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    • coliverC
      coliver @IT-ADMIN
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      @IT-ADMIN said:

      dear @DustinB3403, what makes me not moving to virtualization is a long story, lol
      license issue and the P2V process (cuz the system itself is not very good)

      No licensing for a hypervisor (or at least none you have to worry about). Look at Hyper-V or XenServer. Both are free to use for everyone. The only licensing you will need to worry about are your Windows licensing (if you have them).

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      • IT-ADMINI
        IT-ADMIN @coliver
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        @coliver said:

        @IT-ADMIN said:

        dear @DustinB3403, what makes me not moving to virtualization is a long story, lol
        license issue and the P2V process (cuz the system itself is not very good)

        No licensing for a hypervisor (or at least none you have to worry about). Look at Hyper-V or XenServer. Both are free to use for everyone. The only licensing you will need to worry about are your Windows licensing (if you have them).

        yes this is what i'm talking about: my windows server license 😞

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        • IT-ADMINI
          IT-ADMIN
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          i think that i'm in a good position now with this veeam, it really save my ass, lol

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @IT-ADMIN
            last edited by DustinB3403

            @IT-ADMIN said:

            dear @DustinB3403, what makes me not moving to virtualization is a long story, lol
            license issue and the P2V process (cuz the system itself is not very good)

            Licensing I understand, meaning you have cracked licenses. The P2V process is really quite simple on any hypervisor you use.

            Only in rare circumstances should you consider not virtualizing. One being extremely rare/custom hardware that doesn't work on any hypervisor.

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            • IT-ADMINI
              IT-ADMIN
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              ok let's suppose that i P2V, if the P and V is online what will happen ??
              i think both version will be blacklisted, isn't it ???

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              • IT-ADMINI
                IT-ADMIN
                last edited by

                by the way i didn't crack anything, i found this preexisted 😞

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                • dafyreD
                  dafyre
                  last edited by

                  What you do is you do the P2V... and then shut down the Physical machine and boot up the Virtual Machine... Ideally, your end users would only see a short blip as things have been rebooted. If you do this in the Off-hours, your users shouldn't notice a thing.

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @IT-ADMIN
                    last edited by

                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                    by the way i didn't crack anything, i found this preexisted 😞

                    Being properly licensed is just a cost of doing business. You should really try and resolve that... Either way though aren't you already breaking your licensing? Why does moving it to a different server matter?

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                    • dafyreD
                      dafyre
                      last edited by

                      As part of your move to virtualization, I'd recommend getting your OS Licensing up to snuff as well. Don't want any legal troubles from Microsoft or other companies.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
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                        His licensing concerns were covered in another thread. In his part of the world, they simply don't care about licensing and won't pay for it.

                        That whole concept went on for about 2-3 hours.

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                        • dafyreD
                          dafyre @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender I musta missed it.

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said:

                            His licensing concerns were covered in another thread. In his part of the world, they simply don't care about licensing and won't pay for it.

                            That whole concept went on for about 2-3 hours.

                            Ah... I must have missed that one?

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                            • IT-ADMINI
                              IT-ADMIN
                              last edited by

                              lol, @Dashrender is up to date, thank you for clarifying that, i'm not ready to spend 3 hours again to say that here they don't care about licensing, in brief this is another story

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                              • dafyreD
                                dafyre @IT-ADMIN
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                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                lol, @Dashrender is up to date, thank you for clarifying that, i'm not ready to spend 3 hours again to say that here they don't care about licensing, in brief this is another story

                                It's all good. We got the short, short version. 🙂

                                That may actually be a valid concern though, as I have seen a few P2V tools actually make Windows request another activation.

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                                  so you told me that if i P2V i must disconnect the P from internet, isn't it ?? otherwise the system will be blacklisted ??

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre @IT-ADMIN
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                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    so you told me that if i P2V i must disconnect the P from internet, isn't it ?? otherwise the system will be blacklisted ??

                                    Completely shut the P off. If the P and V are on at the same time with the same IP address, it will cause network problems.

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                                      IT-ADMIN @dafyre
                                      last edited by

                                      @dafyre said:

                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      so you told me that if i P2V i must disconnect the P from internet, isn't it ?? otherwise the system will be blacklisted ??

                                      Completely shut the P off. If the P and V are on at the same time with the same IP address, it will cause network problems.

                                      yes i know about the IP conflict, i'm talking about the licensing, if both are online windows will detect that there are 2 computers using the same license, isn't it ??

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @IT-ADMIN
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                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        @dafyre said:

                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        so you told me that if i P2V i must disconnect the P from internet, isn't it ?? otherwise the system will be blacklisted ??

                                        Completely shut the P off. If the P and V are on at the same time with the same IP address, it will cause network problems.

                                        yes i know about the IP conflict, i'm talking about the licensing, if both are online windows will detect that there are 2 computers using the same license, isn't it ??

                                        The big issue you are going to have is that your underlying hardware is going to change, dramatically. Generally when Windows sees the hardware change like this it will try and re-authorize with the Microsoft licensing servers.

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                                          IT-ADMIN
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                                          great this is what i want to know, i will have a licensing issue in the P2V process, i was sure i have this limitation since i don't have the windows key
                                          in this case i will keep my physical servers, i don't want to have issues with the management
                                          veeam + physical server = solve all problems

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                                            wow i feel confortable now, can you imagine that for 2 years now i didn't have any backup plan except for one (daily incremental data backup in the same HD : D---> E)
                                            now i can store my data in a NAS far away from my file server and furthermore i can even store daily incremental system images of my server, wow very good improvement

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