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    Why We Run VMware ESXi from SD or USB

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by

      I guess I've seen compact flash in routers, etc before..

      have you seen flash storage used in other products too? and I don't mean soldered on the boards.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        I guess I've seen compact flash in routers, etc before..

        have you seen flash storage used in other products too? and I don't mean soldered on the boards.

        Essentially anything that is embedded is this. Think about any appliance product which basically includes everything networking plus the majority of telephony, storage and monitoring products. If you don't see drives that you can remove, chances are this is what it is.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          Sure. Is the flash used in those devices the same, more or less fragile than USB sticks or SD cards?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said:

            Sure. Is the flash used in those devices the same, more or less fragile than USB sticks or SD cards?

            If they are new, should be the same. The same as SD which is more stable than USB simply because of the tight connection. USB sticks and SD cards are the same thing under the hood. But the connection of SD is very solid whereas USB is more loose. I know of no embedded product using USB, but many use SD or equivalent.

            Before this they used CF which was similarly solid but slower, bigger and more costly.

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            • Reid CooperR
              Reid Cooper
              last edited by

              SD has really gotten to be a very solid technology. You almost never encounter one failing and they seem to last pretty much forever. Hard to beat them for the price.

              I wish that more things were designed to easily install to SD.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                I know of no embedded product using USB, but many use SD or equivalent.

                All of the EdgeMax routers use USB for their internal storage.

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                • nadnerBN
                  nadnerB @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by nadnerB

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @nadnerB said:

                  I guess this could be used as another argument against blade systems.

                  That would be it šŸ™‚ Is there really no SD or USB options? What blade system is that?

                  HP... interestingly enough. I don't see any options for SD on their propaganda pages.
                  USB is available ONLY via propitiatory adapter šŸ˜ž and they are easliy bumped and broken as they stick out too far from the server.
                  Ā 
                  EDIT: This post is incorrect, found the SD and USB internal slots http://mangolassi.it/topic/5392/why-we-run-vmware-esxi-from-sd-or-usb/20

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                  • ?
                    A Former User @nadnerB
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                    @nadnerB said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @nadnerB said:

                    I guess this could be used as another argument against blade systems.

                    That would be it šŸ™‚ Is there really no SD or USB options? What blade system is that?

                    HP... interestingly enough. I don't see any options for SD on their propaganda pages.
                    USB is available ONLY via propitiatory adapter šŸ˜ž and they are easliy bumped and broken as they stick out too far from the server.

                    Some Proliant Server had internal SD card options.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                      Some Proliant Server had internal SD card options.

                      All of their serious ones. He's stuck with the blades, though.

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                      • nadnerBN
                        nadnerB @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        All of their serious ones. He's stuck with the blades, though.

                        The type that DON'T stab. šŸ˜ž

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @nadnerB
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                          @nadnerB said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          All of their serious ones. He's stuck with the blades, though.

                          The type that DON'T stab. šŸ˜ž

                          The ones that aren't too sharp? šŸ˜‰

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                          • nadnerBN
                            nadnerB @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            The ones that aren't too sharp? šŸ˜‰

                            The type you give the clumsy kid.

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                            • nadnerBN
                              nadnerB
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                              Just to confirm my babblings of fury, I pulled a part one of the older blades and found BOTH an SD card slot and a USB Connector... Buried under the HDD bay.

                              Editing my previous posts now šŸ™‚

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                That's much more reasonable then. I still don't like blades, but for them to be missing something that basic and critical was pretty surprising.

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                                  Engin00b
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                                  Is Xen Server viable for SD card?

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                                  • ?
                                    A Former User @Engin00b
                                    last edited by

                                    @Engin00b said:

                                    Is Xen Server viable for SD card?

                                    XenServer supports SD Card installs. Not sure about Xen

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                                      XenServer supports SD Card installs. Not sure about Xen

                                      XS is just a packaging of Xen. So anything XS supports, Xen has to have supported. Xen is completely flexible and can be used anyway that you want, it itself doesn't have the same concept of "supported" like XS does.

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