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      IT-ADMIN
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      but how such a friendly powerful tool like veeam can be free ?? incredible

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        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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        @IT-ADMIN said:

        but how such a friendly powerful tool like veeam can be free ?? incredible

        Many of the big features and the ability to scale are not free. Veeam makes a LOT of money 😉

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          IT-ADMIN
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          i never imagine i can find such tool for free, therefor i was sticking to WBS in my first posts

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            IT-ADMIN @dafyre
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            @dafyre said:

            Veeam Endpoint Recovery free works on physical devices. 8-) I have it running on my office machine here as well as at home.

            i really thank you very much for your suggestion Dear @dafyre, i appreciate it 🙂

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              scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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              @IT-ADMIN said:

              i never imagine i can find such tool for free, therefor i was sticking to WBS in my first posts

              At small size, many of the best tools are free. They want small companies to try them and get to know them before growing into big companies that can pay for them.

              Unitrends is free at this size too, if you were virtualized.

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                IT-ADMIN
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                yeah you are right Dear Scott, that is their philosophy
                but unitrend doesn't support XenServer for free, isn't it ?
                because i have one XenSever Host (2 VM guest in it) and till now i didn't put a backup solution for it !

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                  scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  but unitrend doesn't support XenServer for free, isn't it ?

                  No, because their free product and their XenServer product are completely different products. They don't have a free XenServer product yet after having bought the company that makes that software.

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                    Danp
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                    Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

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                      scottalanmiller @Danp
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                      @Danp said:

                      Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

                      Even KVM?

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                        coliver @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @Danp said:

                        Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

                        Even KVM?

                        Nope

                        Unitrends 9.0 includes protection for all three major Hypervisors, vSphere from VMWare, Hyper-V for Microsoft and XenServer from Citrix.

                        Is XenServer still from Citrix I thought the Xen Foundation took it over?

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                          scottalanmiller @coliver
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                          @coliver said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Danp said:

                          Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

                          Even KVM?

                          Nope

                          Unitrends 9.0 includes protection for all three major Hypervisors, vSphere from VMWare, Hyper-V for Microsoft and XenServer from Citrix.

                          Is XenServer still from Citrix I thought the Xen Foundation took it over?

                          So not all major. LOL

                          Xen IS Linux Foundation. XenServer is Citrix "when using that name" but it is just a rebranding of the XCP from Linux Foundation. Citrix makes extra tools but not Xen or XenServer.

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                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @coliver said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Danp said:

                            Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

                            Even KVM?

                            Nope

                            Unitrends 9.0 includes protection for all three major Hypervisors, vSphere from VMWare, Hyper-V for Microsoft and XenServer from Citrix.

                            Is XenServer still from Citrix I thought the Xen Foundation took it over?

                            So not all major. LOL

                            Xen IS Linux Foundation. XenServer is Citrix "when using that name" but it is just a rebranding of the XCP from Linux Foundation. Citrix makes extra tools but not Xen or XenServer.

                            Now I'm lost again - so XenServer is Citrix, but do people still install XenServer? or just Xen? Like @coliver I thought Citrix gave their code/project back to the Linux Foundation... is that not the case?

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                              coliver @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @coliver said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Danp said:

                              Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

                              Even KVM?

                              Nope

                              Unitrends 9.0 includes protection for all three major Hypervisors, vSphere from VMWare, Hyper-V for Microsoft and XenServer from Citrix.

                              Is XenServer still from Citrix I thought the Xen Foundation took it over?

                              So not all major. LOL

                              Xen IS Linux Foundation. XenServer is Citrix "when using that name" but it is just a rebranding of the XCP from Linux Foundation. Citrix makes extra tools but not Xen or XenServer.

                              Now I'm lost again - so XenServer is Citrix, but do people still install XenServer? or just Xen? Like @coliver I thought Citrix gave their code/project back to the Linux Foundation... is that not the case?

                              http://xenserver.org/about-xenserver-open-source.html

                              It looks like it is still managed by Citrix?

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                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @coliver said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Danp said:

                                Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

                                Even KVM?

                                Nope

                                Unitrends 9.0 includes protection for all three major Hypervisors, vSphere from VMWare, Hyper-V for Microsoft and XenServer from Citrix.

                                Is XenServer still from Citrix I thought the Xen Foundation took it over?

                                So not all major. LOL

                                Xen IS Linux Foundation. XenServer is Citrix "when using that name" but it is just a rebranding of the XCP from Linux Foundation. Citrix makes extra tools but not Xen or XenServer.

                                Now I'm lost again - so XenServer is Citrix, but do people still install XenServer? or just Xen? Like @coliver I thought Citrix gave their code/project back to the Linux Foundation... is that not the case?

                                XenServer is a brand name that Citrix slaps on XCP. XCP is made by Linux, XenServer is provided by Citrix. Citrix makes nothing that anyone uses.

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                                  coliver
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                                  Here is the site for the Linux Foundation managed version. http://xenproject.org/

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                                    Dashrender
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                                    OK, I think - so did @DustinB3403 install Xen or XenServer?

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                                      DustinB3403
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                                      XenServer 6.5 from the linux foundation.

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                                        Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                                        @DustinB3403 said:

                                        XenServer 6.5 from the linux foundation.

                                        and I'm back to being confused.

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        XenServer is a brand name that Citrix slaps on XCP. XCP is made by Linux, XenServer is provided by Citrix. Citrix makes nothing that anyone uses.

                                        Does this not mean that XenServer is Citrix, but then Scott says no one uses anything Citrix makes.

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                                          DustinB3403
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                                          So you can download a packaged solution for free of charge from Citrix, this includes XenServer 6.5 and XenCenter. The closed source management interface for XenCenter.

                                          You can download an unpacked version from the Linux Foundation which doesn't include XenCenter.

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                                            Dashrender
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                                            Help me understand why you would download a Citrix own thing from the Linux Foundation instead of Citrix? XenServer, according to Scott belongs to Citrix.

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