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Ditto. But it still got stolen. I tried to use Google Pay and it was rejected, so I switched to credit card and used mine.
The local bank came up good for me though. I had the $$ back in my account a day later.
Ug bad website stealing cc info
Actually, it was a gas station here in town. Several other folks I know had something similar happen over a few days, so let's just say I won't be going back there, lol.
How do you use Google pay at a gas station? I haven’t seen that before
If your phone supports NFC, you can use Google Pay as long as the card reader shows it. Unlock your phone and hold it up to the screen where indicated. As long as you have a credit card registered with Google Pay, you're good.
OK, just like Apple pay.. yeah - I thought about it after I replied...
did your card run through a typical card reader? Assuming so - that place has been owned like the target hack.
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Ditto. But it still got stolen. I tried to use Google Pay and it was rejected, so I switched to credit card and used mine.
The local bank came up good for me though. I had the $$ back in my account a day later.
Ug bad website stealing cc info
Actually, it was a gas station here in town. Several other folks I know had something similar happen over a few days, so let's just say I won't be going back there, lol.
How do you use Google pay at a gas station? I haven’t seen that before
If your phone supports NFC, you can use Google Pay as long as the card reader shows it. Unlock your phone and hold it up to the screen where indicated. As long as you have a credit card registered with Google Pay, you're good.
OK, just like Apple pay.. yeah - I thought about it after I replied...
did your card run through a typical card reader? Assuming so - that place has been owned like the target hack.
Yeah, card went fine. That's exactly why I think they're the ones that got owned.
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@dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
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Ditto. But it still got stolen. I tried to use Google Pay and it was rejected, so I switched to credit card and used mine.
The local bank came up good for me though. I had the $$ back in my account a day later.
Ug bad website stealing cc info
Actually, it was a gas station here in town. Several other folks I know had something similar happen over a few days, so let's just say I won't be going back there, lol.
Someone has a skimmer on the pump you used
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Ditto. But it still got stolen. I tried to use Google Pay and it was rejected, so I switched to credit card and used mine.
The local bank came up good for me though. I had the $$ back in my account a day later.
Ug bad website stealing cc info
Actually, it was a gas station here in town. Several other folks I know had something similar happen over a few days, so let's just say I won't be going back there, lol.
Someone has a skimmer on the pump you used
Except it was the inside card machine in this case, not the pump.
I just stopped in for a snack, lol.
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@dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
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@dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
Ditto. But it still got stolen. I tried to use Google Pay and it was rejected, so I switched to credit card and used mine.
The local bank came up good for me though. I had the $$ back in my account a day later.
Ug bad website stealing cc info
Actually, it was a gas station here in town. Several other folks I know had something similar happen over a few days, so let's just say I won't be going back there, lol.
Someone has a skimmer on the pump you used
Except it was the inside card machine in this case, not the pump.
I just stopped in for a snack, lol.
Yuck
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@dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
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Ditto. But it still got stolen. I tried to use Google Pay and it was rejected, so I switched to credit card and used mine.
The local bank came up good for me though. I had the $$ back in my account a day later.
Ug bad website stealing cc info
Actually, it was a gas station here in town. Several other folks I know had something similar happen over a few days, so let's just say I won't be going back there, lol.
Someone has a skimmer on the pump you used
Except it was the inside card machine in this case, not the pump.
I just stopped in for a snack, lol.
Sounds like an inside job.
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@dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
Ditto. But it still got stolen. I tried to use Google Pay and it was rejected, so I switched to credit card and used mine.
The local bank came up good for me though. I had the $$ back in my account a day later.
Ug bad website stealing cc info
Actually, it was a gas station here in town. Several other folks I know had something similar happen over a few days, so let's just say I won't be going back there, lol.
Someone has a skimmer on the pump you used
Except it was the inside card machine in this case, not the pump.
I just stopped in for a snack, lol.
Sounds like an inside job.
I... handn't thought about that. It very well could be.
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Ditto. But it still got stolen. I tried to use Google Pay and it was rejected, so I switched to credit card and used mine.
The local bank came up good for me though. I had the $$ back in my account a day later.
Ug bad website stealing cc info
Actually, it was a gas station here in town. Several other folks I know had something similar happen over a few days, so let's just say I won't be going back there, lol.
Someone has a skimmer on the pump you used
Except it was the inside card machine in this case, not the pump.
I just stopped in for a snack, lol.
Sounds like an inside job.
I... handn't thought about that. It very well could be.
Did you use the magnetic stripe on your card?
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@dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
Ditto. But it still got stolen. I tried to use Google Pay and it was rejected, so I switched to credit card and used mine.
The local bank came up good for me though. I had the $$ back in my account a day later.
Ug bad website stealing cc info
Actually, it was a gas station here in town. Several other folks I know had something similar happen over a few days, so let's just say I won't be going back there, lol.
Someone has a skimmer on the pump you used
Except it was the inside card machine in this case, not the pump.
I just stopped in for a snack, lol.
Sounds like an inside job.
I... handn't thought about that. It very well could be.
Did you use the magnetic stripe on your card?
In this type of situation I only see the cashier as potentially being guilty if he was able to swipe the card without you seeing.
What at the changes he could attach a skimmer on an in store reader and you not notice? Unless they make them super tiny nowdays...
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Ditto. But it still got stolen. I tried to use Google Pay and it was rejected, so I switched to credit card and used mine.
The local bank came up good for me though. I had the $$ back in my account a day later.
Ug bad website stealing cc info
Actually, it was a gas station here in town. Several other folks I know had something similar happen over a few days, so let's just say I won't be going back there, lol.
Someone has a skimmer on the pump you used
Except it was the inside card machine in this case, not the pump.
I just stopped in for a snack, lol.
Sounds like an inside job.
I... handn't thought about that. It very well could be.
Did you use the magnetic stripe on your card?
In this type of situation I only see the cashier as potentially being guilty if he was able to swipe the card without you seeing.
What at the changes he could attach a skimmer on an in store reader and you not notice? Unless they make them super tiny nowdays...
They make them to fit inside the card slot of a gas pump, I guarantee they can make a shell for card readers inside a gas station that look legit.
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Ditto. But it still got stolen. I tried to use Google Pay and it was rejected, so I switched to credit card and used mine.
The local bank came up good for me though. I had the $$ back in my account a day later.
Ug bad website stealing cc info
Actually, it was a gas station here in town. Several other folks I know had something similar happen over a few days, so let's just say I won't be going back there, lol.
Someone has a skimmer on the pump you used
Except it was the inside card machine in this case, not the pump.
I just stopped in for a snack, lol.
Sounds like an inside job.
I... handn't thought about that. It very well could be.
Did you use the magnetic stripe on your card?
In this type of situation I only see the cashier as potentially being guilty if he was able to swipe the card without you seeing.
What at the changes he could attach a skimmer on an in store reader and you not notice? Unless they make them super tiny nowdays...
Krebs on Security had a series of articles on inside jobs IIRC.
There's plenty of inside jobs articles out there.
A micro-camera pointed at the PIN pad with the skimmer in the slot.
Manufacturers are getting better at protecting the slot, but no system is foolproof when someone can open the cover and plant the slider internally.
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@dashrender said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
What at the changes he could attach a skimmer on an in store reader and you not notice? Unless they make them super tiny nowdays...
Skimmer fit inside anything. They put them inside ATMs. If they can put them there, anything in a store is way easier.
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What at the changes he could attach a skimmer on an in store reader and you not notice? Unless they make them super tiny nowdays...
Skimmer fit inside anything. They put them inside ATMs. If they can put them there, anything in a store is way easier.
Maybe I'm really behind - the only skimmers I've heard about inside the ATMs actually go between the cables...
So sure, I guess they could do that on the ones in the store as well.
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What at the changes he could attach a skimmer on an in store reader and you not notice? Unless they make them super tiny nowdays...
Skimmer fit inside anything. They put them inside ATMs. If they can put them there, anything in a store is way easier.
Krebs found the slot style skimmers in 2014! https://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/08/stealthy-razor-thin-atm-insert-skimmers/
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https://engineering.fb.com/2021/10/05/networking-traffic/outage-details/
Yeah, "Oh the humanity!".
The human person is not perfect.
The imperfect is not capable of building a perfect system.
Therefore, nothing is perfect.
Or something like that.
How often does that bubble need to get burst before folks take notice that there is nothing foolproof out there?
Cloud: Your sh#t on someone else's sh#t and if that sh#t gets flushed youzza EFFED.
EDIT: Asterisks are code.
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Ditto. But it still got stolen. I tried to use Google Pay and it was rejected, so I switched to credit card and used mine.
The local bank came up good for me though. I had the $$ back in my account a day later.
Ug bad website stealing cc info
Actually, it was a gas station here in town. Several other folks I know had something similar happen over a few days, so let's just say I won't be going back there, lol.
Someone has a skimmer on the pump you used
Except it was the inside card machine in this case, not the pump.
I just stopped in for a snack, lol.
Sounds like an inside job.
I... handn't thought about that. It very well could be.
Did you use the magnetic stripe on your card?
No, I used the chip reader there.
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@dashrender said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
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@dashrender said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
Ditto. But it still got stolen. I tried to use Google Pay and it was rejected, so I switched to credit card and used mine.
The local bank came up good for me though. I had the $$ back in my account a day later.
Ug bad website stealing cc info
Actually, it was a gas station here in town. Several other folks I know had something similar happen over a few days, so let's just say I won't be going back there, lol.
Someone has a skimmer on the pump you used
Except it was the inside card machine in this case, not the pump.
I just stopped in for a snack, lol.
Sounds like an inside job.
I... handn't thought about that. It very well could be.
Did you use the magnetic stripe on your card?
In this type of situation I only see the cashier as potentially being guilty if he was able to swipe the card without you seeing.
What at the changes he could attach a skimmer on an in store reader and you not notice? Unless they make them super tiny nowdays...
Or the firmware on the card reader got hacked. This is what I'm suspecting because I've stopped at that place several times over the last 5 or 6 years.
