how to move VM from vmware workstation to hyper-V
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The question is - who makes the PV drivers, Xen or the hardware manufacturer?
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@IT-ADMIN said:
@scottalanmiller said:
But what benefits does HyperV have that make you feel that way with or without PV?
with Xen i have the issue of unknown IP in my XenCenter which is due to Xenserver tool that i'm unable to install in freePBX nor pfSense, and maybe i will have more issues caused by this disability to install Xenserver tool
Wouldn't you have that "issue" in HyperV too since it also lacks the PV drives? And is this a big issue?
Maybe you will have issues with anything. That you "might" have issues doesn't provide any logic for switching to something likely to be worse.
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@IT-ADMIN said:
the fact that i cannot setup xenserver tool makes me feel that the XenServer will not work normally as expected, because it is not made to be hosting fully virtualized
i think that full virtualization for Xen is something abnormal, isn't it ???This is just a feeling and doesn't follow any logic.
No, that you feel that full virtualization is odd for Xen only means that you are very confused. PV use is very rare. Full Virtualization is by far the most common and the only option for Windows and FreeBSD.
I feel like you are grasping at reasons to not use Xen, but solidly it seems like the best choice.
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@Dashrender said:
The question is - who makes the PV drivers, Xen or the hardware manufacturer?
Never the hardware manufacturer, they have no relationship to the situation. In some cases Xen makes them (Linux, Windows) and in others, the OS maker makes them (FreeBSD.)
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@IT-ADMIN said:
i don't know why they didn't make PV drivers available for all type of OS and distro ???
Same reason that HyperV didn't make them. Because it is a tiny use case and not worth the investment.
Xen didn't make them for FreeBSD because FreeBSD already made them for Xen platforms so it would be crazy to reinvent the wheel for no reason. As we discussed via PMs, FreeBSD has the drivers built in so you shouldn't be looking for them.
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in this case i will keep using XenServer since having no PV will not affect that much my VMs
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@scottalanmiller said:
FreeBSD has the drivers built in so you shouldn't be looking for them.
but how to activate them, because i installed the latest pfSense version and still not having the drivers (because i have under "virtualization state : XenServer Tools not installed ") and i cannot see the memory usage under performance tab (i have this notice : To view memory data for this VM, you need to install XenServer Tool)
so how can we explain this ?? -
i guess there is a trick to do to activate PV drivers in freeBSD ???
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@IT-ADMIN said:
i guess there is a trick to do to activate PV drivers in freeBSD ???
The trick is that you have to compile them in. pfSense likely decided not to do that. So you have to do it yourself with the instructions that I sent to you from the page that described how it worked.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
i guess there is a trick to do to activate PV drivers in freeBSD ???
The trick is that you have to compile them in. pfSense likely decided not to do that. So you have to do it yourself with the instructions that I sent to you from the page that described how it worked.
i don't have that level of doing such advanced tricks, so there is no easy way to achieve that right,
if i don't have an easy way i will just neglect those notices (that show xenserver tools not installed) -
and i hope the VMs will work normally without them
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@IT-ADMIN said:
i don't know why the majority of engineers that are willing to help others and share their precious knowledge are USA engineers,
@IT-ADMIN said:
i was waiting the whole day but i know that in US it was early morning, we receive support from US engineers and not other part of the world
Having just seen these and in reading your responses to other threads, you might want to think about looking for an IT Support company in your region who is on the same time-zone, who can give you the consistent support you need.
After all, we're only doing this for free
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yes i know that, i didn't say that you have to pay to get support, it is an open free community full of expert engineers that are willing to help others, i just feel sorry not to have this kind of willingness to help and share IT knowledge in other part of the world and the fact that is limited only in USA
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i know that we have here in this IT Forum IT expert from other part of the world other than USA but the majority and the most active ones are from USA (the most active one i ever seen is @scottalanmiller and he is USA citizen he is all the time helping other for free and never say : After all, we're only doing this for free)
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@IT-ADMIN said:
yes i know that, i didn't say that you have to pay to get support, it is an open free community full of expert engineers that are willing to help others, i just feel sorry not to have this kind of willingness to help and share IT knowledge in other part of the world and the fact that is limited only in USA
It would be excellent if we could get more people from different timezones.
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@nadnerB said:
It would be excellent if we could get more people from different timezones.
yes this is what i mean, it would be excellent.
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@IT-ADMIN said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
i guess there is a trick to do to activate PV drivers in freeBSD ???
The trick is that you have to compile them in. pfSense likely decided not to do that. So you have to do it yourself with the instructions that I sent to you from the page that described how it worked.
i don't have that level of doing such advanced tricks, so there is no easy way to achieve that right,
if i don't have an easy way i will just neglect those notices (that show xenserver tools not installed)No, unfortunately at this point, using FreeBSD is an expert-only product family. FreeBSD is an awesome product and lots of experts are available for it. But it is not a good choice for those that are not experts or not looking to become experts. Unlike Linux and Windows which have a pretty low threshold for expertise, FreeBSD is not this way. To do anything beyond the basics requires a lot of knowledge.
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@IT-ADMIN said:
(the most active one i ever seen is @scottalanmiller and he is USA citizen he is all the time helping other for free and never say : After all, we're only doing this for free)
But don't live in the USA
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@scottalanmiller said:
No, unfortunately at this point, using FreeBSD is an expert-only product family. FreeBSD is an awesome product and lots of experts are available for it. But it is not a good choice for those that are not experts or not looking to become experts. Unlike Linux and Windows which have a pretty low threshold for expertise, FreeBSD is not this way. To do anything beyond the basics requires a lot of knowledge.
in this case i will keep my pfsense VM without xenserver tool, i hope everything would be OK
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@IT-ADMIN said:
in this case i will keep my pfsense VM without xenserver tool, i hope everything would be OK
It only impacts performance and data reporting (and some tools like memory overcommitting.)
