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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said:

      What makes it non via? I'm assuming you can add a RAID controller?

      Everything about a C series is designed to be disposable. Everything. Non-redundant parts, cheaper parts. This is literally a disposable node design, like a BackBlaze POD. This is designed exclusively for situations where you have many redundant nodes and you don't care if one or two just die on you.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        Cheap for a reason. The C stands for Cluster.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          Cheap for a reason. The C stands for Cluster.

          As in Cluster F*** I'm guessing then.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            Ha ha, no not really, but that is a great way to think about it.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
              last edited by

              So really my only choice would be something like a R720XD.

              Loaded with 12 6TB SATA drives in RAID 10.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @DustinB3403 said:

                So really my only choice would be something like a R720XD.

                Loaded with 12 6TB SATA drives in RAID 10.

                Would you need RAID 10 for this? Maybe RAID 6 would work for this use case?

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  It's a matter of reliability.

                  Using consumer grade SATA drives RAID10 seems to make more sense, doesn't it?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @DustinB3403 said:

                    So really my only choice would be something like a R720XD.

                    Loaded with 12 6TB SATA drives in RAID 10.

                    Why not an R510, much cheaper.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      Plus moving as much data as we have off weekly the write speed gain would be worth it.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @DustinB3403 said:

                        It's a matter of reliability.

                        Using consumer grade SATA drives RAID10 seems to make more sense, doesn't it?

                        Check the price of RE drives in RAID 6. Might be cheaper with 12 drives.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
                          last edited by DustinB3403

                          Western Digital Red's at 4TB (12 in total) would cost ~$1800.

                          At RAID 6

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said:

                            Western Digital Red's at 4TB (12 in total) would cost ~$1800.

                            At RAID 6

                            So WD Red (Consumer 5400 RPM) for 24TB is $1800.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              WD RE (Enterprise) in RAID 6 would be 30TB for $1884.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                So Red would be just barely cheaper, RE would be just barely larger. Red would be faster for random writes. RE way faster for reads.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  If you went for smaller WD RE drives (2TB instead of 3TB) you could get 20TB usable for just $1,380.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    For everyone's reference:

                                    WD Red is consumer, 5400 RPM
                                    WD Red Pro is consumer, 7200 RPM
                                    WD RE is enterprise, 7200 RPM

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      The trouble is at 24TB for backup there isn't much room for growth with this backup solution

                                      So larger drives would be needed.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                        last edited by

                                        @DustinB3403 said:

                                        The trouble is at 24TB for backup there isn't much room for growth with this backup solution

                                        So larger drives would be needed.

                                        Then going to 30TB would be good.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          If you splurge to $2,352 you can leap to the 4TB RE drives and suddenly you have 40TB to work with!

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            Now that remains SATA. If you are worried about performance the 4TB WD RE SAS drives will give you a huge boost in random access and only cost $2,436. Now that much more.

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