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    • hobbit666H
      hobbit666
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      Do I try KVM?
      Or go straight to what I know and XenServer?

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      • hobbit666H
        hobbit666
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        Am I right in thinking KVM is not a type 1 hypervisor as in install on the host from a iso?
        You need a base Linux OS like Ubuntu then install KVM.

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        • NerdyDadN
          NerdyDad @hobbit666
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          @hobbit666 KVM is already built in to the fedora-branch of distros. Not sure about Ubuntu, but I would imagine so. Just have to set it up.I would also imagine that the Linux environment that you set up for initial installation would be considered Dom0.

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          • coliverC
            coliver @hobbit666
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            @hobbit666 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

            Am I right in thinking KVM is not a type 1 hypervisor as in install on the host from a iso?
            You need a base Linux OS like Ubuntu then install KVM.

            Why would the way you install it not make it a type 1? When you install it on a Linux distribution the distribution becomes a VM on top of KVM. It's similar, but different, to how Xen and Hyper-V work.

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            • hobbit666H
              hobbit666 @coliver
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              @coliver said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

              Why would the way you install it not make it a type 1? When you install it on a Linux distribution the distribution becomes a VM on top of KVM. It's similar, but different, to how Xen and Hyper-V work.

              That's why I was asking to me installing a OS then the hypervisor doesn't sound like Type1 to me, hence asking.
              If it then changes the way the machine runs then yes it might be a type1 🙂 my only exposer to KVM is seeing it mentioned 🙂

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              • coliverC
                coliver @hobbit666
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                @hobbit666 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                @coliver said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                Why would the way you install it not make it a type 1? When you install it on a Linux distribution the distribution becomes a VM on top of KVM. It's similar, but different, to how Xen and Hyper-V work.

                That's why I was asking to me installing a OS then the hypervisor doesn't sound like Type1 to me, hence asking.
                If it then changes the way the machine runs then yes it might be a type1 🙂 my only exposer to KVM is seeing it mentioned 🙂

                Ok, KVM is a type 1 hypervisor.

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                • black3dynamiteB
                  black3dynamite @hobbit666
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                  @hobbit666 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                  This is why I don't use HyperV
                  Setup new server gave it a name and IP connected to it via HperV Manager on Windows 10 Pro machine:-
                  0_1499683557064_hyperv.png

                  Tried 5nine when creating a switch:-
                  0_1499683684016_hyperv.png

                  If you are connecting to Hyper-V in a workgroup environment, take a look at this link
                  https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/virtualization/hyper-v/manage/remotely-manage-hyper-v-hosts

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                  • wirestyle22W
                    wirestyle22 @hobbit666
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                    @hobbit666 Domain joined or workgroup?

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                    • black3dynamiteB
                      black3dynamite @hobbit666
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                      @hobbit666 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                      Am I right in thinking KVM is not a type 1 hypervisor as in install on the host from a iso?
                      You need a base Linux OS like Ubuntu then install KVM.

                      Installing KVM on Fedora
                      https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_virtualization

                      Installing KVM on Ubuntu
                      https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @hobbit666
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                        @hobbit666 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                        Am I right in thinking KVM is not a type 1 hypervisor as in install on the host from a iso?
                        You need a base Linux OS like Ubuntu then install KVM.

                        The way I understand it (and please correct me if I'm wrong) is that KVM is a kernal module that turns Linux into a type-1 hypervisor. It looks confusing because the distro you installed is still fully functional.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver
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                          I think that KVM is considered a Type-0 hypervisor... but it's more closely related to Type-1 then it is Type-2.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @coliver
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                            @coliver said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                            I think that KVM is considered a Type-0 hypervisor... but it's more closely related to Type-1 then it is Type-2.

                            Type 0 isn't exactly a real thing. It's a informal type of type 1.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                              last edited by

                              @wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                              @hobbit666 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                              Am I right in thinking KVM is not a type 1 hypervisor as in install on the host from a iso?
                              You need a base Linux OS like Ubuntu then install KVM.

                              The way I understand it (and please correct me if I'm wrong) is that KVM is a kernal module that turns Linux into a type-1 hypervisor. It looks confusing because the distro you installed is still fully functional.

                              That's basically correct. Linux itself is the hypervisor.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                @coliver said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                I think that KVM is considered a Type-0 hypervisor... but it's more closely related to Type-1 then it is Type-2.

                                Type 0 isn't exactly a real thing. It's a informal type of type 1.

                                Ah that makes sense. I had never learned about Type 0 until I had played with KVM.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @hobbit666
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                                  @hobbit666 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                  Am I right in thinking KVM is not a type 1 hypervisor as in install on the host from a iso?
                                  You need a base Linux OS like Ubuntu then install KVM.

                                  That's how Xen and Hyper-V install too.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @coliver
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                                    @coliver said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                    @coliver said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                    I think that KVM is considered a Type-0 hypervisor... but it's more closely related to Type-1 then it is Type-2.

                                    Type 0 isn't exactly a real thing. It's a informal type of type 1.

                                    Ah that makes sense. I had never learned about Type 0 until I had played with KVM.

                                    It's marketing. And it has changed since it isn't a real definition. VMware always wants ESXi to be the only type 0 so the definition is a moving one.

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22
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                                      /root is a directory for the root user and / is the root directory, but if you create a new user it's put under /home/username. Is this because the home directory can be put on a different parition and if it failed to mount would screw you?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                                        @wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                        /root is a directory for the root user and / is the root directory, but if you create a new user it's put under /home/username. Is this because the home directory can be put on a different parition and if it failed to mount would screw you?

                                        Yup

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                                        • wirestyle22W
                                          wirestyle22
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                                          Double crit roll to save two of us is the only reason our characters made it out alive in D&D tonight. off to an insane start

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @wirestyle22
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                                            @wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                            Double crit roll to save two of us is the only reason our characters made it out alive in D&D tonight. off to an insane start

                                            Relevant: https://obelisk.daerma.com/topic/121/storm-king-s-thunder

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