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      IT-ADMIN
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      is there any differance btw virtualized and PV ??

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        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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        @IT-ADMIN said:

        oh i see, so the next frech install i should do it from the begining PV right

        Yes, a fresh install is quite important here for multiple reasons that you have encountered.

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          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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          @IT-ADMIN said:

          is there any differance btw virtualized and PV ??

          Yes, very different. That's why there are two names and why you are having problems here 🙂

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            scottalanmiller
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            http://mangolassi.it/topic/5916/a-quick-understanding-of-full-virtualization-and-paravirtualization

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              IT-ADMIN
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              do you mean by PV driver ::: the xenserver tool ??

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                scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                @IT-ADMIN said:

                do you mean by PV driver ::: the xenserver tool ??

                that is the XenServer name for their PV drivers, yes.

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                  IT-ADMIN
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                  what about the PV driver of the guest, what we call them ???

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                    IT-ADMIN
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                    maybe front-end drivers

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                      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                      what about the PV driver of the guest, what we call them ???

                      They are called PV Drivers, that is the only industry name for them and the only thing that would make sense.

                      Drivers only exists for the guest, there is no such concept as PV drivers for the host.

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                        IT-ADMIN
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                        it looks like XenServer was a bad choice for me, especially for my specific need which is hosting freePBX and pfSense, none of them existed in Xenserver template, this mean that they will be full viritualized and not taking benefit of paravirtularized unless you have deep knowledge in both Linux and freeBSD to make a custom kernel and some other scary staff that someone like me cannot do it,

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                          IT-ADMIN
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                          the key fearture of xenserver is PV and what make people to choose over other hypervisors is PV, so if i will be deprived from this powerful feature (because the VM i want to host cannot be PV easily and require deep knowledge which is not the case with me) then i have to change the hypervisor since i can't take benefit from it.

                          so what is the best hypervisor for these kind of distro like freePBX and pfsense ???

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                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            it looks like XenServer was a bad choice for me, especially for my specific need which is hosting freePBX and pfSense, none of them existed in Xenserver template, this mean that they will be full viritualized and not taking benefit of paravirtularized unless you have deep knowledge in both Linux and freeBSD to make a custom kernel and some other scary staff that someone like me cannot do it,

                            That would not make XenServer a bad choice in any way. It would, at very worst, make it an equal choice. Equal is not bad. If you went with HyperV, you'd have this limitation always.

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                              scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              the key fearture of xenserver is PV and what make people to choose over other hypervisors is PV...

                              That's an incredibly misleading statement. It's correct, but misleading. It is true that PV is the most key feature. However, XenServer is still more mature, easier to use, more powerful, more flexible and has many other unique features making it better than HyperV (in those ways.)

                              You state this as if losing one feature, because it is a key one, would make HyperV a better choice. But what benefits does HyperV have that make you feel that way with or without PV?

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                                scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                ... then i have to change the hypervisor since i can't take benefit from it.

                                This part of the statement is a logical fallacy. This should in no way be the conclusion that you reached from the statement that you made.

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                                  scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  so what is the best hypervisor for these kind of distro like freePBX and pfsense ???

                                  Xen

                                  HyperV is okay, but Xen is better when dealing with these kinds of workloads. HyperV has no benefits here.

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                                    IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    But what benefits does HyperV have that make you feel that way with or without PV?

                                    with Xen i have the issue of unknown IP in my XenCenter which is due to Xenserver tool that i'm unable to install in freePBX nor pfSense, and maybe i will have more issues caused by this disability to install Xenserver tool

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                                      IT-ADMIN
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                                      the fact that i cannot setup xenserver tool makes me feel that the XenServer will not work normally as expected, because it is not made to be hosting fully virtualized
                                      i think that full virtualization for Xen is something abnormal, isn't it ???

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                                        IT-ADMIN
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                                        also in performance screen i have this message : To view memory data for this VM, you need to install XenServer Tool

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                                          IT-ADMIN
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                                          i don't know why they didn't make PV drivers available for all type of OS and distro ???

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                                            Dashrender
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                                            The question is - who makes the PV drivers, Xen or the hardware manufacturer?

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