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    • brianlittlejohnB
      brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      @brianlittlejohn said:

      This guy has 5 servers running only 20 vms stored on a Netgear SAN.

      http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1264839-enterprise-nas-san-and-backup-solution-question

      And wasn't he considering moving to a QNAP as some sort of "solution?" He stated enterprise in the title and then went for every possible way to be as far from enterprise as you could imagine.

      Yea, it had all kinds of bad written all over it.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        And only six drives. His IPOD is only one of many problems - which is generally the case. People doing really bad things that break best practices and undermine their goals in obvious and fundamental ways often have smaller bad decisions all over the place because the processes that caused the one are often still around.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          And only six drives. His IPOD is only one of many problems - which is generally the case. People doing really bad things that break best practices and undermine their goals in obvious and fundamental ways often have smaller bad decisions all over the place because the processes that caused the one are often still around.

          he's definitely not looking at the whole package.

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          • StrongBadS
            StrongBad
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            I hope that he is not looking at my whole package!

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @StrongBad
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              @StrongBad said:

              I hope that he is not looking at my whole package!

              Just the tip?

              OOOHH!

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                Here is another....

                • IPOD Design
                • Putting his backups onto the same SAN as product (e.g. no backups at all)

                http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1272509-how-should-lunds-be-configured-on-your-san

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  Here is yet another one...

                  Single Storage node and two compute nodes.

                  @scottalanmiller is already on the topic.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    There was another one this morning that I need to track down the link for. It was three computer nodes on a single NetApp FAS2020, which is a decent small NAS and far better than what most people use for these things in an SMB, but still not what you would hope to see. But the OP, in that case, came at it from the fear of what he had, not that he thought that it was a good idea.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      Found it: http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1277735-newbie-ha-with-single-shared-storage

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        @Garyw provided one today, very good one from a software coupling perspective:

                        http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1307155-another-example-of-the-san-os-being-a-single-point-of-failure

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Don't have the details but yet another lost MSA / DotHill SAN where the controllers did nothing to protect them:

                          http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1309837-desperate-lost-config-on-msa-2012i

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                          • brianlittlejohnB
                            brianlittlejohn
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                            http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324307-smb-upgrading-storage-for-vmware-hosting-on-a-budget-looking-for-suggestions

                            Currently looking for a "Shared Storage" on the cheap to replace his Synology that has 3 hosts and 40VMs attached to it.

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                            • stacksofplatesS
                              stacksofplates @brianlittlejohn
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                              @brianlittlejohn said:

                              http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324307-smb-upgrading-storage-for-vmware-hosting-on-a-budget-looking-for-suggestions

                              Currently looking for a "Shared Storage" on the cheap to replace his Synology that has 3 hosts and 40VMs attached to it.

                              Why is it always these setups that use VMware?

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                              • dafyreD
                                dafyre @stacksofplates
                                last edited by dafyre

                                @johnhooks Because that is the name that they know... at least for Virtualization.

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                                • brianlittlejohnB
                                  brianlittlejohn @stacksofplates
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                                  @johnhooks said:

                                  @brianlittlejohn said:

                                  http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324307-smb-upgrading-storage-for-vmware-hosting-on-a-budget-looking-for-suggestions

                                  Currently looking for a "Shared Storage" on the cheap to replace his Synology that has 3 hosts and 40VMs attached to it.

                                  Why is it always these setups that use VMware?

                                  That is how "HA" is sold by storage vendors, VMWare with a SAN.

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                                  • stacksofplatesS
                                    stacksofplates @brianlittlejohn
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                                    @brianlittlejohn said:

                                    @johnhooks said:

                                    @brianlittlejohn said:

                                    http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324307-smb-upgrading-storage-for-vmware-hosting-on-a-budget-looking-for-suggestions

                                    Currently looking for a "Shared Storage" on the cheap to replace his Synology that has 3 hosts and 40VMs attached to it.

                                    Why is it always these setups that use VMware?

                                    That is how "HA" is sold by storage vendors, VMWare with a SAN.

                                    Where do places draw the line between and IT professional and someone who sets something up that a vendor told them about?

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @stacksofplates
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                                      @johnhooks said:

                                      @brianlittlejohn said:

                                      @johnhooks said:

                                      @brianlittlejohn said:

                                      http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324307-smb-upgrading-storage-for-vmware-hosting-on-a-budget-looking-for-suggestions

                                      Currently looking for a "Shared Storage" on the cheap to replace his Synology that has 3 hosts and 40VMs attached to it.

                                      Why is it always these setups that use VMware?

                                      That is how "HA" is sold by storage vendors, VMWare with a SAN.

                                      Where do places draw the line between and IT professional and someone who sets something up that a vendor told them about?

                                      They don't... most places think they are one in the same.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                        @johnhooks said:

                                        @brianlittlejohn said:

                                        http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324307-smb-upgrading-storage-for-vmware-hosting-on-a-budget-looking-for-suggestions

                                        Currently looking for a "Shared Storage" on the cheap to replace his Synology that has 3 hosts and 40VMs attached to it.

                                        Why is it always these setups that use VMware?

                                        When someone is being guided by salesmen, the factors will remain the same. VMware is what makes someone money, as is selling HA features and SANs. The thing that makes someone try to sell one piece makes them try to sell all of them. All part of the same "being taken advantage of by sales people".

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                                          last edited by

                                          @johnhooks said:

                                          @brianlittlejohn said:

                                          @johnhooks said:

                                          @brianlittlejohn said:

                                          http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1324307-smb-upgrading-storage-for-vmware-hosting-on-a-budget-looking-for-suggestions

                                          Currently looking for a "Shared Storage" on the cheap to replace his Synology that has 3 hosts and 40VMs attached to it.

                                          Why is it always these setups that use VMware?

                                          That is how "HA" is sold by storage vendors, VMWare with a SAN.

                                          Where do places draw the line between and IT professional and someone who sets something up that a vendor told them about?

                                          I've been wondering about this as well. There are a LOT of people claiming to be IT people that are really just "IT buyers" who can't even tell when they are buying something reasonable or not.

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates
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                                            So they're using a DS1815+ for 3 servers to host 40 VMs. Then they say something like this..

                                            "It also has some serious iscsi network performance issues and it seems Synology just isn't taking the business sector serious enough with their roadmap."

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