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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said:

      Should I be more concerned about URE's (etc) on consumer SATA's at this sort of setup?

      Depends on the RAID level that you decide to use.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
        last edited by

        Spinning rust, RAID 10 of course.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @DustinB3403 said:

          Just spitballing the idea's and it was the first device I came across. 3.5 SATA would work as well.

          But it is not a viable device, so any information about it is misleading. Only use viable devices, even when spitballing.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said:

            Spinning rust, RAID 10 of course.

            Then no, UREs are not a factor.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @DustinB3403 said:

              Just spitballing the idea's and it was the first device I came across. 3.5 SATA would work as well.

              But it is not a viable device, so any information about it is misleading. Only use viable devices, even when spitballing.

              What makes it non via? I'm assuming you can add a RAID controller?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said:

                What makes it non via? I'm assuming you can add a RAID controller?

                Everything about a C series is designed to be disposable. Everything. Non-redundant parts, cheaper parts. This is literally a disposable node design, like a BackBlaze POD. This is designed exclusively for situations where you have many redundant nodes and you don't care if one or two just die on you.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  Cheap for a reason. The C stands for Cluster.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    Cheap for a reason. The C stands for Cluster.

                    As in Cluster F*** I'm guessing then.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      Ha ha, no not really, but that is a great way to think about it.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
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                        So really my only choice would be something like a R720XD.

                        Loaded with 12 6TB SATA drives in RAID 10.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said:

                          So really my only choice would be something like a R720XD.

                          Loaded with 12 6TB SATA drives in RAID 10.

                          Would you need RAID 10 for this? Maybe RAID 6 would work for this use case?

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403
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                            It's a matter of reliability.

                            Using consumer grade SATA drives RAID10 seems to make more sense, doesn't it?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              @DustinB3403 said:

                              So really my only choice would be something like a R720XD.

                              Loaded with 12 6TB SATA drives in RAID 10.

                              Why not an R510, much cheaper.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                Plus moving as much data as we have off weekly the write speed gain would be worth it.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403 said:

                                  It's a matter of reliability.

                                  Using consumer grade SATA drives RAID10 seems to make more sense, doesn't it?

                                  Check the price of RE drives in RAID 6. Might be cheaper with 12 drives.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
                                    last edited by DustinB3403

                                    Western Digital Red's at 4TB (12 in total) would cost ~$1800.

                                    At RAID 6

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      @DustinB3403 said:

                                      Western Digital Red's at 4TB (12 in total) would cost ~$1800.

                                      At RAID 6

                                      So WD Red (Consumer 5400 RPM) for 24TB is $1800.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        WD RE (Enterprise) in RAID 6 would be 30TB for $1884.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          So Red would be just barely cheaper, RE would be just barely larger. Red would be faster for random writes. RE way faster for reads.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            If you went for smaller WD RE drives (2TB instead of 3TB) you could get 20TB usable for just $1,380.

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