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      Dashrender @coliver
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      @coliver said:

      @Dashrender said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @Jason said:

      Many look into Dell Appassure for backups. I don't think you pay for windows though so not sure you would for this.

      That's going to be an issue. Everything that does decoupled backups is going to be non-free or require virtualization at least.

      What about Veeam End Point Protection?

      I'm having a bit of Dejavu here.

      Well I'm not going to say it can't be scheduled.. so there 😛

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        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @Jason said:

        Many look into Dell Appassure for backups. I don't think you pay for windows though so not sure you would for this.

        That's going to be an issue. Everything that does decoupled backups is going to be non-free or require virtualization at least.

        What about Veeam End Point Protection?

        Not decoupled AFAIK, in any way.

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          coliver @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          @Dashrender said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @Jason said:

          Many look into Dell Appassure for backups. I don't think you pay for windows though so not sure you would for this.

          That's going to be an issue. Everything that does decoupled backups is going to be non-free or require virtualization at least.

          What about Veeam End Point Protection?

          Not decoupled AFAIK, in any way.

          The risk though can be reduced by using a different user account and only using it for this one application.

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            scottalanmiller @coliver
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            @coliver said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Dashrender said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Jason said:

            Many look into Dell Appassure for backups. I don't think you pay for windows though so not sure you would for this.

            That's going to be an issue. Everything that does decoupled backups is going to be non-free or require virtualization at least.

            What about Veeam End Point Protection?

            Not decoupled AFAIK, in any way.

            The risk though can be reduced by using a different user account and only using it for this one application.

            Yes, but that is the only gap that there is. It is fully coupled to the network.

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              coliver @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              @coliver said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Dashrender said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Jason said:

              Many look into Dell Appassure for backups. I don't think you pay for windows though so not sure you would for this.

              That's going to be an issue. Everything that does decoupled backups is going to be non-free or require virtualization at least.

              What about Veeam End Point Protection?

              Not decoupled AFAIK, in any way.

              The risk though can be reduced by using a different user account and only using it for this one application.

              Yes, but that is the only gap that there is. It is fully coupled to the network.

              Yes, that adds a huge amount of risk.

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                IT-ADMIN
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                can i have 2 scheduled backup with veeam or it is limited to one schedule backup ??
                i ask this question because i want to setup 2 schedule backup : one for data and one for system image ,
                any thoughts ??

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                  dafyre
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                  If you are using the Veeam Endpoint Recovery Free, it looks like only a single schedule.

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                    IT-ADMIN
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                    thank you Dear @dafyre for the info

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                      IT-ADMIN
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                      i need to know what backup mode allows me to backup the system image : is it entire computer or volumes level backup (then choose the C volume) ??

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                        coliver @IT-ADMIN
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                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        i need to know what backup mode allows me to backup the system image : is it entire computer or volumes level backup (then choose the C volume) ??

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                        Entire Computer

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                          scottalanmiller
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                          Yup, it's right in the description on the screenshot posted above. Entire computer is the only one that gets.... the entire computer.

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                            IT-ADMIN @coliver
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                            @coliver said:

                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            i need to know what backup mode allows me to backup the system image : is it entire computer or volumes level backup (then choose the C volume) ??

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                            Entire Computer

                            Ok, is this mode backup everything including the data in all partitions ??? then the size must be very heavy

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                              coliver @IT-ADMIN
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                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              @coliver said:

                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              i need to know what backup mode allows me to backup the system image : is it entire computer or volumes level backup (then choose the C volume) ??

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                              Entire Computer

                              Ok, is this mode backup everything including the data in all partitions ??? then the size must be very heavy

                              As big as all the files on your computer with overhead.

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                                scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                @coliver said:

                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                i need to know what backup mode allows me to backup the system image : is it entire computer or volumes level backup (then choose the C volume) ??

                                Untitled.png

                                Entire Computer

                                Ok, is this mode backup everything including the data in all partitions ??? then the size must be very heavy

                                If you want a full backup, of course.

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                                  IT-ADMIN
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                                  but i think it is not optimal, because if i want to restore a 10 MB excel sheet then i have to restore the whole system ??? it make no sense for me
                                  it should be the possibility to have 2 schedule : one for system image and one for data, this is the best way to have a good backup plan, am i right ??

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                                    dafyre @IT-ADMIN
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                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    Ok, is this mode backup everything including the data in all partitions ??? then the size must be very heavy

                                    Yepp. You can expect the first full backup to be about the same size as all of the data on your computer now. So if you have 2TB worth of data on your whole computer, then the backup size will be about that.

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                                      dafyre @IT-ADMIN
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                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      but i think it is not optimal, because if i want to restore a 10 MB excel sheet then i have to restore the whole system ??? it make no sense for me
                                      it should be the possibility to have 2 schedule : one for system image and one for data, this is the best way to have a good backup plan, am i right ??

                                      No, if you need to restore the Excel file, you can restore just that file.

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                                        IT-ADMIN
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                                        i think that backing up the C drive is sufficient to backup the system image without backing up every thing

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                                          IT-ADMIN @dafyre
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                                          @dafyre said:

                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          but i think it is not optimal, because if i want to restore a 10 MB excel sheet then i have to restore the whole system ??? it make no sense for me
                                          it should be the possibility to have 2 schedule : one for system image and one for data, this is the best way to have a good backup plan, am i right ??

                                          No, if you need to restore the Excel file, you can restore just that file.

                                          you mean that during the restore process (in the mode entire computer), i will have the possibility to select which item to restore ??

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                                            dafyre @IT-ADMIN
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                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            i think that backing up the C drive is sufficient to backup the system image without backing up every thing

                                            Why would you not want to back up everything?

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