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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      'Mass shooting' reported at small town church in Texas
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41880511

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller

        No not in Texas...

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
          last edited by

          @tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @scottalanmiller

          No not in Texas...

          Yup, in San Antonio.

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          • mlnewsM
            mlnews
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            Thank goodness they took her license. It's scary that she's been allowed to be a doctor for so long!

            https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/84-year-old-doctor-wants-her-license-back-after-spat-over-computer-skills/

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            • coliverC
              coliver @mlnews
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              @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

              Thank goodness they took her license. It's scary that she's been allowed to be a doctor for so long!

              https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/84-year-old-doctor-wants-her-license-back-after-spat-over-computer-skills/

              This is just insane!

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @coliver
                last edited by

                @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                Thank goodness they took her license. It's scary that she's been allowed to be a doctor for so long!

                https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/84-year-old-doctor-wants-her-license-back-after-spat-over-computer-skills/

                This is just insane!

                The doctor is basically saying that she shouldn't need to be literate to be a doctor.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  Thank goodness they took her license. It's scary that she's been allowed to be a doctor for so long!

                  https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/84-year-old-doctor-wants-her-license-back-after-spat-over-computer-skills/

                  This is just insane!

                  The doctor is basically saying that she shouldn't need to be literate to be a doctor.

                  That is not at all what it says.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by Dashrender

                    “two file cabinets in a tiny waiting room"

                    say what? your patient records are in the waiting room?

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      “two file cabinets in a tiny waiting room"

                      say what? your patient records are in the waiting room?

                      There is a lot of wtf in that article.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        Thank goodness they took her license. It's scary that she's been allowed to be a doctor for so long!

                        https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/84-year-old-doctor-wants-her-license-back-after-spat-over-computer-skills/

                        This is just insane!

                        The doctor is basically saying that she shouldn't need to be literate to be a doctor.

                        “two file cabinets in a tiny waiting room"

                        say what? your patient records are in the waiting room?

                        That part is insane. Writing scripts without checking against existing scripts in a database is stupid.

                        But non of it means illiterate.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @coliver
                          last edited by

                          @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          “two file cabinets in a tiny waiting room"

                          say what? your patient records are in the waiting room?

                          There is a lot of wtf in that article.

                          Yup!

                          How does she stay current with current medical practices and not have computers?

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            “two file cabinets in a tiny waiting room"

                            say what? your patient records are in the waiting room?

                            There is a lot of wtf in that article.

                            Yup!

                            How does she stay current with current medical practices and not have computers?

                            She doesn't, and shouldn't be practicing. That much is certain.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              “two file cabinets in a tiny waiting room"

                              say what? your patient records are in the waiting room?

                              There is a lot of wtf in that article.

                              Yup!

                              How does she stay current with current medical practices and not have computers?

                              She doesn't, and shouldn't be practicing. That much is certain.

                              This was my point.

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                              • nadnerBN
                                nadnerB @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                Thank goodness they took her license. It's scary that she's been allowed to be a doctor for so long!

                                https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/84-year-old-doctor-wants-her-license-back-after-spat-over-computer-skills/

                                This is just insane!

                                The doctor is basically saying that she shouldn't need to be literate to be a doctor.

                                “two file cabinets in a tiny waiting room"

                                say what? your patient records are in the waiting room?

                                That part is insane. Writing scripts without checking against existing scripts in a database is stupid.

                                But non of it means illiterate.

                                Could it be "computer illiterate"? If so, it needs to be stated as such, and not shortened to simply "illiterate".

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @nadnerB
                                  last edited by

                                  @nadnerb said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  Thank goodness they took her license. It's scary that she's been allowed to be a doctor for so long!

                                  https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/84-year-old-doctor-wants-her-license-back-after-spat-over-computer-skills/

                                  This is just insane!

                                  The doctor is basically saying that she shouldn't need to be literate to be a doctor.

                                  “two file cabinets in a tiny waiting room"

                                  say what? your patient records are in the waiting room?

                                  That part is insane. Writing scripts without checking against existing scripts in a database is stupid.

                                  But non of it means illiterate.

                                  Could it be "computer illiterate"? If so, it needs to be stated as such, and not shortened to simply "illiterate".

                                  One and the same. Computer literacy is a basic part of literacy. Just like reading literacy and writing literacy are part of basic literacy today.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    literacy
                                    [lit-er-uh-see]

                                    noun
                                    1.
                                    the quality or state of being literate, especially the ability to read and write.
                                    2.
                                    possession of education:
                                    to question someone's literacy.
                                    3.
                                    a person's knowledge of a particular subject or field: to acquire computer literacy;
                                    improving your financial literacy.

                                    In the case of the doctor, it is a lack of education and lack of knowledge in their field. Both 2 & 3 definitions, and in some ways, in 1 as well.

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                                    • nadnerBN
                                      nadnerB
                                      last edited by

                                      Yes, it can rightfully be used. However, context is critical. You know how people naturally assume things?

                                      In this instance, the significant majority of people will naturally gravitate to the meaning of literacy being reading and writing as that is seen as normal literacy. Computer literacy is seen as specifically that and having little to no relation to reading writing literacy (how bazaar) even though the meaning is clearly there and completely contextual.

                                      As a global society, we are not at the stage where computer literacy, and reading & writing literacy are accepted one and the same by the significant majority of people. As in, someone is accepted as (/marked/labelled/called) illiterate because they can't use a computer even though they can read and write.

                                      When you make a statement that hinges on a definition of a word that is correct, yet not normally associated with it/used, you have to be specific.

                                      Unlike words such as 'set' or 'run' which usually make sense depending on the sentence, 'literate' requires context as to what form of literacy you are referring if not meaning a persons reading & writing ability.

                                      For example:
                                      Susan couldn't use a computer because she is illiterate.
                                      While it makes sense that Susan is computer illiterate and can't use the computer for that reason, it will be read as meaning:
                                      "Susan can't use a computer because she can't read or write (illiterate)."

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @nadnerB
                                        last edited by

                                        @nadnerb said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        Yes, it can rightfully be used. However, context is critical. You know how people naturally assume things?

                                        The inability of people to understand the language is of no concern. What I said was correct in spirit and in language. She is lacking in literacy, plain and simple.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @nadnerB
                                          last edited by

                                          @nadnerb said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          In this instance, the significant majority of people will naturally gravitate to the meaning of literacy being reading and writing as that is seen as normal literacy.

                                          I would argue that believing so is a literacy problem - an inability to comprehend the language fully. Even in the most traditional or strict use of literate, that is covered.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @nadnerB
                                            last edited by

                                            @nadnerb said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            Computer literacy is seen as specifically that and having little to no relation to reading writing literacy (how bazaar) even though the meaning is clearly there and completely contextual.

                                            That it is seen that way or that literacy is misunderstood is the problem of the person that doesn't understand it. We can't change our use of the language to accomodate the illiterate. How would that work?

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