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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
      last edited by

      @DustinB3403 said:

      So really my only choice would be something like a R720XD.

      Loaded with 12 6TB SATA drives in RAID 10.

      Why not an R510, much cheaper.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
        last edited by

        Plus moving as much data as we have off weekly the write speed gain would be worth it.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @DustinB3403 said:

          It's a matter of reliability.

          Using consumer grade SATA drives RAID10 seems to make more sense, doesn't it?

          Check the price of RE drives in RAID 6. Might be cheaper with 12 drives.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
            last edited by DustinB3403

            Western Digital Red's at 4TB (12 in total) would cost ~$1800.

            At RAID 6

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @DustinB3403 said:

              Western Digital Red's at 4TB (12 in total) would cost ~$1800.

              At RAID 6

              So WD Red (Consumer 5400 RPM) for 24TB is $1800.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                WD RE (Enterprise) in RAID 6 would be 30TB for $1884.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  So Red would be just barely cheaper, RE would be just barely larger. Red would be faster for random writes. RE way faster for reads.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    If you went for smaller WD RE drives (2TB instead of 3TB) you could get 20TB usable for just $1,380.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      For everyone's reference:

                      WD Red is consumer, 5400 RPM
                      WD Red Pro is consumer, 7200 RPM
                      WD RE is enterprise, 7200 RPM

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        The trouble is at 24TB for backup there isn't much room for growth with this backup solution

                        So larger drives would be needed.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          @DustinB3403 said:

                          The trouble is at 24TB for backup there isn't much room for growth with this backup solution

                          So larger drives would be needed.

                          Then going to 30TB would be good.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            If you splurge to $2,352 you can leap to the 4TB RE drives and suddenly you have 40TB to work with!

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              Now that remains SATA. If you are worried about performance the 4TB WD RE SAS drives will give you a huge boost in random access and only cost $2,436. Now that much more.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                And, of course, to overwhelm you with options, you could get WD RE 6TB drives and get 8 of them. This would be much slower and give you 36TB today in RAID 6. But over time you could grow up to 60TB in that setup. Up front 36TB cost would be $3,280.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  So 3TB Drives RAID 6.

                                  No write performance though from the RAID.

                                  Off Hypervisor, over the internet at 5841GB (30MBps pipe Asymetric) ...
                                  Weekly.... would take 21 Days to perform a single backup operation... (roughly)

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    I'm thinking our internet performance would have to take a huge leap as well for off site.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      At those speeds you don't care about the write penalties of the RAID 6, you just need enough performance to take the WAN pipe speeds, which is almost nothing.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403
                                        last edited by

                                        At least for weekly full backups. But if we only backup the primary drive (once a month)

                                        We would reduce our storage needs, as well as bandwidth needs.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @DustinB3403 said:
                                          (30MBps pipe Asymetric) ...

                                          I assume you mean 30Mb/s. 30MB/s is 240Mb/s!! That would be pretty awesome.

                                          If asymmetric, what is the full speed up and down?

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            30 Up and down.

                                            Each way, is that not asymmetric?

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