Backup File Server to DAS

IT-ADMIN

Veeam Endpoint Recovery free works on physical devices. 8-) I have it running on my office machine here as well as at home.

i really thank you very much for your suggestion Dear @dafyre, i appreciate it

scottalanmiller

@IT-ADMIN said:

i never imagine i can find such tool for free, therefor i was sticking to WBS in my first posts

At small size, many of the best tools are free. They want small companies to try them and get to know them before growing into big companies that can pay for them.

Unitrends is free at this size too, if you were virtualized.

IT-ADMIN

yeah you are right Dear Scott, that is their philosophy
but unitrend doesn't support XenServer for free, isn't it ?
because i have one XenSever Host (2 VM guest in it) and till now i didn't put a backup solution for it !

scottalanmiller

@IT-ADMIN said:

but unitrend doesn't support XenServer for free, isn't it ?

No, because their free product and their XenServer product are completely different products. They don't have a free XenServer product yet after having bought the company that makes that software.

Danp

Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

scottalanmiller

@Danp said:

Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

Even KVM?

coliver

@scottalanmiller said:

@Danp said:

Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

Even KVM?

Nope

Unitrends 9.0 includes protection for all three major Hypervisors, vSphere from VMWare, Hyper-V for Microsoft and XenServer from Citrix.

Is XenServer still from Citrix I thought the Xen Foundation took it over?

scottalanmiller

@coliver said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@Danp said:

Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

Even KVM?

Nope

Unitrends 9.0 includes protection for all three major Hypervisors, vSphere from VMWare, Hyper-V for Microsoft and XenServer from Citrix.

Is XenServer still from Citrix I thought the Xen Foundation took it over?

So not all major. LOL

Xen IS Linux Foundation. XenServer is Citrix "when using that name" but it is just a rebranding of the XCP from Linux Foundation. Citrix makes extra tools but not Xen or XenServer.

Dashrender

@scottalanmiller said:

@coliver said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@Danp said:

Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

Even KVM?

Nope

Unitrends 9.0 includes protection for all three major Hypervisors, vSphere from VMWare, Hyper-V for Microsoft and XenServer from Citrix.

Is XenServer still from Citrix I thought the Xen Foundation took it over?

So not all major. LOL

Xen IS Linux Foundation. XenServer is Citrix "when using that name" but it is just a rebranding of the XCP from Linux Foundation. Citrix makes extra tools but not Xen or XenServer.

Now I'm lost again - so XenServer is Citrix, but do people still install XenServer? or just Xen? Like @coliver I thought Citrix gave their code/project back to the Linux Foundation... is that not the case?

coliver

@Dashrender said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@coliver said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@Danp said:

Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

Even KVM?

Nope

Unitrends 9.0 includes protection for all three major Hypervisors, vSphere from VMWare, Hyper-V for Microsoft and XenServer from Citrix.

Is XenServer still from Citrix I thought the Xen Foundation took it over?

So not all major. LOL

Xen IS Linux Foundation. XenServer is Citrix "when using that name" but it is just a rebranding of the XCP from Linux Foundation. Citrix makes extra tools but not Xen or XenServer.

Now I'm lost again - so XenServer is Citrix, but do people still install XenServer? or just Xen? Like @coliver I thought Citrix gave their code/project back to the Linux Foundation... is that not the case?

http://xenserver.org/about-xenserver-open-source.html

It looks like it is still managed by Citrix?

scottalanmiller

@Dashrender said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@coliver said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@Danp said:

Unitrends 9.0 is supposed to support all major hypervisors, including XenServer. It's currently undergoing beta testing...

Even KVM?

Nope

Unitrends 9.0 includes protection for all three major Hypervisors, vSphere from VMWare, Hyper-V for Microsoft and XenServer from Citrix.

Is XenServer still from Citrix I thought the Xen Foundation took it over?

So not all major. LOL

Xen IS Linux Foundation. XenServer is Citrix "when using that name" but it is just a rebranding of the XCP from Linux Foundation. Citrix makes extra tools but not Xen or XenServer.

Now I'm lost again - so XenServer is Citrix, but do people still install XenServer? or just Xen? Like @coliver I thought Citrix gave their code/project back to the Linux Foundation... is that not the case?

XenServer is a brand name that Citrix slaps on XCP. XCP is made by Linux, XenServer is provided by Citrix. Citrix makes nothing that anyone uses.

coliver

Here is the site for the Linux Foundation managed version. http://xenproject.org/

Dashrender

OK, I think - so did @DustinB3403 install Xen or XenServer?

DustinB3403

XenServer 6.5 from the linux foundation.

Dashrender

@DustinB3403 said:

XenServer 6.5 from the linux foundation.

and I'm back to being confused.

@scottalanmiller said:

XenServer is a brand name that Citrix slaps on XCP. XCP is made by Linux, XenServer is provided by Citrix. Citrix makes nothing that anyone uses.

Does this not mean that XenServer is Citrix, but then Scott says no one uses anything Citrix makes.

DustinB3403

So you can download a packaged solution for free of charge from Citrix, this includes XenServer 6.5 and XenCenter. The closed source management interface for XenCenter.

You can download an unpacked version from the Linux Foundation which doesn't include XenCenter.

Dashrender

Help me understand why you would download a Citrix own thing from the Linux Foundation instead of Citrix? XenServer, according to Scott belongs to Citrix.

Dashrender

I feel like I'm missing some super simple here, but just can't grasp it.

DustinB3403

Which if you're downloading from xenproject.org you're downloading Xen. Not XenServer.

Its a branded solution for the Xen project.

Dashrender

OK the first line of the link @coliver posted above reads

XenServer is an open source project and community managed by Citrix

What does managed by Citrix mean? Does that mean they own it, but have GPL'ed it or Open Sourced it (different license than GPL) so anyone can use it anyway they want, but Citrix still owns it?

Damn that's a mind bender.