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A big presumption with self driving cars is that they simply wouldn't violate the law. So it's unlikely that you would have a law breaking issue. It's more likely that you would have a mechanical or software failure that causes an accident.
So today, if you're driving down the street, and your tire comes off and causes you to cause an accident, then you are of course at fault.
But what if the software is what's at fault? Let's take the recent Tesla that drove under a semi-truck. The software couldn't tell the difference between the truck and the sky, so it thought nothing was there.
Now - discounting that it's probably not legal that the driver was sleeping (again, let's just completely remove this, and assume it's a time when this IS legal) - who's fault is this? Is it the owner's or Tesla's?
Good question. IF the owner was awake and aware of his surroundings, would he be able override Autopilot to take over control if he saw that the Tesla was about to make a bad decision?
Today? yes he would.
Because it is not a self driving car, though.
It is self driving, just not fully autonomous. That's more when the steering wheel is removed.
That's not self driving. It's driving assist. Not the same thing. Any car will keep going if you take your hands off of the wheel, but they don't fully drive themselves.
Driving assist, in the same category as cruise control. But we've had cruise control for the last 20 years with no problems (except for a few Darwin-award recipients). The driver is still aware and controlling the car, but has just told the car at what speed to keep driving at. Same goes from the standard to automatic transmission. We don't have to tell the car what gear to drive in, it does it automatically for us based on throttle and RPM of the engine.
At what point are we going from driver-assisted to fully autonomous? When the driver seat is the same as the passenger seat?
Cruise control can't stop a car, can't change lanes - driver assist as it's called can and does.
If the programming had been able to tell that the semi-truck was a truck and not part of the sky, it likely would have stopped the car. These types of things make it very different from cruise control.But you still see the evolution of the car. Its more common for cars to parallel park, to monitor lanes and blind spots for you, etc.
OK parallel parking is autonomous driving, can you still interfere? probably, grab the wheel, the car will likely stop. But blind spot sensors in most cars today do nothing but turn on an audible tone to alert the driver.
In the case of the Telsa, the blind spot sensors (not really though, just sensors in general) will change lanes when in driving assist mode (so I understand, and will accept a correction if my understanding is false).
Yes, you are still in charge and can still take over.
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@dashrender said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
In the case of the Telsa, the blind spot sensors (not really though, just sensors in general) will change lanes when in driving assist mode (so I understand, and will accept a correction if my understanding is false).
If you lose any control because of the assist, it is illegal on the road today. The driver must remain the driver.
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does Youtube now allow offline viewing?
Always has.
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Scott is doing to many vids to keep up lol need an app to auto download new stuff to my phone for offline viewing........Just don't have time to look at the moment ..... job for next week.
I've not seen one of those. Let us know what you find. I've seen them for desktop, but not for phone.
What desktop app?
I use a browser plugin, or did. It's been a while.
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does Youtube now allow offline viewing?
Always has.
uh, are you saying since day one? yeah I don't think so. Sure there were/are plug ins that allow you to rip out the video stream, but don't think Youtube itself supported this. Though a day one link will definitely prove me wrong.
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This has been on the news in San Francisco. Wonder what ever came of it.
http://www.businessinsider.com/momentum-machines-is-hiring-2016-6
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@dashrender said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
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does Youtube now allow offline viewing?
Always has.
uh, are you saying since day one? yeah I don't think so. Sure there were/are plug ins that allow you to rip out the video stream, but don't think Youtube itself supported this. Though a day one link will definitely prove me wrong.
What does "supports it" mean? YouTube downloads a video, if your player supports saving it, it saves. Proxies have always been able to cache it. YouTube doesn't provide the tools, but no one does for normal downloads. But we don't call it unsupported.
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This has been on the news in San Francisco. Wonder what ever came of it.
http://www.businessinsider.com/momentum-machines-is-hiring-2016-6
I proposed that in the mid-1990s. It was ready to happen back then!
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@dashrender said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
does Youtube now allow offline viewing?
A browser extension called "video download helper" lets you view things offline because it downloads them locally.
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This fits well with today's conversation: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/13/robot_surgeons_face_same_obstacles_as_selfdriving_cars/
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This fits well with today's conversation: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/13/robot_surgeons_face_same_obstacles_as_selfdriving_cars/
Robot surgeons have problems with bad drivers and oblivious pedestrians?
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Both of those got the same reaction from me. "That's it?"
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Which one is the CentOS VM?The one in need of a reboot, just to check that everything's still good?
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Which one is the CentOS VM?The one in need of a reboot, just to check that everything's still good?
It's my wiki. Run
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