Non-IT News Thread
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Given the price tag and problematic development track record, maybe not having to honour their purchase commitments is exactly what Turkey wanted. Seems like Turkey, not the US, won on this deal. Turkey will just buy way cheaper, proven fighters from Russia now. Whose economy got screwed by this? Russia and Turkey make money, US loses. And the F35 is partially made in Turkey, so Turkey makes a butt load on every sale, as long as they aren't the ones buying it.
Money shifted directly from the US into the hands of Turkey and Russia, ugh.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
Given the price tag and problematic development track record, maybe not having to honour their purchase commitments is exactly what Turkey wanted. Seems like Turkey, not the US, won on this deal. Turkey will just buy way cheaper, proven fighters from Russia now. Whose economy got screwed by this? Russia and Turkey make money, US loses. And the F35 is partially made in Turkey, so Turkey makes a butt load on every sale, as long as they aren't the ones buying it.
Money shifted directly from the US into the hands of Turkey and Russia, ugh.
That seems to be the way of the plan the last few years.
Why do you think Russia, Iran, Turkey were so involved in the last election?
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
Given the price tag and problematic development track record, maybe not having to honour their purchase commitments is exactly what Turkey wanted. Seems like Turkey, not the US, won on this deal. Turkey will just buy way cheaper, proven fighters from Russia now. Whose economy got screwed by this? Russia and Turkey make money, US loses. And the F35 is partially made in Turkey, so Turkey makes a butt load on every sale, as long as they aren't the ones buying it.
Money shifted directly from the US into the hands of Turkey and Russia, ugh.
They said on the Radio (NPR) yesterday that all of the parts manufactured in Turkey are also being pulled. They'll be made in Japan and the US if I remember correctly.
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@bnrstnr said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
Given the price tag and problematic development track record, maybe not having to honour their purchase commitments is exactly what Turkey wanted. Seems like Turkey, not the US, won on this deal. Turkey will just buy way cheaper, proven fighters from Russia now. Whose economy got screwed by this? Russia and Turkey make money, US loses. And the F35 is partially made in Turkey, so Turkey makes a butt load on every sale, as long as they aren't the ones buying it.
Money shifted directly from the US into the hands of Turkey and Russia, ugh.
They said on the Radio (NPR) yesterday that all of the parts manufactured in Turkey are also being pulled. They'll be made in Japan and the US if I remember correctly.
That might be true (and I expect this) for the future. But for now, those parts in existing planes are all from Turkey and already paid for. And the US and Japan don't have the production for them yet, so Turkey will most likely be the only supplier for at least several months, if not many years.
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Both the US and Japan are at across the board production capacity. There isn't enough employment in either country for additional manufacturing loads. Especially not military grade, skilled manufacturing. It'll be very hard for either to quickly absorb a major bit of work from Turkey.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
Both the US and Japan are at across the board production capacity. There isn't enough employment in either country for additional manufacturing loads. Especially not military grade, skilled manufacturing. It'll be very hard for either to quickly absorb a major bit of work from Turkey.
By 2020, one year after the Fort Worth plant hits its full 17-jet-per-month stride, there will be more than 600 F-35s, including nearly 180 sent to U.S. allies.https://www.defenseone.com/business/2016/05/f-35-production-set-quadruple-massive-factory-retools/128120/If these numbers are true (17 jets per month) I don't think they'll have any problems finding a supplier. The tooling is likely already owned by Lockheed, if so they'll just relocate it.
Edit: Looks like there is another assembly plant in Italy, but their production is even lower.
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@bnrstnr said in Non-IT News Thread:
Edit: Looks like there is another assembly plant in Italy, but their production is even lower.
Italy has available employment capacity, lots of it. So if they aren't spinning that up for more volume because they can't do it, way less chance for the US to do it.
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@bnrstnr said in Non-IT News Thread:
The tooling is likely already owned by Lockheed, if so they'll just relocate it.
Never worked for Lockheed, I see
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@bnrstnr said in Non-IT News Thread:
The tooling is likely already owned by Lockheed, if so they'll just relocate it.
Never worked for Lockheed, I see
lol after I typed it, I'm thinking "yeah, right.. defense contractors"
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@bnrstnr said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@bnrstnr said in Non-IT News Thread:
The tooling is likely already owned by Lockheed, if so they'll just relocate it.
Never worked for Lockheed, I see
lol after I typed it, I'm thinking "yeah, right.. defense contractors"
I worked there a little, never again. Total corruption and incompetence. Very evil company raping the American economy.
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BBC News - Hong Kong protests: Armed mob storms Yuen Long station
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@bnrstnr said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@bnrstnr said in Non-IT News Thread:
The tooling is likely already owned by Lockheed, if so they'll just relocate it.
Never worked for Lockheed, I see
lol after I typed it, I'm thinking "yeah, right.. defense contractors"
I worked there a little, never again. Total corruption and incompetence. Very evil company raping the American economy.
Speak of the devil... I had kind of forgotten about it, but a couple months ago they were recruiting a friend for an engineering job and they flew his family out to California and put them up in a hotel for 3 days. After the interviews they gave him an offer that was like 10% less than what they originally offered. We just found out over the weekend that they contacted him trying to collect like $3000 for expenses from his in person interview... wtf.
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Hong Kong protests: Armed mob violence leaves city in shock
Hong Kong has been left in shock after a night of violence on Sunday, which saw dozens of masked men storm a train station.
The men - dressed in white shirts and suspected to be triad gangsters - assaulted pro-democracy protesters and passers-by in the Yuen Long area.
This is the first time this kind of violence has been seen in the ongoing anti-extradition demonstrations.
Several lawmakers questioned why police were slow to arrive at the scene.
Footage posted on social media showed dozens of men attacking people with wooden rods and metal sticks inside the station.
Forty-five people were injured, with one person in critical condition. -
French Minerve submarine is found after disappearing in 1968
A French submarine that has been missing for more than 50 years has been located by a search team.
French Defence Minister Florence Parly tweeted the announcement on Monday, describing the discovery as a "relief and technical feat".
Fifty-two sailors were on board the Minerve when it vanished near the port of Toulon, on the French south coast, in January 1968.
Previous efforts to find the submarine were all unsuccessful. -
Iran says it arrested CIA spies and sentenced some to death
Iran says it has arrested 17 spies who it says were working for the CIA, and sentenced some of them to death.
The intelligence ministry said the suspects had been collecting information in the nuclear, military and other sectors.
US President Donald Trump has dismissed the Iranian allegations, saying they are "totally false".
Washington and Tehran are at loggerheads over Iran's nuclear programme and tensions have grown. -
https://www.creditcards.com/credit-card-news/credit-card-virtual-account-numbers.php
Cary Whaley, first vice president of payments and technology policy at the Independent Community Bankers of America, says that the rise of tokenization, which is what Apple Pay, Samsung Pay and other digital wallets use, may ultimately make virtual account numbers obsolete.
it's also what Chip AND PIN was supposed to be - or so I thought... but of course the lazy Americans dropped the PIN part, so tokenization was lost.
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Skunk Works' Exotic Fusion Reactor Program Moves Forward With Larger, More Powerful Design
Lockheed Martin's Skunk Works is building a new, more capable test reactor as it continues to move ahead with its ambitious Compact Fusion Reactor program, or CFR. Despite slower than expected progress, the company remains confident the project can produce practical results, which would completely transform how power gets generated for both military and civilian purposes.
This is some sexy as shit..
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R.I.P Art "Poppa Funk" Neville, founding member of the Meters (one of the funkiest bands ever) and a New Orleans music legend.
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Technology giants' power to be probed in US
The US Justice Department has announced an investigation into leading online platforms, examining whether they are unfairly restricting competition.
The DoJ did not name any firms, but companies such as Facebook, Google, Amazon and Apple are likely to be scrutinised in the wide-ranging probe.
It was sparked by "widespread concerns" about "search, social media, and some retail services online," the DoJ said.
It marks the latest scrutiny of tech firms' power over the US economy.
The DoJ has sweeping powers to investigate firms it suspects of breaching competition laws, and it can even break up companies that it thinks are too dominant.
The US Federal Trade Commission is already looking into similar concerns, while there are also investigations taking place in the European Union. -
Russia and South Korea spar over airspace 'intrusion'
Russia has strongly denied ever apologising for violating South Korean airspace, as the fall-out from an incident involving warplanes from four countries continues.
South Korea's presidential office earlier said a Russian official had expressed "deep regret" for Tuesday's aerial intrusion.
It says a Russian aircraft twice violated its territorial airspace during a joint exercise with China.
But Moscow denies any intrusion.
"We have seen statements in the South Korean media quoting words allegedly said by our acting military attaché," a spokesman for Russia's embassy in South Korea said, according to Interfax news agency.
"We have paid attention to these statements. In this connection we can speak for ourselves that there is a lot in them which does not correspond to reality."
South Korean jets fired nearly 400 warning shots and 20 flares on Tuesday near the Russian surveillance plane that both it and Japan said flew near disputed islands in the Sea of Japan, also known as the East Sea, that the two countries claim.
