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    • RojoLocoR
      RojoLoco @MattSpeller
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      @MattSpeller even if they have smarts, they get there by influence and dirty trickery. Peter Tosh said it best when he called them "politricksters". GW Bush is precisely why I quit watching the news...

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
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        @RojoLoco said:

        @MattSpeller even if they have smarts, they get there by influence and dirty trickery. Peter Tosh said it best when he called them "politricksters". GW Bush is precisely why I quit watching the news...

        I don't know, it would only be trickery if the public didn't want it. They very clearly do. So it is just good customer service at this point.

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        • MattSpellerM
          MattSpeller @RojoLoco
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          @RojoLoco said:

          @MattSpeller even if they have smarts, they get there by influence and dirty trickery. Peter Tosh said it best when he called them "politricksters". GW Bush is precisely why I quit watching the news...

          Oh, I made no reference as to what category of smarts they have πŸ™‚

          Dirty underhanded wankery is a category for contention.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @RojoLoco said:

            @MattSpeller even if they have smarts, they get there by influence and dirty trickery. Peter Tosh said it best when he called them "politricksters". GW Bush is precisely why I quit watching the news...

            I don't know, it would only be trickery if the public didn't want it. They very clearly do. So it is just good customer service at this point.

            I don't consider this entirely fair. There are plenty of laws that if the public was fully aware of the laws said and meant, they wouldn't get passed.

            It's like ObamaCare where Pelosi said, "We have to pass the Bill so that you can find out what's in it"

            Come on, really?

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            • MattSpellerM
              MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              @MattSpeller said:

              I'm waiting for a smart world leader to stand up and say "Encrypt everything, because it benefits us far more and seriously hurts dictators / fascists and anyone seeking to block free speech"

              A smart leader is not enough. You need both a smart and an altruistic leader.

              My only point is you don't see any 60 IQ knuckle draggers getting elected to lead countries.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
                last edited by

                @MattSpeller said:

                @RojoLoco said:

                @MattSpeller even if they have smarts, they get there by influence and dirty trickery. Peter Tosh said it best when he called them "politricksters". GW Bush is precisely why I quit watching the news...

                Oh, I made no reference as to what category of smarts they have πŸ™‚

                Dirty underhanded wankery is a category for contention.

                Not necessarily smarts. Often just pawns.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @RojoLoco said:

                  @MattSpeller even if they have smarts, they get there by influence and dirty trickery. Peter Tosh said it best when he called them "politricksters". GW Bush is precisely why I quit watching the news...

                  I don't know, it would only be trickery if the public didn't want it. They very clearly do. So it is just good customer service at this point.

                  I don't consider this entirely fair. There are plenty of laws that if the public was fully aware of the laws said and meant, they wouldn't get passed.

                  It's like ObamaCare where Pelosi said, "We have to pass the Bill so that you can find out what's in it"

                  Come on, really?

                  To some degree. But then, someone voted every one of the people that made that situation into office.

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                  • MattSpellerM
                    MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by MattSpeller

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @MattSpeller said:

                    @RojoLoco said:

                    @MattSpeller even if they have smarts, they get there by influence and dirty trickery. Peter Tosh said it best when he called them "politricksters". GW Bush is precisely why I quit watching the news...

                    Oh, I made no reference as to what category of smarts they have πŸ™‚

                    Dirty underhanded wankery is a category for contention.

                    Not necessarily smarts. Often just pawns.

                    Most of the origin stories I've heard for Putin would fit that

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @MattSpeller
                      last edited by

                      @MattSpeller said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @MattSpeller said:

                      @RojoLoco said:

                      @MattSpeller even if they have smarts, they get there by influence and dirty trickery. Peter Tosh said it best when he called them "politricksters". GW Bush is precisely why I quit watching the news...

                      Oh, I made no reference as to what category of smarts they have πŸ™‚

                      Dirty underhanded wankery is a category for contention.

                      Not necessarily smarts. Often just pawns.

                      Most of the origin stories I've heard for Putin would fit that

                      And most of the rest of the elected officials!

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
                        last edited by

                        @MattSpeller said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @MattSpeller said:

                        I'm waiting for a smart world leader to stand up and say "Encrypt everything, because it benefits us far more and seriously hurts dictators / fascists and anyone seeking to block free speech"

                        A smart leader is not enough. You need both a smart and an altruistic leader.

                        My only point is you don't see any 60 IQ knuckle draggers getting elected to lead countries.

                        I sure do. Are you not looking?

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
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                          β€œWhen the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic.” Benjamin Franklin

                          We are very nearly there now.

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                          • MattSpellerM
                            MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @MattSpeller said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @MattSpeller said:

                            I'm waiting for a smart world leader to stand up and say "Encrypt everything, because it benefits us far more and seriously hurts dictators / fascists and anyone seeking to block free speech"

                            A smart leader is not enough. You need both a smart and an altruistic leader.

                            My only point is you don't see any 60 IQ knuckle draggers getting elected to lead countries.

                            I sure do. Are you not looking?

                            Take my hand and show me what thou hast seen

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @RojoLoco said:

                              @MattSpeller even if they have smarts, they get there by influence and dirty trickery. Peter Tosh said it best when he called them "politricksters". GW Bush is precisely why I quit watching the news...

                              I don't know, it would only be trickery if the public didn't want it. They very clearly do. So it is just good customer service at this point.

                              I don't consider this entirely fair. There are plenty of laws that if the public was fully aware of the laws said and meant, they wouldn't get passed.

                              It's like ObamaCare where Pelosi said, "We have to pass the Bill so that you can find out what's in it"

                              Come on, really?

                              To some degree. But then, someone voted every one of the people that made that situation into office.

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @MattSpeller said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @MattSpeller said:

                              I'm waiting for a smart world leader to stand up and say "Encrypt everything, because it benefits us far more and seriously hurts dictators / fascists and anyone seeking to block free speech"

                              A smart leader is not enough. You need both a smart and an altruistic leader.

                              My only point is you don't see any 60 IQ knuckle draggers getting elected to lead countries.

                              I sure do. Are you not looking?

                              Never underestimate the power of stupid politicians in large numbers.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill
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                                Yeah, you go article!

                                SED and encrypted USB sticks.

                                I love it!

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                                • jospoortvlietJ
                                  jospoortvliet Vendor @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller

                                  In the hereditary world, it takes zero mental capacity to be a world leader. Dead people have even pulled it off. In the democratic world, being smart almost certainly bars you from office as the average person is put off by smart people. Democracies naturally promote the worst, not the best.

                                  I don't really agree with that. I think that, for office, you have to have some smarts. It's problematic to come off as intellectual, yes, that is certainly true. But actual stupidity doesn't pay. I think it pays to be good at looking stupid while playing 'the game' very well.

                                  Not saying that office attracts the SMARTEST people, though, nor the kindest or best. And about the puppets, Frank Herbert said: Power does not corrupt, but power attracts the corruptible. If he is right, we should elect people for office who aren't interested πŸ˜‰

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre @jospoortvliet
                                    last edited by

                                    @jospoortvliet said:

                                    Not saying that office attracts the SMARTEST people, though, nor the kindest or best. And about the puppets, Frank Herbert said: Power does not corrupt, but power attracts the corruptible. If he is right, we should elect people for office who aren't interested πŸ˜‰

                                    This is why there has often been suggestions of Write-Ins for Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck. πŸ™‚

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                                    • M
                                      marcinozga @MattSpeller
                                      last edited by

                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      I'm waiting for a smart world leader to stand up and say "Encrypt everything, because it benefits us far more and seriously hurts dictators / fascists and anyone seeking to block free speech"

                                      A smart leader is not enough. You need both a smart and an altruistic leader.

                                      My only point is you don't see any 60 IQ knuckle draggers getting elected to lead countries.

                                      Come on, give Donald a chance πŸ™‚

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @jospoortvliet
                                        last edited by

                                        @jospoortvliet said:

                                        And about the puppets, Frank Herbert said: Power does not corrupt, but power attracts the corruptible. If he is right, we should elect people for office who aren't interested πŸ˜‰

                                        Which is why hereditary monarchies work as well as they do. The people in power never tried to get there, they just ended up there. Showing that random chance often works better than the public deciding!

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                                        • art_of_shredA
                                          art_of_shred Banned @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @RojoLoco said:

                                          @MattSpeller even if they have smarts, they get there by influence and dirty trickery. Peter Tosh said it best when he called them "politricksters". GW Bush is precisely why I quit watching the news...

                                          I don't know, it would only be trickery if the public didn't want it. They very clearly do. So it is just good customer service at this point.

                                          I don't consider this entirely fair. There are plenty of laws that if the public was fully aware of the laws said and meant, they wouldn't get passed.

                                          It's like ObamaCare where Pelosi said, "We have to pass the Bill so that you can find out what's in it"

                                          Come on, really?

                                          To some degree. But then, someone voted every one of the people that made that situation into office.

                                          If you discount rigged elections. And don't tell me you think they're all legit.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            That's true, corruption and election rigging can sometimes bypass the idiocy of the populace and let a smart person, rather than a popular one, make it to the office πŸ˜‰

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