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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch
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      Yet ML is still not https...........

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        I have to say that my opinions on blanket drive encryption aside, I do agree with the idea that encrypting everything is an important means by which we make encryption less of a special case and keep the government from trying to disable it.

        I've been saying this for 2 years.

        This is why I asked about ML going to an SSL/TLS connection when we started. πŸ™‚

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        • MattSpellerM
          MattSpeller
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          I'm waiting for a smart world leader to stand up and say "Encrypt everything, because it benefits us far more and seriously hurts dictators / fascists and anyone seeking to block free speech"

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          • RojoLocoR
            RojoLoco @MattSpeller
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            @MattSpeller said:

            I'm waiting for a smart world leader to stand up and say "Encrypt everything, because it benefits us far more and seriously hurts dictators / fascists and anyone seeking to block free speech"

            I'm waiting for a smart world leader to exist..... still waiting.....

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            • MattSpellerM
              MattSpeller @RojoLoco
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              @RojoLoco said:

              @MattSpeller said:

              I'm waiting for a smart world leader to stand up and say "Encrypt everything, because it benefits us far more and seriously hurts dictators / fascists and anyone seeking to block free speech"

              I'm waiting for a smart world leader to exist..... still waiting.....

              One does not get to be a world leader without some measure of smarts. I'm willing to provide the exception that proves the rule: GWBush

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                @MattSpeller said:

                One does not get to be a world leader without some measure of smarts.

                I don't agree with that. Traditionally and still today many people are simply born into it. King George III was a literally nutter and would struggle to hold down an intelligent, casual conversation. He couldn't even pass off as being cognizant much of the time. And he led an empire.

                In the hereditary world, it takes zero mental capacity to be a world leader. Dead people have even pulled it off. In the democratic world, being smart almost certainly bars you from office as the average person is put off by smart people. Democracies naturally promote the worst, not the best.

                And that's before we address puppets.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                  @MattSpeller said:

                  I'm waiting for a smart world leader to stand up and say "Encrypt everything, because it benefits us far more and seriously hurts dictators / fascists and anyone seeking to block free speech"

                  A smart leader is not enough. You need both a smart and an altruistic leader.

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                  • RojoLocoR
                    RojoLoco @MattSpeller
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                    @MattSpeller even if they have smarts, they get there by influence and dirty trickery. Peter Tosh said it best when he called them "politricksters". GW Bush is precisely why I quit watching the news...

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
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                      @RojoLoco said:

                      @MattSpeller even if they have smarts, they get there by influence and dirty trickery. Peter Tosh said it best when he called them "politricksters". GW Bush is precisely why I quit watching the news...

                      I don't know, it would only be trickery if the public didn't want it. They very clearly do. So it is just good customer service at this point.

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                      • MattSpellerM
                        MattSpeller @RojoLoco
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                        @RojoLoco said:

                        @MattSpeller even if they have smarts, they get there by influence and dirty trickery. Peter Tosh said it best when he called them "politricksters". GW Bush is precisely why I quit watching the news...

                        Oh, I made no reference as to what category of smarts they have πŸ™‚

                        Dirty underhanded wankery is a category for contention.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @RojoLoco said:

                          @MattSpeller even if they have smarts, they get there by influence and dirty trickery. Peter Tosh said it best when he called them "politricksters". GW Bush is precisely why I quit watching the news...

                          I don't know, it would only be trickery if the public didn't want it. They very clearly do. So it is just good customer service at this point.

                          I don't consider this entirely fair. There are plenty of laws that if the public was fully aware of the laws said and meant, they wouldn't get passed.

                          It's like ObamaCare where Pelosi said, "We have to pass the Bill so that you can find out what's in it"

                          Come on, really?

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                          • MattSpellerM
                            MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @MattSpeller said:

                            I'm waiting for a smart world leader to stand up and say "Encrypt everything, because it benefits us far more and seriously hurts dictators / fascists and anyone seeking to block free speech"

                            A smart leader is not enough. You need both a smart and an altruistic leader.

                            My only point is you don't see any 60 IQ knuckle draggers getting elected to lead countries.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
                              last edited by

                              @MattSpeller said:

                              @RojoLoco said:

                              @MattSpeller even if they have smarts, they get there by influence and dirty trickery. Peter Tosh said it best when he called them "politricksters". GW Bush is precisely why I quit watching the news...

                              Oh, I made no reference as to what category of smarts they have πŸ™‚

                              Dirty underhanded wankery is a category for contention.

                              Not necessarily smarts. Often just pawns.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @RojoLoco said:

                                @MattSpeller even if they have smarts, they get there by influence and dirty trickery. Peter Tosh said it best when he called them "politricksters". GW Bush is precisely why I quit watching the news...

                                I don't know, it would only be trickery if the public didn't want it. They very clearly do. So it is just good customer service at this point.

                                I don't consider this entirely fair. There are plenty of laws that if the public was fully aware of the laws said and meant, they wouldn't get passed.

                                It's like ObamaCare where Pelosi said, "We have to pass the Bill so that you can find out what's in it"

                                Come on, really?

                                To some degree. But then, someone voted every one of the people that made that situation into office.

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                                • MattSpellerM
                                  MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @MattSpeller said:

                                  @RojoLoco said:

                                  @MattSpeller even if they have smarts, they get there by influence and dirty trickery. Peter Tosh said it best when he called them "politricksters". GW Bush is precisely why I quit watching the news...

                                  Oh, I made no reference as to what category of smarts they have πŸ™‚

                                  Dirty underhanded wankery is a category for contention.

                                  Not necessarily smarts. Often just pawns.

                                  Most of the origin stories I've heard for Putin would fit that

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @MattSpeller
                                    last edited by

                                    @MattSpeller said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @MattSpeller said:

                                    @RojoLoco said:

                                    @MattSpeller even if they have smarts, they get there by influence and dirty trickery. Peter Tosh said it best when he called them "politricksters". GW Bush is precisely why I quit watching the news...

                                    Oh, I made no reference as to what category of smarts they have πŸ™‚

                                    Dirty underhanded wankery is a category for contention.

                                    Not necessarily smarts. Often just pawns.

                                    Most of the origin stories I've heard for Putin would fit that

                                    And most of the rest of the elected officials!

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
                                      last edited by

                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      I'm waiting for a smart world leader to stand up and say "Encrypt everything, because it benefits us far more and seriously hurts dictators / fascists and anyone seeking to block free speech"

                                      A smart leader is not enough. You need both a smart and an altruistic leader.

                                      My only point is you don't see any 60 IQ knuckle draggers getting elected to lead countries.

                                      I sure do. Are you not looking?

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
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                                        β€œWhen the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic.” Benjamin Franklin

                                        We are very nearly there now.

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                                        • MattSpellerM
                                          MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @MattSpeller said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @MattSpeller said:

                                          I'm waiting for a smart world leader to stand up and say "Encrypt everything, because it benefits us far more and seriously hurts dictators / fascists and anyone seeking to block free speech"

                                          A smart leader is not enough. You need both a smart and an altruistic leader.

                                          My only point is you don't see any 60 IQ knuckle draggers getting elected to lead countries.

                                          I sure do. Are you not looking?

                                          Take my hand and show me what thou hast seen

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                                          • dafyreD
                                            dafyre @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @RojoLoco said:

                                            @MattSpeller even if they have smarts, they get there by influence and dirty trickery. Peter Tosh said it best when he called them "politricksters". GW Bush is precisely why I quit watching the news...

                                            I don't know, it would only be trickery if the public didn't want it. They very clearly do. So it is just good customer service at this point.

                                            I don't consider this entirely fair. There are plenty of laws that if the public was fully aware of the laws said and meant, they wouldn't get passed.

                                            It's like ObamaCare where Pelosi said, "We have to pass the Bill so that you can find out what's in it"

                                            Come on, really?

                                            To some degree. But then, someone voted every one of the people that made that situation into office.

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @MattSpeller said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @MattSpeller said:

                                            I'm waiting for a smart world leader to stand up and say "Encrypt everything, because it benefits us far more and seriously hurts dictators / fascists and anyone seeking to block free speech"

                                            A smart leader is not enough. You need both a smart and an altruistic leader.

                                            My only point is you don't see any 60 IQ knuckle draggers getting elected to lead countries.

                                            I sure do. Are you not looking?

                                            Never underestimate the power of stupid politicians in large numbers.

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