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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      @DustinB3403 said:

      Just spitballing the idea's and it was the first device I came across. 3.5 SATA would work as well.

      But it is not a viable device, so any information about it is misleading. Only use viable devices, even when spitballing.

      What makes it non via? I'm assuming you can add a RAID controller?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @Dashrender said:

        What makes it non via? I'm assuming you can add a RAID controller?

        Everything about a C series is designed to be disposable. Everything. Non-redundant parts, cheaper parts. This is literally a disposable node design, like a BackBlaze POD. This is designed exclusively for situations where you have many redundant nodes and you don't care if one or two just die on you.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          Cheap for a reason. The C stands for Cluster.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said:

            Cheap for a reason. The C stands for Cluster.

            As in Cluster F*** I'm guessing then.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              Ha ha, no not really, but that is a great way to think about it.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by

                So really my only choice would be something like a R720XD.

                Loaded with 12 6TB SATA drives in RAID 10.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @DustinB3403 said:

                  So really my only choice would be something like a R720XD.

                  Loaded with 12 6TB SATA drives in RAID 10.

                  Would you need RAID 10 for this? Maybe RAID 6 would work for this use case?

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    It's a matter of reliability.

                    Using consumer grade SATA drives RAID10 seems to make more sense, doesn't it?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @DustinB3403 said:

                      So really my only choice would be something like a R720XD.

                      Loaded with 12 6TB SATA drives in RAID 10.

                      Why not an R510, much cheaper.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        Plus moving as much data as we have off weekly the write speed gain would be worth it.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          @DustinB3403 said:

                          It's a matter of reliability.

                          Using consumer grade SATA drives RAID10 seems to make more sense, doesn't it?

                          Check the price of RE drives in RAID 6. Might be cheaper with 12 drives.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403
                            last edited by DustinB3403

                            Western Digital Red's at 4TB (12 in total) would cost ~$1800.

                            At RAID 6

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 said:

                              Western Digital Red's at 4TB (12 in total) would cost ~$1800.

                              At RAID 6

                              So WD Red (Consumer 5400 RPM) for 24TB is $1800.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                WD RE (Enterprise) in RAID 6 would be 30TB for $1884.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  So Red would be just barely cheaper, RE would be just barely larger. Red would be faster for random writes. RE way faster for reads.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    If you went for smaller WD RE drives (2TB instead of 3TB) you could get 20TB usable for just $1,380.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      For everyone's reference:

                                      WD Red is consumer, 5400 RPM
                                      WD Red Pro is consumer, 7200 RPM
                                      WD RE is enterprise, 7200 RPM

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403
                                        last edited by

                                        The trouble is at 24TB for backup there isn't much room for growth with this backup solution

                                        So larger drives would be needed.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @DustinB3403 said:

                                          The trouble is at 24TB for backup there isn't much room for growth with this backup solution

                                          So larger drives would be needed.

                                          Then going to 30TB would be good.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            If you splurge to $2,352 you can leap to the 4TB RE drives and suddenly you have 40TB to work with!

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