        Jeff

                                        Does the FQDN that you use for Outlook/OWA exist the same on your internal and external networks? But first, is your internal domain name the same as your external one? i.e. Spit horizon?

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                                          WLS-ITGuy @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said in ZeroTier Question:

                                          @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                                          @adam.ierymenko

                                          It is quite odd. I have a few machines that are working without static DNS set for the ZeroTier NIC. But most mapped drives do not work unless I have static DNS set but then Exchange doesn't work.

                                          Jeff

                                          Does the FQDN that you use for Outlook/OWA exist the same on your internal and external networks? But first, is your internal domain name the same as your external one? i.e. Spit horizon?

                                          Yes, unfortunately, the domain was set up before I got here. wls.wels.net - I wanted to change it but knew it would be a huge undertaking and wasn't sure I wanted to do that in my first 4 months. I am thinking of redesigning the domain structure from the ground up this summer.

                                          The FQDN internal is wls-exchange.wls.wels.net and the external is mailhost.wls.wels.net

                                          Jeff

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                                            WLS-ITGuy
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                                            I would assume that DNS only has a small role in the issue. I have both internal DNS servers set in ZT with FQDNs but I have 3 or 4 that cannot see mapped drives. using the FQDN.

                                            Would it make sense to map the drives using the ZT ip?

                                            Jeff

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